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maddezmom

(135,060 posts)
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 09:33 PM Apr 2013

Lance Armstrong Accused of Defrauding U.S. in Complaint

Source: Bloomberg

Former champion cyclist Lance Armstrong defrauded the U.S. by using banned substances, the government said in a complaint filed under the False Claims Act that joins a lawsuit brought by his ex-teammate Floyd Landis.

The Justice Department, in the complaint filed today in federal court in Washington, brought six counts of false claims, fraud and unjust enrichment against Armstrong, his team manager Johan Bruyneel and team owner Tailwind Sports Corp. An additional breach of contract claim was brought against Tailwind.

The government, which told the court in February that it would join the Landis suit, alleges the U.S. paid about $40 million in false claims through the team’s contract with the U.S. Postal Service from 1998 through 2004. Tailwind used Postal Service sponsorship fees to pay Armstrong’s salary of $17.9 million during those years, according to the complaint. The U.S. is seeking triple damages.

“Throughout the term of the USPS’s sponsorship of the team, defendants made numerous false statements denying that the team had engaged in any prohibited practices,” the government alleges in the complaint.

Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-23/u-s-files-false-claims-complaint-against-lance-armstrong.html

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Lance Armstrong Accused of Defrauding U.S. in Complaint (Original Post) maddezmom Apr 2013 OP
Good. Blue_In_AK Apr 2013 #1
Why is he a jerk? harmonicon Apr 2013 #4
I don't disagree with your post Blue_In_AK Apr 2013 #6
I'm sure that all of these things have an effect on each other. harmonicon Apr 2013 #7
He's a jerk because of how he bullied everyone around him groundloop Apr 2013 #9
That's what he was paid to do. (nt) harmonicon Apr 2013 #11
That's bullshit... Blue_Tires Apr 2013 #12
I'm not saying it's excusable, but I don't think "everybody else" came clean either. harmonicon Apr 2013 #13
Holy cow - almost 18 million dollars. Sheesh... calimary Apr 2013 #2
huh, how quickly they go after him... Javaman Apr 2013 #3
Kissinger comes to mind Ezlivin Apr 2013 #5
Yes dawn frenzy adams Apr 2013 #8
shhhh don't say such things about our overlords.... Evasporque Apr 2013 #10
I'm with you about the worship of athletes tonekat Apr 2013 #14

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
4. Why is he a jerk?
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 10:13 PM
Apr 2013

He was asked to do the impossible. When he seemed to do the impossible, everybody loved him. All of the top competitors were "cheating," but it was something needed to make them do what the audience wanted. I think it's basically the same as doping in baseball. It's clear that it's going on, and we reward it so long as we're able to convince ourselves with the very slimmest doubt that it's not going on, but once exposed we're supposed to be horrified. What's someone in that position supposed to do? They can't do both things at once.

I think it's time we stop paying athletes SO MUCH FUCKING MONEY, and also time we stop worshipping them as supermen, because we get pretty angry when we have to face the fact that they're just normal ol' people, with all of the physical, psychological, and emotional limitations and failings as everyone else.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
6. I don't disagree with your post
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 10:38 PM
Apr 2013

in a lot of respects, but what I don't like about him is the way he lied and lied and lied and bullied his fellow teammates. And, honestly, I was never a fan even before I knew he was doping. He just seems arrogant and obnoxious to me.


Ed. And I 100% agree with you about the money. There's no reason for athletes to be paid as much as they are.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
7. I'm sure that all of these things have an effect on each other.
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 10:47 PM
Apr 2013

Maybe not only being a great athlete (which there is no question he is), but also being a great liar made him what we wanted, you know? When the lying (sometimes with a wink-wink, nudge-nudge) is supported with tens of millions of dollars for years, that must make it difficult to stop.

groundloop

(11,513 posts)
9. He's a jerk because of how he bullied everyone around him
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 08:42 AM
Apr 2013

Bullied, lied, whatever it took to keep the coverup going.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
12. That's bullshit...
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 12:03 PM
Apr 2013

You may be able to excuse Armstrong with the "everybody else was doing it" cop-out, but at least "everybody else" came clean when exposed...Nothing excuses the careers he ruined, the employees he blackballed out of the sport, the threats, intimidation, and bunch of defamation lawsuits he has pending against former friends who tried to tell the truth....

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
13. I'm not saying it's excusable, but I don't think "everybody else" came clean either.
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 01:09 PM
Apr 2013

When you're paid to be a cult of personality, it's your job to maintain that cult of personality. I would guess that the vast majority of people involved in similar illegal activities didn't have that on them and will never face any negative consequences of their actions.

Javaman

(62,500 posts)
3. huh, how quickly they go after him...
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 09:57 PM
Apr 2013

not that he doesn't deserve it, but yet the wall street crooks still walk the streets free men and women.



Evasporque

(2,133 posts)
10. shhhh don't say such things about our overlords....
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 09:40 AM
Apr 2013

Lance is the whipping boy of the hour...we must lash out at him...

tonekat

(1,811 posts)
14. I'm with you about the worship of athletes
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 01:23 PM
Apr 2013

And the ridiculous pay they receive, usually with a criminal record close behind.

If only the U.S. would appreciate teachers and scientists as much. Too busy watching reality TV I guess.

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