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This video will not only open your eyes, it will piss you off. (Original Post) midnight Apr 2013 OP
Guilty until proven ... Newest Reality Apr 2013 #1
I have always assumed that anything I do online can be tracked, collected, etc. Jackpine Radical Apr 2013 #3
Same here! Newest Reality Apr 2013 #4
"thought criminal" DonB Apr 2013 #8
I enjoyed this video GiveMeFreedom Apr 2013 #2
I want to watch this tomorrow to have my eyes opened and be pissed off. limpyhobbler Apr 2013 #5
Tinfoil hat bullshit. Archae Apr 2013 #6
I assure you that creating awareness goes beyond anyone person's ideas.... midnight Apr 2013 #11
"Creating awareness?" Or spreading propaganda? Archae Apr 2013 #12
The greatest thing Occupy could do at this point seems to be Volaris Apr 2013 #7
I guess "they" don't want me to see it. limpyhobbler Apr 2013 #9
Too bad, but I assure you that you already know the general theme of the contents. Jackpine Radical Apr 2013 #10
Removed by the user. Archae Apr 2013 #13

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
1. Guilty until proven ...
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 09:47 PM
Apr 2013

oh, heck, no need to prove anything really.

This is a great video for discussion. Or is it? How do people feel about the extent of the surveillance going on, (if they were not aware of it to this point)? When you've followed it for a while, you can be overwhelmed as to the extent of it and the unbridled increases in loss of privacy.

So, you post here and your views and leanings, political and otherwise, are recorded. What is your reaction? Does it change your feelings of freedom and openness when expressing yourself online? Do you reconsider FaceBook?

Does anyone know what "thought criminal" means?

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
3. I have always assumed that anything I do online can be tracked, collected, etc.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 09:51 PM
Apr 2013

I'm not about to bury my head in the sant or shut up about what I know to be right.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
4. Same here!
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 10:00 PM
Apr 2013

I could not conscience encouraging this by cowering.

So, we are putting ourselves on the "pre-crime" list by fitting the initial screening algorithm criteria.

I guess that's one way to be an almost passive rebel these days. Not much but playing "the pen is mightier than the sword".

Keep in mind that, if more and more people use words and thoughts online that correspond in innocuous ways to the keywords and patterns that they look for, and I mean bombard the Net with them, it would really make it a lot more difficult to work their system. Something to think about.

Of course, that takes courage. We could test out just how many of us they are willing to focus in on for thinking incorrectly and how far they want to take that.

 

DonB

(53 posts)
8. "thought criminal"
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 08:21 PM
Apr 2013

I don't think the right has to much to worry about, they seem to be missing one of the key ingredients.

GiveMeFreedom

(976 posts)
2. I enjoyed this video
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 09:50 PM
Apr 2013

it is very well done and I think some one high up in the media world, maybe some one like Rachel Madow would be interested in at least watching something like this? Very Powerful. Peace.

Archae

(46,262 posts)
6. Tinfoil hat bullshit.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 11:26 PM
Apr 2013

This guy and his Youtube site are openly Confederate sympathizers.

Other videos at the site use alarmist language to state that Obama is going to put the US under martial law. Soon.

"Our flag is a way of reminding Americans, as well as our leaders, that every man and woman is sovereign and that we are all endowed by our Creator with life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. This sovereign Civil Flag is a symbol of our desire to return America to the dreams upon which she was founded!"
It represents Revolution by the people, and a shift in power towards those people, rather than an absolute entrenched loyalty toward the government and its military that is espoused in our youth and citizens today.

http://www.youtube.com/user/TheTruethSeeker?feature=watch

Archae

(46,262 posts)
12. "Creating awareness?" Or spreading propaganda?
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 11:35 AM
Apr 2013

Should we take seriously the commentary from Faux "news?"

Alex Jones?

AM talk radio?

I noticed the video has been removed.
By the Youtube user.

No, I don't think it's all part of the Illuminati/Jewish/Nazi/Communist/New World Order "conspiracy."

More simply, even this guy decided it's bullshit.

Volaris

(10,260 posts)
7. The greatest thing Occupy could do at this point seems to be
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 11:31 PM
Apr 2013

to fund the education of a new generation of Lawyers, ones willing to tackle the surveillance State and the Corporate system that State serves.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
10. Too bad, but I assure you that you already know the general theme of the contents.
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 11:01 PM
Apr 2013

Very interesting that it got zapped, though. It was a very well-done video with snippets ranging from Fox News to the Young Turks detailing the growing surveillance state. It had bits from Tea Partiers decrying Big Government surveillance to Occupiers decrying the same.

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