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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,922 posts)
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 08:02 PM Aug 2020

Trump's payroll tax holiday could make Social Security's finances worse.

President Donald Trump's executive action deferring, and possibly forgiving, payroll taxes could leave Social Security and Medicare on even shakier ground.

The entitlement programs' finances have long been troubled. And the crush of coronavirus-induced layoffs has only deepened the problem by slashing the amount of payroll tax revenue going into their trust funds.

A big fan of payroll tax cuts, Trump signed an executive action Saturday deferring the employee portion of payroll taxes -- 6.2% for Social Security and 1.45% for Medicare -- for workers making less than $100,000 a year through the rest of 2020.

If he's reelected, Trump said, he plans to forgive the taxes and make permanent cuts to the payroll taxes.

"I'm going to make them all permanent," he said.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/coronavirus-has-already-dealt-a-blow-to-social-securitys-finances-trumps-payroll-tax-holiday-could-make-it-worse/ar-BB17HpQ5?li=BBnb7Kz

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Trump's payroll tax holiday could make Social Security's finances worse. (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2020 OP
Dems must challenge this! SheltieLover Aug 2020 #1
so wait... consider_this Aug 2020 #2
I don't see how what Trump is doing is legal but VMA131Marine Aug 2020 #3
I'm pretty sure it's on the first $100K in income. subterranean Aug 2020 #6
Trump's deception. C_U_L8R Aug 2020 #4
How does Rebl2 Aug 2020 #5
it doesn't Skittles Aug 2020 #7

consider_this

(2,203 posts)
2. so wait...
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 08:25 PM
Aug 2020

can someone explain:

Does "make them all permanent' re payroll tax cut mean that no one pays back the cut that is planned to be made through end of year, or that no more payroll taxes going forward?

or is it even clear what he is uttering?

VMA131Marine

(4,138 posts)
3. I don't see how what Trump is doing is legal but
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 08:27 PM
Aug 2020

if it is there are people getting screwed. A married couple making $60,000 each would seem to get a benefit of $9,180 but a married couple where one person works and makes $120,000 while the other stays home would get zero benefit. The only way this would be equitable is if it is on the first $100,000 of income. This is hard to do in practice because payroll taxes are taken out by the employer, who does not have visibility into what an employees spouse makes. Plus, if you make $99,999 you save $7,650 versus no reduction if you make $100,000. I’d take the one dollar pay cut.

subterranean

(3,427 posts)
6. I'm pretty sure it's on the first $100K in income.
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 08:51 PM
Aug 2020

He didn't say whether that means individual income or household income.

C_U_L8R

(44,998 posts)
4. Trump's deception.
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 08:33 PM
Aug 2020

It's a tax deferment not a tax cut. Everyone will owe more later.
This whole thing is a thin PR ploy.

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