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FailureToCommunicate

(14,007 posts)
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 08:12 AM Apr 2013

Carjacking victim describes harrowing night

Source: Boston Globe

The 26-year-old Chinese entrepreneur had just pulled his new Mercedes to the curb on Brighton Avenue to answer a text when an old sedan swerved behind him, slamming to a stop. A man in dark clothes got out and approached the passenger window. It was nearly 11 p.m. last Thursday.

The man rapped on the glass, speaking quickly. Danny, unable to hear him, lowered the window -- and the man reached an arm through, unlocked the door, and climbed in, brandishing a silver handgun.

“Don’t be stupid,” he told Danny. He asked if he had followed the news about Monday’s Boston Marathon bombings. Danny had, down to the release of the grainy suspect photos less than six hours earlier.

“I did that,” said the man, who would later be identified as Tamerlan Tsarnaev. “And I just killed a policeman in Cambridge.”


http://www.boston.com/metrodesk/2013/04/25/carjack-victim-recounts-his-harrowing-night/BhQWGzarWee8MZ6KtMHJNN/story.html



Read more: http://www.boston.com/metrodesk/2013/04/25/carjack-victim-recounts-his-harrowing-night/BhQWGzarWee8MZ6KtMHJNN/story.html



Finally! Another important piece of the puzzle from that night.

Another unlikely hero: "Danny" (no last name yet...Danny told the Globe reporter, Eric Moskowitz, that he doesn't want his mother back in China to worry about him!)

