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Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 01:37 AM Apr 2013

Boston Bomb Suspect's Name Was on Classified Government Watch Lists

Source: Retuers

Boston bomb suspect's name was on classified government watch lists

April 24, 2013 12:53pm

WASHINGTON - The name of one of the Boston Marathon bombing suspects, Tamerlan Tsarnaev, was listed on the U.S. government's highly classified central database of people it views as potential terrorists. But the list is so vast that this did not mean authorities automatically kept close tabs on him, sources close to the bombing investigation said on Tuesday.

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The sources said Tamerlan Tsarnaev's details were entered into TIDE, a database maintained by the National Counterterrorism Center, because the FBI spoke to him in 2011 while investigating a Russian tip-off that he had become a follower of radical Islamists.

The FBI found nothing to suggest he was an active threat, but all the same placed his name on the "Terrorist Identities Datamart Environment" list. The FBI has not said what it did find about Tsarnaev.

But the database, which holds more than half a million names, is only a repository of information on people who U.S. authorities see as known, suspected or potential terrorists from around the world.

Read more: http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/305336/news/world/boston-bomb-suspect-s-name-was-on-classified-government-watch-lists

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elleng

(130,740 posts)
1. Easy to figure that this would happen,
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 01:40 AM
Apr 2013

and HomeLand Security knew of his comings and goings but didn't communicate with FBI/TIDE. TOO MUCH INFO!

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
8. They have an information overload. They collect too much information on too many people.
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 02:21 AM
Apr 2013

The information is useless because there is just too much of it.

That's what happens when you read everybody's e-mails.

I get e-mails from all these political groups. It's incredible and, frankly, I don't open most of them. But I don't want to take my name off a list just in case someone sends me something important.

My e-mails must be a nightmare for whoever collects all our e-mails. None of them are particularly shocking. It's just that there are so many of them.

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
9. Yeah but if they checked him out.
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 02:32 AM
Apr 2013

And he came back "clean" but they still thought he had enough potential to eventually be dangerous that they kept him on this "secret" list, they should have just tossed him out.

They denied him citizenship because of his potential after all. This whole thing is just getting weirder.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
10. I read that he was denied citizenship because of domestic violence or an accusation of
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 02:49 AM
Apr 2013

domestic violence. I may be wrong, but I thought that people on visas could be deported for domestic violence. Maybe he wasn't convicted. But if not, why was he denied citizenship? There may be another reason, but that is what I read.

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
11. Maybe they hope for these people to lead them to bigger fish.
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 02:58 AM
Apr 2013

And there just weren't any. While waiting for the lead he went and did this.

Of course, all this new information could also be wrong. With the way the corporate media was exposed last week, you really never know what to believe anymore.


msatty99

(540 posts)
3. Why the call for public assistance then?
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 01:49 AM
Apr 2013

I have not heard any explanation of why the FBI came out with these men's photos and asked for the public's 'help'.

The news reports that the FBI had been following the older brother for a few years. Then, we see this report that he
was on a 'watch' list.

I do not understand why they would need 'the public's help' if these are the circumstances of the older brother.

Warpy

(111,161 posts)
4. Not surprising
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 01:57 AM
Apr 2013

The list is so enormous as to be utterly useless. If the brothers hadn't had their pictures circulated and hadn't been planning more mayhem and had kept a low profile, it most likely would have been months before the FBI got around to checking them out.

What this country needs to do is secure international cooperation in shutting down "Inspire" and any clones that appear when it's gone.

PSPS

(13,580 posts)
5. "the list is so vast" "holds more than half a million names"
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 01:59 AM
Apr 2013
But the list is so vast that this did not mean authorities automatically kept close tabs on him

This is what happens when our surveillance society runs amok.
 

John2

(2,730 posts)
13. Rightwing nuts,
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 05:28 AM
Apr 2013

will keep a tab on anybody because some of them think everybody in the Democrat party are suspects. Anybody that speaks against their ideology is a potential threat. I don't live my life in fear. It is J Edgar Hoover all over again.

muxin

(98 posts)
14. Has anyone seen this?
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 09:10 AM
Apr 2013
http://imgur.com/a/Nx8EU#BriOquA

I'm not really into some kind of crazy conspiracy theory or such especially from an unreliable source like this, but I have to say it really bothers me. Anyone has an opinion on this?

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
15. Now we know what Sister Sarah's been doing ....
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 09:59 AM
Apr 2013

She's working undercover for Homeland Security ... after all, she CAN see Russia from her house ...

cynzke

(1,254 posts)
16. Senate Bill
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 11:19 AM
Apr 2013

A senate bill has been introduced to require background checks on black powder purchases. Had a bill of this nature been in place when Tsarnaev purchased explosives at that fireworks store in New Hampshire on Feb. 6, wonder if that would have triggered an alert with Homeland Security/FBI? Someone on this watch list is trying to buy explosives.....hello!

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
18. I don't think fireworks require a background check.
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 05:22 PM
Apr 2013

Even under that black powder provision. If he was buying raw black powder yeah but not bottle rockets or basic mortars.

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