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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 11:19 AM Apr 2013

Graham: Without Intervention In Syria, Region Will ‘Fall Into Chaos’

Source: TPM

PEMA LEVY 10:55 AM EDT, SUNDAY APRIL 28, 2013

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) said Sunday that without intervention in the Syrian civil war, the entire region will "fall into chaos" by the end of the year.

Appearing on CBS' "Face the Nation," Graham called for neutralizing the Assad regime's air power by bombing Syrian air bases with cruise missels, a step he said could "turn the tide" without putting boots on the ground.

Without international action by the end of the year, "the whole region's gonna fall into chaos," he said.

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Guess Lindsey hasn't heard the news; Libya's all ready in chaos.
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Graham: Without Intervention In Syria, Region Will ‘Fall Into Chaos’ (Original Post) DonViejo Apr 2013 OP
The dude is a one-man fail machine Gore1FL Apr 2013 #1
Right, because WITH intervention the region will still fall into chaos. Like Iraq and Afghanistan. SharonAnn Apr 2013 #27
Doesn't Chaos always come AFTER we intervene? Heather MC Apr 2013 #39
I'm glad Iraq is fine now jakeXT Apr 2013 #2
I thought he was dead Demeter Apr 2013 #3
Why does that fucking asscarrot get so much air time? L0oniX Apr 2013 #4
because he knows that saying stupid crap will keep his name in the news. olddad56 Apr 2013 #28
CBS News Whore Bob Schieffer was giving him open air for lies and more lies. The Stranger Apr 2013 #43
Hey Lindsey...STFU PearliePoo2 Apr 2013 #5
Thanks for posting this. I am still tuned into CBS and heard snappyturtle Apr 2013 #6
Reading McCaskill's comments make me more concerned than Graham's... midnight Apr 2013 #12
Believe me there was no discussion in the realm of domestic policy snappyturtle Apr 2013 #15
You are correct snappy... midnight Apr 2013 #20
Just what neighbors John2 Apr 2013 #35
She didn't elaborate. I think becoming involved there would be snappyturtle Apr 2013 #38
Huckleberry and his sidekick McGrumpy need to STFU. truebluegreen Apr 2013 #7
I wish he'd spend more time on improving American lives Laurian Apr 2013 #8
Head on over, tough guy, and see what you can do! City Lights Apr 2013 #9
I thought invading Iraq was supposed to prevent chaos daleo Apr 2013 #10
Sign your ass up for the infantry tabasco Apr 2013 #11
I realize that SC is a southern fried backwater... Alamuti Lotus Apr 2013 #13
I quit with CBS altogether go west young man Apr 2013 #14
The CBS News Division was entirely purged by Sumner Redstone and Viacom. leveymg Apr 2013 #16
This is all about drumming up business for the defense dept.! dmosh42 Apr 2013 #17
But Lindsey, we don't have any money. Haven't you heard? NCarolinawoman Apr 2013 #18
I like this... midnight Apr 2013 #21
Well, that is very kind of you..... NCarolinawoman Apr 2013 #34
Right back at you..... midnight Apr 2013 #37
Let Israel handle their own problems. xtraxritical Apr 2013 #19
Isn't that why we give them billions in Military Aid. bahrbearian Apr 2013 #24
They won't take on anyone who will put up a decent fignt if it involves troops on the ground. Purveyor Apr 2013 #25
I would say let Russia handle it. cstanleytech Apr 2013 #33
Has there been an instance where this little dingleberry DIDN'T favor warfare? Paladin Apr 2013 #22
far as i can tell, the region has been in chaos iamthebandfanman Apr 2013 #23
Lindsey Graham will be the first one to turn on Obama if an intervention goes bad. yellowcanine Apr 2013 #26
Was that Miss Lindsey VA_Jill Apr 2013 #29
So is Graham going to pay for this out of his own pocket? Rosa Luxemburg Apr 2013 #30
Shut the Fuck Up, Liar Graham. SoapBox Apr 2013 #31
alright, Lindsey, tear off your shirt, get some rocket launchers, go over there and go Rambo on them yurbud Apr 2013 #32
All this sounds waaaaay too familiar. Brigid Apr 2013 #36
cruise missels? Skittles Apr 2013 #40
Oh no Cowboy JustAnotherGen Apr 2013 #41
It's like porn for this guy ... and he's close to a wargasm JoePhilly Apr 2013 #42
Heh PD Turk Apr 2013 #44
who fucking asked him? Enrique Apr 2013 #45

SharonAnn

(13,767 posts)
27. Right, because WITH intervention the region will still fall into chaos. Like Iraq and Afghanistan.
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 02:48 PM
Apr 2013
 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
39. Doesn't Chaos always come AFTER we intervene?
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 01:30 AM
Apr 2013

If we really want to help, then we need to stay out of it.

jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
2. I'm glad Iraq is fine now
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 11:29 AM
Apr 2013

Mon, Apr 15, 2013
Insurgents launched what appeared to be a highly coordinated string of attacks across Iraq on Monday morning, killing at least 36 and wounding more than 200, according to officials.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/coordinated-attacks-in-iraq-kill-at-least-36/2013/04/15/ed06b047-3503-44fe-a411-baa8abf79756_video.html

Fri, Apr 19, 2013
BAGHDAD (AP) — Iraqi police and morgue officials say the death toll in a suicide bombing inside a Baghdad cafe has risen to 32 killed and 65 wounded.
http://news.yahoo.com/death-toll-iraq-cafe-suicide-attack-rises-32-092802384.html

The Stranger

(11,297 posts)
43. CBS News Whore Bob Schieffer was giving him open air for lies and more lies.
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 04:31 PM
Apr 2013

That piece of shit really is pretty worthless.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
5. Hey Lindsey...STFU
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 11:32 AM
Apr 2013

You and your pal McGrumps can never get enough "war on".
Go get lathered-up and beat your war-mongering chests somewhere else.
Give the Sunday talk shows a fucking rest.

snappyturtle

(14,656 posts)
6. Thanks for posting this. I am still tuned into CBS and heard
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 11:32 AM
Apr 2013

the arguments for going into Syria...no fly zone, taking out
arsenals, and maybe, just maybe, according to McCaskill
troops on the ground. She ramped it up stating that not to
do something Iran will look at that as weakness on the U.S.
part; she added that Iran and Hezbollah "are busy" here (Syria).

Bob Scheiffer did point out the deja vu sound of chemicals of
mass destruction....oh, but they're certain...one defecting general
had told them so although they didn't know where the order to use
such came from. It's a mess and sounds ominous to me. imho

midnight

(26,624 posts)
12. Reading McCaskill's comments make me more concerned than Graham's...
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 11:41 AM
Apr 2013

Instead of putting anymore troops on the ground... We need to get more people on the jobs roll...

snappyturtle

(14,656 posts)
15. Believe me there was no discussion in the realm of domestic policy
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 11:48 AM
Apr 2013

discussed in this segment. McCaskill is a member of the
Armed Services Committee so she was throwing in her
"expertise". They also said that by the U.S. becoming
involved neighbors of Syria could then help and I took
that to mean troops on the ground! The whole area will
be an even bigger disaster. imho

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
35. Just what neighbors
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 09:37 PM
Apr 2013

are she referring to, Turkey, Israel, Saudi Arabia or Jordan? Hezbullah has been engaged with Syria over decades. Iran and Syria both supply them with weapons. I've also read information, North Korea has ties to training Hezbullah. So it is disingenuous to say they might, when they are allies. This is nothing but misinformation to the American Public. If the U.S. enter Syria, it is a prelude to a bigger War in the region, which is exactly what the neocons envisioned. The dominoes will fall because the Russians will get involved and maybe others.

I've seen articles where certain nations opposing the U.S. and Israel are planning for a possible U.S.\Israeli invasion for a wider War in the region, which would tip off a World War show down. And the article I read does indicate why North Korea is also preparing. This same article suggests the U.S. wants a War and can't help themselves because of the belief, they cannot be beaten. This article suggests, those countries believe that will be the U.S. flaw. It suggests they are being sucked into a quad mire just like Vietnam and the Soviet Union in Afghanistan.

This article suggested these countries believe the U.S. is spending enormous amounts of resources on continuous Wars while ignoring domestic Policies. It suggests these countries have been building up their militaries for years in response to U.S. aggression, and in particular to what happened in Iraq. It suggests that the Iranian military and intelligence forces were countering for such a U.S. aggression and why they did not object to the invasion of Iraq and their enemy Saddam. They saw this as helpful to them while they built up their own forces, including their military industrial complex. They have been forming their own secret alliances, including trading secrets with the North koreans on missile capability and nuclear capacity. The article also suggested, the North Koreans have also been training Terrorist groups in Africa. So Syria, Iran and North Korea see these Terrorists group as paramilitary groups, that will perform operations in case of a future War with the U.S. I would not exclude contacts with the Taliban also. So regardless of what McCain, Graham and McCaskill think, the other side maybe planning also and preparing. I don't know if our Intelligence services have any knowledge of this article, but I think it is information worth considering. Another thing that needs to be seriously considered, is arming these opposition groups. It may come back to bite us.