Update: The Globe has added a brief interview with the reporter at the link.
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Carjacking victim describes harrowing night (Original Post) FailureToCommunicate Apr 2013 OP
Wow--- dude made a brilliant move to escape// trumad Apr 2013 #1
Absolutely! "Cash only" never sounded so good! FailureToCommunicate Apr 2013 #2
They would have killed him Yo_Mama Apr 2013 #14
Yes, he saved a lot of lives, in NYC perhaps, or Boston. So glad he made it. freshwest Apr 2013 #49
One happy note out of Yo_Mama Apr 2013 #51
Harrowing tale. Ash_F Apr 2013 #3
I wonder what the real reason the guy does not want his real name published? itsrobert Apr 2013 #4
It MAY be that, but he sounds sincere about not wanting his mother to worry. FailureToCommunicate Apr 2013 #6
You know what... trumad Apr 2013 #9
Have you seen these Free Jahar people?! wicket Apr 2013 #12
Agreed. freshwest Apr 2013 #50
Because he'll be totally harassed by the press Yo_Mama Apr 2013 #15
Wow... I was going to post something like this as a joke. harmonicon Apr 2013 #16
Well, he did say he was still a student to the bombers itsrobert Apr 2013 #19
Except the article specifically said he got a work permit Dan Ken Apr 2013 #20
No the article does not specifically say he got a work permit itsrobert Apr 2013 #21
With your omniscience, I'd guess you would know. harmonicon Apr 2013 #22
Just trying to figure out what type of visa he is here on. The math doesn't add up. itsrobert Apr 2013 #25
Is it any of your business, or are you just xenophobic and/or racist? (nt) harmonicon Apr 2013 #26
Why would I be xenophobic and or racist for asking for details because the facts as reported itsrobert Apr 2013 #27
What's your reasoning for doubting the man? He's a foreigner? He's Chinese? harmonicon Apr 2013 #30
Looks like you want me to shutup itsrobert Apr 2013 #34
I look forward to getting that thousand dollars from you. (nt) harmonicon Apr 2013 #35
most people here on student visa are veryyy wealthy. American colleges are very expensive. Sunlei Apr 2013 #29
Maybe the family back home has money treestar Apr 2013 #45
a likely scenario itsrobert Apr 2013 #54
I'll take that bet. I'll bet $1,000. (nt) harmonicon Apr 2013 #23
You got that right. Sometimes, I wonder if those posters are truly democrats... JackN415 Apr 2013 #31
Sorry, in my haste this morning to post, I added the comment that I heard from the FailureToCommunicate Apr 2013 #37
lol Marrah_G Apr 2013 #55
Danny's going to be a good witness for the prosecution! Historic NY Apr 2013 #5
Why should his mother not know, that he leased a 50000$ Mercedes? jakeXT Apr 2013 #7
So what if he leased a Mercedes.. trumad Apr 2013 #10
I heard he also owns a microwave... octothorpe Apr 2013 #17
A lot of time people with foreigners choose a nickname davidpdx Apr 2013 #39
"Danhui" is a common Chinese name. El Fuego Apr 2013 #43
Yes, that is common davidpdx Apr 2013 #57
No but it could be a nickname treestar Apr 2013 #46
Danny saved New York as well as himself ... Wernothelpless Apr 2013 #8
Agreed. He joins the first two heros on the winners platform: FailureToCommunicate Apr 2013 #11
Ironic Jeff Bauman, who his brother looked in the face, expecting him to die, survived to ID them. freshwest Apr 2013 #52
This attack-as the press has said- feels so personal. Women, children, families, your FailureToCommunicate Apr 2013 #56
Too bad he didn't have one of these anti carjacking devices on his car Victor_c3 Apr 2013 #13
I. Want. One! (Danny's car was so expensive I'm surprised he didn't have this already) FailureToCommunicate Apr 2013 #42
Odd that they targeted so many Chinese people. Pterodactyl Apr 2013 #18
Odd that he targeted anyone. What did anyone do to them? SunSeeker Apr 2013 #24
I agree. America was nothing but good to these people. And they attack us in return. Pterodactyl Apr 2013 #36
"Ol' Speedbump and Gilligan" Jamastiene Apr 2013 #44
+1 treestar Apr 2013 #47
Or as Obama said about victims of gun violence, they were not 'at the wrong place at the wrong time' freshwest Apr 2013 #48
They were targeting expensive car drivers, who they thought would have more cash. El Fuego Apr 2013 #32
It turned out to be not a very good assumption on their part davidpdx Apr 2013 #41
I think it is a bit fitting that Danny was one of the two main people responsible for catching davidpdx Apr 2013 #40
This guy Danny is a real hero, 100% !! Sunlei Apr 2013 #28
Thank you, this fills in more of the puzzling timeline. that poor guy. Good job Danny, you stayed uppityperson Apr 2013 #33
THe Globe link has added an interview with the reporter, Eric Moskowitz. FailureToCommunicate Apr 2013 #38
Maybe through James Alen Fox, who also writes for the globe jakeXT Apr 2013 #53
 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
1. Wow--- dude made a brilliant move to escape//
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 08:28 AM
Apr 2013

or he would have been stuck with these two clowns the whole night.

He deserves major props for bringing this thing to an end.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
14. They would have killed him
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 09:57 AM
Apr 2013

They couldn't let him go, could they? He would have set off the alarm and the hunt.

They had him tell his roommate he was sleeping somewhere else so that the car would not be flagged by the police.

His courage saved his own life and probably others. I hope he is not put off life in the US by this.

itsrobert

(14,157 posts)
4. I wonder what the real reason the guy does not want his real name published?
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 08:42 AM
Apr 2013

A $50,000 car and starting up his own company? I wonder what category of visa, he is here under?

wicket

(14,901 posts)
12. Have you seen these Free Jahar people?!
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 09:05 AM
Apr 2013

They are attacking anyone and everyone who doesn't support their "theory" that Jahar is innocent. I don't blame "Danny" one bit.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
15. Because he'll be totally harassed by the press
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 10:00 AM
Apr 2013

Right now reporters, like packs of baying wolves, are hunting down anyone they can find with any connection.

