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(38,506 posts)Isoldeblue
(1,135 posts)then the show would be X-rated.....
I wish....
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(32,723 posts)The weather.
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(32,723 posts).....damn shame they were plastic....
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(26,624 posts)Diclotican
(5,095 posts)midnight
My grandmother did that - talked to her plants - both inside and outside the house - and had some of the best plants in the whole county - so I guess it might be true to a level, that plants at least can communicate some...
And why not should not plants be able to communicate - after all, they have been there for millions of years - and probably have learned some on the road about what works, and what not works
Diclotican
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Plant cells, animal cells, atoms and molecules, have energies that bind them together or allow them to split in order to reproduce.
We have many methods to alter physical matter, weapons that are sound and light based, which include heat but are weapons, not just percussive weapons.
It has to do with one's view of how the world works and an open mind, but humans love to fight about all of it. Hope things are well for you since the days are getting longer there, Diclotican.
Diclotican
(5,095 posts)freshwest
True - the word is a far more complex space than we know I guess.... Life exist on many levels - even our own existence is far from fully known and philosophers have for thousands of years wondered about what make us tick.. And I guess it exist levels of existence that is well advanced for plants to.. And it is well known that even plants, and "lower level of animals" have form of "wars" going on, who they are virtually fighting to the brink of death. Plant life is anything than peacefully if you have the time to look at it - it is a constant battle for the best space to exist - and no trick in the book is not used to survive..
Yeah - things are definitely coming along now - the days is lighter - longer and warmer - who I would say is good for my bones .. But it is still a lot of snow here - and April can still by a mount who could surprise us all, with some snow before it finally starting to come to spring..
Diclotican
freshwest
(53,661 posts)IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)... recorded what resembles screams from plants? Can't remember where I saw/heard/read about it a number of years ago.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)They have a 'plan' in their growth, but are so slow compared to the animal kingdom, it's not recognized. In my horticulture major we studied botany, microbiology, chemistry, entomology, etc., we learned about how plants send bitter fluids to make insects stop eating and various other ways to survive.
The attraction to light and seeking darkness, moisture, minerals, etc. are what in animals is called instinct and reflexes. It's not really a match, but on some level they are affected by many things we aren't.
The entire process of photosynthesis, taking of photons of light energy to convert, is just one of the wonders of nature I never tire of. If animals were capable of this function, we'd be near to self-sufficiency instead of chasing the next meal so hard.
Just a few thoughts. I'm a tree hugger and not ashamed to say so:
IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)When I was just a little thing, I used to climb high up in trees and sit for hours watching the world. And hiding in some cases! Nobody could see me up there, and if they suspected where I was, they weren't always willing to climb up after me to find out.
One of my favorite books - sorry I can't remember the author - was just called 'Walking'. It told about a year in the life of a scientist hiker and all the wonders he saw along the route. I always tried to observe nature that way. One day I was even blessed to see a tiny field mouse sitting at the entrance to its burrow in the early dawn light, which shone through its translucent ears and made them sparkle like diamonds.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)When I used to go up mountains, I 'd also get a close up looks at wildlife. Here's a good review on that book, The Secret Life of Plants:
http://www.harmonyforest.org/books/titles/secretlifeofplants/about.htm
Give it a read, it is full of that wonder you describe. Tree hugging has a history before environmentalists gave it a different meaning. Some people in the past hugged trees for health. Energy going from the ground up in trees is being experimented with to power electronics, as was covered in an OP at DU.
IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)As I've told people all along, though I didn't know about any experiments to power electronics. Any chance you've got a link to that OP? I just knew I felt hugged BY trees, safely hidden and cradled in their branches like a babe in its mother's arms. And all my life I've been mad about planting as many of them as possible. On 9/11 I went out and bought 11 new trees because I couldn't afford 2K and I planted them all in a row, then faced east and shook my fist in defiance of hate and religious bigotry. It was the only way I could cope. Ever since then I've made sure to plant as much on the anniversaries as possible.
So that comprises much of my notion of vengeance: plant more trees. I actually named my son John, largely in honor of Johnny Appleseed.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)In today's world of high-tech portable gadgets, iPods and cell phones, we've become dependent upon readily accessible electric outlets to power our devices and charge our batteries. But now researchers at the University of Washington have discovered nature's alternative to the power outlet: living trees.
That's right, living trees. UW engineers Babak Parviz and Brian Otis have invented an electrical device that can be plugged directly into any tree for power. "As far as we know this is the first peer-reviewed paper of someone powering something entirely by sticking electrodes into a tree," said Parviz.
The research was based upon a breakthrough study last year out of MIT, when scientists found that plants generate a voltage of up to 200 millivolts when one electrode is placed in a plant and the other in the surrounding soil. Those researchers are already designing devices which act as forest sensors powered entirely by this new method. But until now, no one has applied these findings to the development of tree power.
It all began last summer with UW undergraduate student Carlton Himes (also the study's co-author). He spent his summer wandering around the woods surrounding campus, hooking nails to bigleaf maple trees and connecting them to his voltmeter. Sure enough, the trees registered a steady voltage of up to a few hundred millivolts.
The next step for the UW team was to build a circuit to run on the available tree power. Because the voltage generated by the trees can be so small, the resulting device -- a boost converter -- was specialized to take input voltages of as little as 20 millivolts to be stored to produce greater output. The device's produced output voltage ended up being 1.1 volts, which is enough to run low-power sensors.
more at link. http://m.mnn.com/green-tech/gadgets-electronics/stories/electrical-device-plugs-directly-into-trees-for-power
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021954055
I always loved the story of Johnny Appleseed and story of how the Red Delicious Apple was a 'wild start.'
And for you:
PADemD
(4,482 posts)It's available here:
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-secret-life-of-plants/
littlemissmartypants
(22,600 posts)PADemD
(4,482 posts)Just finished enjoying the documentary and watching Cleve Backster's experiments. I have an autographed copy of Cleve Backster's book, Primary Perception. Dr. Lyall Watson also wrote about how plants and trees communicate.
IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)PADemD
(4,482 posts)When there's nothing good on TV, I search the documentaries.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)The Secret Life of Plants - Hi-res
This is a higher resolution version of the classic and rare 1979 documentary.
Even on the lower levels of life, there is a profound consciousness or awareness that bonds all things together.
A fascinating account of the physical, emotional, and spiritual relations between plants and man." Essentially, the subject of the film is the idea that plants may be sentient, despite their lack of a nervous system and a brain.
This sentience is observed primarily through changes in the plant's conductivity, as through a polygraph, as pioneered by Cleve Backster. The book also contains a summary of Goethe's theory of plant metamorphosis.
http://www.steampunknaturalist.com/blog.html
Stevie Wonder sings throughout the many scenes and recitations of words of gurus. First class woo. It was a pleasing idea, close to indigenous peoples' beliefs of the oneness of life on Earth.