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Omaha Steve

(99,582 posts)
Thu Apr 25, 2013, 07:03 AM Apr 2013

It hasn't just been cold, it's been record-setting cold

Source: Omaha World Herald

Nancy Gaarder

This month's miserable cold will carry a footnote as it leaves: record-setting.

In a what has been a colder-than-normal spring, the last half of April has been especially frigid.

In about the past week, 3,318 daily records have been set or matched across the United States for either the coldest night or the coldest day.

In Nebraska, 287 such daily records have been set or matched this month; in Iowa, the number is 172, according to the National Climatic Data Center.

FULL story at link.


Read more: http://www.omaha.com/article/20130425/NEWS/704259888/1685#it-hasn-t-just-been-cold-it-s-been-record-setting-cold




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It hasn't just been cold, it's been record-setting cold (Original Post) Omaha Steve Apr 2013 OP
Cue the Global Warming Deniers. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2013 #1
Funny you should mention that... GoCubsGo Apr 2013 #3
Yeah, because the windfall of "research grants" definitely outweighs fossil fuel profits. antigone382 Apr 2013 #14
"Billions and billions in research dollars". GoCubsGo Apr 2013 #15
certainly they don't spend billions on climate research NoMoreWarNow Apr 2013 #24
Here's some science for you rosesaylavee Apr 2013 #7
This cold is from the loss of the arctic's polar ice Botany Apr 2013 #10
I do feel like there is more extreme weather lately NoMoreWarNow Apr 2013 #25
Another thing to expect is more wind, more frequently, and more intense, not just hurricanes. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2013 #27
actually, they don't understand the difference between temperature and climate Skittles Apr 2013 #26
hmm, it hasn't seemed like an abnomally cold April to me NoMoreWarNow Apr 2013 #2
Well my hometown in Arkansas has seen some pretty cold low temperatures recently Art_from_Ark Apr 2013 #4
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2013 #5
A hotter climate is a less stable one. Civilization2 Apr 2013 #6
We're having the driest Spring on record Plucketeer Apr 2013 #8
Upstate SC, we're having a cooler and drier spring than usual. nt raccoon Apr 2013 #9
I'd love to have a colder than normal summer Gman Apr 2013 #11
We got down to 17 the other night--all my little leaf buds and spring blooms TwilightGardener Apr 2013 #12
A bit of tunnel vision in this graphic Aldo Leopold Apr 2013 #13
Here's a cool page from NOAA: snappyturtle Apr 2013 #16
Probably will stay colder until it turns to 90 overnite. leftyladyfrommo Apr 2013 #17
I my area, I've noticed in recent years, caseymoz Apr 2013 #18
Have you ever heard of statistical deviations? twinker Apr 2013 #19
Nobody in this thread HappyMe Apr 2013 #22
29 last night in Fayetteville, AR. My poor asparagus! sinkingfeeling Apr 2013 #20
No record-breaking cold here in Georgia. RebelOne Apr 2013 #21
March was the 10th warmest month since 1880, when records began Jake Izzy Apr 2013 #23

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,988 posts)
1. Cue the Global Warming Deniers.
Thu Apr 25, 2013, 07:10 AM
Apr 2013

Those who do not understand science do not understand the concept of "outliers"; either that or they are "out there lying".

GoCubsGo

(32,079 posts)
3. Funny you should mention that...
Thu Apr 25, 2013, 07:25 AM
Apr 2013

This little gem was in today's issue of the pile of crap known as my local newspaper:




Have I told you lately how much I hate these people?

antigone382

(3,682 posts)
14. Yeah, because the windfall of "research grants" definitely outweighs fossil fuel profits.
Thu Apr 25, 2013, 10:00 AM
Apr 2013

Those Koch brothers are in the wrong business!!!

GoCubsGo

(32,079 posts)
15. "Billions and billions in research dollars".
Thu Apr 25, 2013, 10:04 AM
Apr 2013

I wish. They don't spend billions and billions of dollars on scientific research, in general. This dumbass doesn't have a fucking clue.

 

NoMoreWarNow

(1,259 posts)
24. certainly they don't spend billions on climate research
Thu Apr 25, 2013, 08:54 PM
Apr 2013

maybe a billion, if that.

Total federal science research is in the $20-30 billion range depending how you count it.

rosesaylavee

(12,126 posts)
7. Here's some science for you
Thu Apr 25, 2013, 07:46 AM
Apr 2013
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2004/05mar_arctic/

A Chilling Possibility

March 5, 2004: Global warming could plunge North America and Western Europe into a deep freeze, possibly within only a few decades.

That's the paradoxical scenario gaining credibility among many climate scientists. The thawing of sea ice covering the Arctic could disturb or even halt large currents in the Atlantic Ocean. Without the vast heat that these ocean currents deliver--comparable to the power generation of a million nuclear power plants--Europe's average temperature would likely drop 5 to 10°C (9 to 18°F), and parts of eastern North America would be chilled somewhat less. Such a dip in temperature would be similar to global average temperatures toward the end of the last ice age roughly 20,000 years ago.

see captionRight: Retreating Arctic ice, 1979-2003, based on data collected by the Defense Meteorological Satellite Program (DMSP) Special Sensor Microwave Imager (SSMI).