Further, even if you assume that the brothers were acting entirely alone, to some people he will be the villain in this story. It is not the safest type of notoriety. He has a real life, and wants to keep it.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
16. Wow... I was going to post something like this as a joke.
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 10:56 AM
Apr 2013

I mean, whose job did this guy "take," you know? However, it seems I don't have to. Hatred and xenophobia reign on DU these days.

itsrobert

(14,157 posts)
19. Well, he did say he was still a student to the bombers
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 11:59 AM
Apr 2013

Maybe he really is here on a Student Visa and working instead? How much do you want to bet he is not authorized to work in this country?

 

Dan Ken

(149 posts)
20. Except the article specifically said he got a work permit
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 12:03 PM
Apr 2013

after returning to his native country, and came back with that permit.

So I don't think it's fair to make stuff up about him.

itsrobert

(14,157 posts)
21. No the article does not specifically say he got a work permit
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 12:09 PM
Apr 2013

It says he went back to China to wait for a work permit. It doesn't say he actually got one. Don't say "specifically" when that is not the facts as reported.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
22. With your omniscience, I'd guess you would know.
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 12:15 PM
Apr 2013

Umm... he said he told the guys who kidnapped him that he was a student. You know he said that because he told a journalist that. You know that, right? While reading the article did you instead get lost in a dream world where you thought you were remote viewing the experience?

itsrobert

(14,157 posts)
25. Just trying to figure out what type of visa he is here on. The math doesn't add up.
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 12:41 PM
Apr 2013

"He came back two months ago, leasing a Mercedes and moving into a high-rise with two Chinese friends while diving into a startup."

Is he here on an EB-5? That takes a lot of money.


http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=13ad2f8b69583210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=13ad2f8b69583210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD

Does he have exceptional abilities in his field?

itsrobert

(14,157 posts)
27. Why would I be xenophobic and or racist for asking for details because the facts as reported
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 12:48 PM
Apr 2013

don't add up?

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
30. What's your reasoning for doubting the man? He's a foreigner? He's Chinese?
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 01:02 PM
Apr 2013

You started this quagmire you've gotten yourself into by insinuating that someone would want stay anonymous for nefarious reasons with zero reason.

itsrobert

(14,157 posts)
34. Looks like you want me to shutup
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 01:19 PM
Apr 2013

I can take a hint. (you really don't want to know the true story, just a puff piece put out by the press)

thanks

I will shut up now, until the real truth comes out. And it will.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
29. most people here on student visa are veryyy wealthy. American colleges are very expensive.
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 12:58 PM
Apr 2013

Most Americans can't afford college these days.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
45. Maybe the family back home has money
Sat Apr 27, 2013, 05:12 PM
Apr 2013

Merely being here from a foreign country does not mean one is not wealthy or from a wealthy family.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,007 posts)
37. Sorry, in my haste this morning to post, I added the comment that I heard from the
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 07:39 PM
Apr 2013

Globe reporter, Eric Moskowitz, being interviewed on WBUR where Moskowitz says "Danny" only wanted to give him his first name...so his mother back in China would not worry. It was nothing more mysterious, or nefarious, than that.

New to the link is now part of the interview with the reporter.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
39. A lot of time people with foreigners choose a nickname
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 11:48 PM
Apr 2013

I teach English abroad and usually most of my students (no all) have an English nickname. It is very possible that is his English nickname that he goes by with his friends.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
57. Yes, that is common
Sat Apr 27, 2013, 10:42 PM
Apr 2013

That they pick something that is close to or sounds close to their native name. The other way I've seen people do that is to use half or a part of their name. For example the name Hyunjin may just got be Jin.

Most of the Korean and Chinese names are very hard for me pronounce (I've taught in both countries) and I feel so horrible when I mispronounce them. Thankfully my wife has one of the easiest names to pronounce.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
46. No but it could be a nickname
Sat Apr 27, 2013, 05:14 PM
Apr 2013

Asian immigrants sometimes pick out a name to use as Americans may mispronounce their actual name.