Now you have a British General claiming entering Syria would pose a bigger War. Lets not forget Syria does have their backers particularly in Russia and China. I would not rust either, because they would probably love to see the U.S. fail. Those idiots in Congress maybe getting us into something, that we may regret. Israel also wanted us to attack Iraq. A serious question that needs to be answered here, if it comes down to a wider War with Iran, does the U.S. Government really trust the installed Government in Iraq, to not enter on the side of Iran? The American Public needs to be better informed period than by a media and Congress, which gave us the past Wars. That letter addressed to Bush by the soldier who served in Iraq, should have been in the media and printed nationwide. It should have also included the Congress and the U.S. media.

snappyturtle

(14,656 posts)
38. She didn't elaborate. I think becoming involved there would be
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 01:11 AM
Apr 2013

a terrible decision. Surely, U.S. citizens will not allow it to happern.

Laurian

(2,593 posts)
8. I wish he'd spend more time on improving American lives
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 11:35 AM
Apr 2013

and less time beating the war drums. I cannot even stand to hear his whiney assed voice anymore.

City Lights

(25,171 posts)
9. Head on over, tough guy, and see what you can do!
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 11:35 AM
Apr 2013

Lead the charge, and take all the other chickenhawks in the republican party with you!

 

Alamuti Lotus

(3,093 posts)
13. I realize that SC is a southern fried backwater...
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 11:44 AM
Apr 2013

But isn't there anybody qualified to send this chicken hawk to the unemployment line? Some teahadist goof would be an improvement.

 

go west young man

(4,856 posts)
14. I quit with CBS altogether
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 11:45 AM
Apr 2013

since their lovefest with Graham and McCain began. Boycott their channel and the problem goes away.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
16. The CBS News Division was entirely purged by Sumner Redstone and Viacom.
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 12:10 PM
Apr 2013

Went totally Bush and Neocon under new management. Sad end to a great liberal institution.

NCarolinawoman

(2,825 posts)
18. But Lindsey, we don't have any money. Haven't you heard?
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 12:23 PM
Apr 2013

Of course you can always raise taxes instead of stealing our social security and taking it from Meals on Wheels.

And while you're at it, leave our tired troops alone and go over to Syria yourself, with your OWN boots on the ground!

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
25. They won't take on anyone who will put up a decent fignt if it involves troops on the ground.
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 02:04 PM
Apr 2013

Bombing from the air and shooting in the back 'rock throwing' Palestinians are their specialty.

cstanleytech

(26,080 posts)
33. I would say let Russia handle it.
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 08:16 PM
Apr 2013

They are a major trading partner with Syria so really if anyone can persuade the government in Syria it would be Russia.

Paladin

(28,204 posts)
22. Has there been an instance where this little dingleberry DIDN'T favor warfare?
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 12:46 PM
Apr 2013

If he's ever been against expending our blood and treasure on the other side of the globe, I sure as hell don't remember it.

yellowcanine

(35,692 posts)
26. Lindsey Graham will be the first one to turn on Obama if an intervention goes bad.
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 02:11 PM
Apr 2013

See Graham gnash and wail about Benghazi.

Rosa Luxemburg

(28,627 posts)
30. So is Graham going to pay for this out of his own pocket?
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 03:26 PM
Apr 2013

this country is broke we only have money for interveing in Syria. Are they attacking us?

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
31. Shut the Fuck Up, Liar Graham.
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 04:45 PM
Apr 2013

I don't want to hear anything you have to say.

An FYI and Reminder...Wikipedia:

"Military service

Graham joined the United States Air Force in 1982, and served on active duty until 1988. Following his departure he stayed in the military, joining the South Carolina Air National Guard[2] and the U.S. Air Force Reserve. During the Gulf War, he was recalled to active duty, serving as a Judge Advocate at McEntire Air National Guard Station in Eastover, South Carolina, where he helped brief departing pilots on the laws of war.[3] He later transferred from the Air National Guard to the Air Force Reserve.

In 1998, according to the Congressional daily newspaper The Hill, Graham was describing himself on his website as an Operation Desert Shield and Desert Storm veteran. In reality, he never left South Carolina. Graham responded "I have not told anybody I'm a combatant," he said. "I'm not a war hero, and never said I was. I never intended to lie. If I have lied about my military record, I'm not fit to serve in Congress," further noting that he "never deployed."[4]
In 2004, Graham received a promotion to Colonel in the U.S. Air Force Reserve at a White House ceremony officiated by President George W. Bush.

Graham served in Iraq as a reservist on active duty for short periods during April and two weeks in August 2007, where he worked on detainee and rule-of-law issues.[5] He also served in Afghanistan during the August 2009 Senate recess.[6]

Through 2010, Graham served as a senior instructor for the Judge Advocate General's Corps, U.S. Air Force.[7]"

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
32. alright, Lindsey, tear off your shirt, get some rocket launchers, go over there and go Rambo on them
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 06:15 PM
Apr 2013

If you're not going to do that, shut the fuck up.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
45. who fucking asked him?
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 07:59 PM
Apr 2013

oh yeah it's those TV assholes that insist on shoving Graham down our throats 24-7.

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