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CHIMO

(9,223 posts)
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 07:46 PM Apr 2013

Ex-NASA scientist hits back at 'Neanderthal' Conservatives

Source: CBC News

A U.S. activist derided by Canadian Energy Minister Joe Oliver this week over his opposition to the Keystone XL pipeline says Canada's government is a "Neanderthal" on climate issues, in an interview airing Saturday on CBC Radio's The House.

James Hansen, a former NASA scientist who has been a vocal opponent of Alberta's oilsands and the proposal for a pipeline to carry oilsands crude to the Texas Gulf coast, was reacting to Oliver's characterization of his arguments as "nonsense" during a visit to Washington this week.

"Well, the current government is a Neanderthal on this issue," Hansen told host Evan Solomon.



Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2013/04/26/pol-promo-house-hansen-oliver.html



Apr 26, 2013 6:31 PM ET


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Ex-NASA scientist hits back at 'Neanderthal' Conservatives (Original Post) CHIMO Apr 2013 OP
Good answer. k&r n/t Laelth Apr 2013 #1
Mr. Neander Thal says: DeSwiss Apr 2013 #2
Whoa whoa big difference between Neanderthals and conservatives. Initech Apr 2013 #3
James Hansen is a conservative. bananas Apr 2013 #4
He keeps getting arrested protesting Obama. Pterodactyl Apr 2013 #5
A Conservative who believes in global warming and wants to reduce GHG emissions? daleo Apr 2013 #6
Yes and no bananas Apr 2013 #7
Stephen Dion. the previous Liberal leader before Ignatieff daleo Apr 2013 #9
Reason for his Statement CHIMO Apr 2013 #8
 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
2. Mr. Neander Thal says:
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 08:12 PM
Apr 2013

''Watch who you callin' a NeanderThal buddy!

K&R



- And a Mr. Cro Magnon has already chimed in and said: "Don't even think about going there!''

Initech

(99,915 posts)
3. Whoa whoa big difference between Neanderthals and conservatives.
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 10:43 PM
Apr 2013

Neanderthals worked to advance the progress of humanity and made advancements in technology. Conservatives want to take us backwards.

bananas

(27,509 posts)
4. James Hansen is a conservative.
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 11:06 PM
Apr 2013
Jim Hansen’s Conservative Climate Plan

Hansen describes himself as a moderate conservative and is registered to vote as an independent.

http://www.climateshifts.org/?p=6897


“It needs to be done on the basis of conservative principles — not one dime to make the government bigger ,” said Dr. Hansen, who is registered as a political independent.

http://reason.com/blog/2013/04/02/climate-change-researcher-james-hansen-b

daleo

(21,317 posts)
6. A Conservative who believes in global warming and wants to reduce GHG emissions?
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 12:33 PM
Apr 2013

Nice to know one exists.

He is in favour of a fee on carbon, rather like the Liberal Party of Canada was a few years ago. A carbon tax is a sensible idea, and one that can appeal to a broad spectrum of people (though fossil fuel executives tend to hate the idea for obvious reasons).

bananas

(27,509 posts)
7. Yes and no
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 03:18 PM
Apr 2013

Sometimes people use the term "carbon tax" to refer to any method of putting a price on carbon.

However, in this context, it refers to a particular method of putting a price on carbon.

There were two proposed systems for reducing co2 emissions, called "cap and trade" and "tax and dividend".

Cap and trade had the most political support, and was the only one which had a chance of being enacted.

Hansen was outspoken against cap and trade, and in favor of tax and dividend.

The Liberal Party of Canada supported cap and trade, and was against tax and dividend.

http://www.liberal.ca/newsroom/news-release/reality-check-liberals-raise-taxes-families/

Michael Ignatieff and the Liberal Party do not support a carbon tax and will not introduce one. Instead, “We will quickly put in place a cap-and-trade system. Ideally, such a system would become global. It must be verifiable. It must be binding. And it must lead to absolute reductions in the amount of carbon pollution we spew into the atmosphere.” (Michael Ignatieff’s Speech on Liberal environment, climate change and clean energy jobs plan, Laval Quebec, November 29, 2009)




daleo

(21,317 posts)
9. Stephen Dion. the previous Liberal leader before Ignatieff
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 11:19 PM
Apr 2013

Was in favor of a carbon tax as part of his Green Shift plan, which was very sensible in my opinion.

CHIMO

(9,223 posts)
8. Reason for his Statement
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 08:50 PM
Apr 2013

Canada's natural resources minister, Joe Oliver, rarely bothers to hide his dislike for critics of the country's carbon-heavy tar sands or the controversial Keystone XL pipeline.

But it still came as a surprise to hear Oliver lash out at one of America's pre-eminent scientists, climatologist James Hansen, during a visit to Washington DC.

Oliver was in Washington on one of the now-frequent visits by Canadian politicians to try to build support for the pipeline.

The charm offensive evidently did not apply to Hansen. In remarks made at a Washington thinktank, Oliver said Hansen should be "ashamed" of his opposition to the Keystone XL pipeline, and for warning that exploitation of the carbon-heavy tar sands would drive climate change past a point of no return.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2013/apr/24/canada-joe-oliver-attack-james-hansen

These people believe, as a fundamental truth, that dinosaurs roamed the earth 2,000 years ago. They were here when everthing started!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockwell_Day

I would not get wound up about conserveing things like the earth and liberating the earth!

They want a pipeline because they need heavy oil. Some guys named K---- need it to replace South American heavy oil.

http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/empire/2013/04/201342882137322376.html

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