Wernothelpless

(410 posts)
8. Danny saved New York as well as himself ...
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 08:52 AM
Apr 2013

This one man made all the difference ...

He may not want to be a hero, but he is ...

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
52. Ironic Jeff Bauman, who his brother looked in the face, expecting him to die, survived to ID them.
Sat Apr 27, 2013, 05:29 PM
Apr 2013

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To do that requires a level of cold bloodedness and uncaring about hurting others that is shocking. I'm not sure if Bauman saw Jahar, as the story I read said he ID'd Tamerlan. But he may have seen them both.

It was just before the explosion that shredded his legs. Video of the two brothers caused the police to be suspicious, because they seemed so calm in the mayhem. No doubt they showed the images to Jeff as he lay in the hospital. And now here we are, on the verge of a trial that will make history.

Carlos Arredondo's jumping over the barricades to carry Bauman to emergency personnel and the fine doctors of Boston are all part of bringing this horror to an close. When the trial begins and the victims have their say, Jahar will learn how their plans for glory or revenge failed. And maybe, he will even learn the why of it.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,007 posts)
56. This attack-as the press has said- feels so personal. Women, children, families, your
Sat Apr 27, 2013, 08:48 PM
Apr 2013

next door neighbor.... Your student. We are still reacting at a gut level. And, even though I lost two friends in the Twin Towers attack...this still feels more personal. Weird.

You are so right about the irony. That would make anyone think about believing in karma.
I hadn't thought much about what you pointed out, till now. Thanks.

SunSeeker

(51,512 posts)
24. Odd that he targeted anyone. What did anyone do to them?
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 12:17 PM
Apr 2013

As far as I can tell from the media reports, they didn't specifically target Chinese people. Only two Chinese people were reported as victims. It appears the carjacking victim was picked because Ol' Speedbump and Gilligan have a thing for Mercedes and this guy was stopped on the side of the road with his engine running, providing an opportunity. And the Chinese grad student who died happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time, like the over 200 other victims of this senseless act.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
48. Or as Obama said about victims of gun violence, they were not 'at the wrong place at the wrong time'
Sat Apr 27, 2013, 05:21 PM
Apr 2013
but instead, were actually doing the right thing at the right time.

Being at work, school, running in the marathon, on their way and living their lives. The ones who shoot, bomb or maim are in the wrong. I know you aren't flippant, but I have thought a lot about his words, when he disputed that common saying at memorial services.

As Will PItt or another said, instead of complaining of rights being endangered by the shelter in place request, the police in Boston restored real freedom. Which the runners and this student had the right to expect.


davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
41. It turned out to be not a very good assumption on their part
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 11:59 PM
Apr 2013

Then again they probably didn't have a lot of options. It sounds like beyond the bombings themselves they didn't really think about what they would do after that. Not only that they picked a vehicle that had GPS that could be tracked with an iPhone.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
40. I think it is a bit fitting that Danny was one of the two main people responsible for catching
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 11:52 PM
Apr 2013

these two (the other one being the guy who had the boat in his backyard). He was able to help bring justice for the four people and hundreds of injured including someone from his own country who was murdered.

I hope Danny took the second chance and told the gal in NY how he feels.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
33. Thank you, this fills in more of the puzzling timeline. that poor guy. Good job Danny, you stayed
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 01:12 PM
Apr 2013

alive and got to call 911.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,007 posts)
38. THe Globe link has added an interview with the reporter, Eric Moskowitz.
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 07:42 PM
Apr 2013

Every reporter in the Western Hemishere wanted to talk to this guy. Wonder how Moskowitz got to him...

jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
53. Maybe through James Alen Fox, who also writes for the globe
Sat Apr 27, 2013, 05:33 PM
Apr 2013
Danny spoke softly but steadily in a 2 1/2 hour interview at his Cambridge apartment with a Globe reporter and a Northeastern criminology professor, James Alan Fox , who had counseled Danny after the former graduate student approached his engineering adviser at Northeastern.
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