Botany

(70,490 posts)
10. This cold is from the loss of the arctic's polar ice
Thu Apr 25, 2013, 08:48 AM
Apr 2013

Scientists link frozen spring to dramatic Arctic sea ice loss

Source: The Guardian

Climate scientists have linked the massive snowstorms and bitter spring weather now being experienced across Britain and large parts of Europe and North America to the dramatic loss of Arctic sea ice.

.......

"The sea ice is going rapidly. It's 80% less than it was just 30 years ago. There has been a dramatic loss. This is a symptom of global warming and it contributes to enhanced warming of the Arctic," said Jennifer Francis, research professor with the Rutgers Institute of Coastal and Marine Science.

According to Francis and a growing body of other researchers, the Arctic ice loss adds heat to the ocean and atmosphere which shifts the position of the jet stream – the high-altitude river of air that steers storm systems and governs most weather in northern hemisphere.

"This is what is affecting the jet stream and leading to the extreme weather we are seeing in mid-latitudes," she said. "It allows the cold air from the Arctic to plunge much further south. The pattern can be slow to change because the wave of the jet stream is getting bigger. It's now at a near record position, so whatever weather you have now is going to stick around," she said.

Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2013/mar/25/frozen-spring-arctic-sea-ice-loss
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NoMoreWarNow

(1,259 posts)
25. I do feel like there is more extreme weather lately
Thu Apr 25, 2013, 08:56 PM
Apr 2013

more high and lows and more precipitation and more drought.

 

NoMoreWarNow

(1,259 posts)
2. hmm, it hasn't seemed like an abnomally cold April to me
Thu Apr 25, 2013, 07:19 AM
Apr 2013

In Indiana, it's not until May that we really get away from cold nights.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
4. Well my hometown in Arkansas has seen some pretty cold low temperatures recently
Thu Apr 25, 2013, 07:30 AM
Apr 2013

In some places in northern Arkansas, there has been a late frost this late in the spring. That is unusual.

Response to NoMoreWarNow (Reply #2)

 

Civilization2

(649 posts)
6. A hotter climate is a less stable one.
Thu Apr 25, 2013, 07:40 AM
Apr 2013

This is an indication of global warming. Lets see where the global average for the year (or decade) is in recorded history of temperatures.

"Since 1901, the average surface temperature across the contiguous 48 states has risen at an average rate of 0.13°F per decade (1.3°F per century) (see Figure 1). Average temperatures have risen more quickly since the late 1970s (0.31 to 0.45°F per decade). Seven of the top 10 warmest years on record for the contiguous 48 states have occurred since 1990.
Worldwide, 2001-2010 was the warmest decade on record since thermometer-based observations began. Global average surface temperature has risen at an average rate of 0.14°F per decade since 1901 (see Figure 2), similar to the rate of warming within the contiguous 48 states. Since the late 1970s, however, the United States has warmed faster than the global rate.
Some parts of the United States have experienced more warming than others (see Figure 3). The North, the West, and Alaska have seen temperatures increase the most, while some parts of the Southeast have experienced little change. However, not all of these regional trends are statistically significant."

http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/science/indicators/weather-climate/temperature.html

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
8. We're having the driest Spring on record
Thu Apr 25, 2013, 08:25 AM
Apr 2013

here in central California. You know - the "Nations Salad Bowl". Farmers are looking a SIGNIFICANT reductions in water allotments as a result. They'll be forced to pump more groundwater to satisfy crops. I predict that alot of wells here will get sucked dry. It's a boom time for well drillers - though falling back on groundwater's just a stop-gap measure at best.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
12. We got down to 17 the other night--all my little leaf buds and spring blooms
Thu Apr 25, 2013, 09:53 AM
Apr 2013

are toast. I also have a job working outside all day, and the last two days were miserable. I miss spring.

Aldo Leopold

(685 posts)
13. A bit of tunnel vision in this graphic
Thu Apr 25, 2013, 09:57 AM
Apr 2013

It's a seven-day window of a slice of North America.

Here are NASA's global temperature anomaly maps for past month, the past four months, and the past year:

snappyturtle

(14,656 posts)
16. Here's a cool page from NOAA:
Thu Apr 25, 2013, 10:21 AM
Apr 2013
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/


Just hover mouse over entries in deep blue bars and see the
appropriate map pop up. Clicking on entry will enlarge map.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
17. Probably will stay colder until it turns to 90 overnite.
Thu Apr 25, 2013, 10:21 AM
Apr 2013

This happens every so many years. It is cold and then, wham, it's hot overnite.

At least we have some really nice flowering trees and bushes this year. So nice to see everything turning green again.

caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
18. I my area, I've noticed in recent years,
Thu Apr 25, 2013, 11:48 AM
Apr 2013

March tends to be hotter than usual, sometimes with strings of days in the 70s or 80s, but April cools down. This year, however, March and April have been about equal in temperature, with April maybe even being a little below March.

And the coolness of April means nothing to the heat of summer.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
21. No record-breaking cold here in Georgia.
Thu Apr 25, 2013, 12:12 PM
Apr 2013

We have had winters in the past that were in the single digits. This year the coldest temperatures were in the high 20s. Cold does not bother me in the least. I was probably a polar bear in a former life. I hate summer. I had enough of year-round summers when I lived in South Florida where I lived most of my life until I moved up here to the Atlanta area.

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