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Top Secret Intel Docs Betray Obama Claims on Drone Targeting (McClatchy)
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Top Secret Intel Docs Betray Obama Claims on Drone TargetingUS drone war kills all kinds of people beyond Al Qaeda and
- Jon Queally, staff writer
Based on their review of leaked top-secret intelligence reports, McClatchy is reporting that the Obama Administration has long been guilty of misrepresenting the kind of groups and individuals it has targeted with its fleet of armed Predator and Reaper drones in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
McClatchy also explores the broadly held view that the US drone attacks are exacerbating conflicts, not solving them, in the regions where they take place.
Obama, they think, is misinterpreting international law, including the laws of war, which they say apply only to the uniformed military, not the civilian CIA, and to traditional battlefields like those in Afghanistan, not to Pakistans tribal area, even though it may be a sanctuary for al Qaida and other violent groups. They argue that Obama also is strengthening his executive powers with an excessively broad application of the September 2001 use-of-force resolution.
The administrations definition of imminent threat also is in dispute. The Justice Departments leaked white paper argues the United States should be able to act in self-defense in circumstances where there is evidence of further imminent attacks by terrorist groups even if there is no specific evidence of where such an attack will take place or of the precise nature of the attack. Legal scholars counter that the administration is using an exaggerated definition of imminence that doesnt exist in international law.
Im thankful that my doctors dont use their (the administrations) definition of imminence when looking at imminent death. A head cold could be enough to pull the plug on you, said Morris Davis, a Howard University Law School professor and former Air Force lawyer who served as chief prosecutor of the Guantanamo Bay terrorism trials.
Since 2004, drone program critics say, the strikes have killed hundreds of civilians, fueling anti-U.S. outrage, boosting extremist recruiting, and helping to destabilize Pakistans U.S.-backed government. And some experts warn that the United States may be setting a new standard of international conduct that other countries will grasp to justify their own targeted killings and to evade accountability.
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http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/04/09/188062/obamas-drone-war-kills-others.html#storylink=cpy
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Top Secret Intel Docs Betray Obama Claims on Drone Targeting (McClatchy) (Original Post)
KoKo
Apr 2013
OP
A govt that claims the prerogative of assassinating US citizens + their children would lie to us?
kenny blankenship
Apr 2013
#2
CrispyQ
(36,460 posts)1. In our name, by our Nobel Peace prize winning, democratic president.
Forty-three of 95 drone strikes reviewed for that period hit groups other than al Qaida, including the Haqqani network, several Pakistani Taliban factions and the unidentified individuals described only as foreign fighters and other militants.
During the same period, the reports estimated there was a single civilian casualty, an individual killed in an April 22, 2011, strike in North Waziristan, the main sanctuary for militant groups in Pakistans tribal areas.
Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/04/09/188062/obamas-drone-war-kills-others.html#storylink=cpy
During the same period, the reports estimated there was a single civilian casualty, an individual killed in an April 22, 2011, strike in North Waziristan, the main sanctuary for militant groups in Pakistans tribal areas.
Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/04/09/188062/obamas-drone-war-kills-others.html#storylink=cpy
Must be that 'new math.'
KoKo
(84,711 posts)3. Thanks for reply...sounds like you are on top of this...
kenny blankenship
(15,689 posts)2. A govt that claims the prerogative of assassinating US citizens + their children would lie to us?
Who could have foreseen something like this?!?!
KoKo
(84,711 posts)4. Yep...as Condi Rice famously said: "Who Could Have Known...
We would be Attacked?"
It's ALWAYS: "How Coulda' Known these days...from Banking Crisis to suddenly SS being "Insolvent" and other issues inbetween.
"WHO COULD HAVE KNOWN?"
WELL IT'S YOUR FUCKING JOB TO KNOW!!!
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)5. Political killings
This has been obvious to anyone who's been paying attention to Afghan and Pakistani politics for the past 10+ years. These leaks merely confirm that even the government recognizes it as such.