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StandingInLeftField

(972 posts)
Thu Apr 25, 2013, 07:45 AM Apr 2013

U.S gives big, secret push to internet surveillance

Source: cnet.com

Justice Department agreed to issue "2511 letters" immunizing AT&T and other companies participating in a cybersecurity program from criminal prosecution under the Wiretap Act, according to new documents obtained by the Electronic Privacy Information Center.

Senior Obama administration officials have secretly authorized the interception of communications carried on portions of networks operated by AT&T and other Internet service providers, a practice that might otherwise be illegal under federal wiretapping laws.

The secret legal authorization from the Justice Department originally applied to a cybersecurity pilot project in which the military monitored defense contractors' Internet links. Since then, however, the program has been expanded by President Obama to cover all critical infrastructure sectors including energy, healthcare, and finance starting June 12.

Read more: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57581161-38/u.s-gives-big-secret-push-to-internet-surveillance/



New news or old news? Good news or bad news?

Seems to be an awful lot of discretion being given over the definition of 'critical infrastructure.'
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U.S gives big, secret push to internet surveillance (Original Post) StandingInLeftField Apr 2013 OP
N-dimensional Chess zipplewrath Apr 2013 #1
....... Hotler Apr 2013 #2
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2013 #3
Security theater. They might as well go pound sand. bemildred Apr 2013 #4
Yet if you take the trouble to supply it yourself, woo me with science Apr 2013 #5
Well, a troublemaker for sure. bemildred Apr 2013 #6
What kind of people are in charge of this with the extraordinary suspicion of ordinary Americans? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #16
Time for Americans to start embracing encryption and TOR Kelvin Mace Apr 2013 #7
holder is doing more damage than dick cheney WRH2 Apr 2013 #8
First his justice dep't refuses to go after the Bush admin for warrantless wiretapping thesquanderer Apr 2013 #9
+1 forestpath Apr 2013 #11
We have a dem. We need a progressive liberal in the whitehouse. AAO Apr 2013 #12
Can't be much of a secret AardvarkAsparagus Apr 2013 #10
I thought Obama was supposed to be different? thefool_wa Apr 2013 #13
On the positive side, the Obama Administration really wants to listen to us. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #14
This is the merging of Corporate and Governmental power. There's a term for that. n/t yodermon Apr 2013 #15
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! OnyxCollie Apr 2013 #17

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
1. N-dimensional Chess
Thu Apr 25, 2013, 08:14 AM
Apr 2013

You just have to understand N-demensional chess.
Oh, and he isn't god, he can't force congress to do anything.
Besides, these are just letters, he doesn't really mean them.

Response to StandingInLeftField (Original post)

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
4. Security theater. They might as well go pound sand.
Thu Apr 25, 2013, 08:35 AM
Apr 2013

However, such incapability is not to be admitted, so we get these repeated attempts to intimidate the public with the obvious facts of the situation: you have NO privacy on the internet unless you take the trouble to supply it yourself.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
5. Yet if you take the trouble to supply it yourself,
Thu Apr 25, 2013, 08:47 AM
Apr 2013

you may be considered a potential terrorist.

Do You Like Online Privacy? You May Be a Terrorist
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002257966

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
6. Well, a troublemaker for sure.
Thu Apr 25, 2013, 08:53 AM
Apr 2013

If you are the sort of person who wants to avoid government interest, you might want to consider other steps besides encryption. Since we (you & I) are here, we clearly are not that sort of person.

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
16. What kind of people are in charge of this with the extraordinary suspicion of ordinary Americans?
Thu Apr 25, 2013, 12:00 PM
Apr 2013

With our luck, it's probably the same type of people who give free feel-ups at the airports.

thesquanderer

(11,972 posts)
9. First his justice dep't refuses to go after the Bush admin for warrantless wiretapping
Thu Apr 25, 2013, 09:20 AM
Apr 2013

and then he continues to do it himself.

I sure hope we get a Dem in the White House some day.

thefool_wa

(1,867 posts)
13. I thought Obama was supposed to be different?
Thu Apr 25, 2013, 10:39 AM
Apr 2013

The only thing that has changed in 5 years is the color of the guy in charge. (no that's not racist, just observing a fact). At what point will we recognize that exercising our right to vote and our right to speak out against these things are NEVER going to be enough to stop them.

The government and businesses of a nation working in collusion to subvert the laws and rights of the citizenry is one of the definitions of Fascism. It gets worse all the time and the potential to change things through political process is just an illusion. Eventually, we will have to ACTUALLY DO something to stop them.

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