Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 07:39 PM Apr 2013

Mother Of Boston Bombing Suspect: ‘If They Are Going To Kill Him, I Don’t Care’

Last edited Tue Apr 23, 2013, 08:34 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: TPM

IGOR BOBIC 7:04 PM EDT, TUESDAY APRIL 23, 2013

The mother of Dzhokhar Tsarvaev, the 19-year-old Boston marathon bombing suspect, told CNN in a very distraught phone interview aired Tuesday that her sons were framed.

"You know what I think?" she said. "I think now they will try to make my Dzhokhar guilty because they took away his voice, his ability to talk to the world. You know why they did that? They did it because -- because they did not want the truth to come out."

She added: "If they are going to kill him, I don't care. My oldest one has been killed so I don't care. I don't care if my youngest son is going to be killed today. So I want the world to hear this. And I don't care if I am going to get killed too. Okay?"

Tsarvaev is currently in "fair" condition and is responding to officials as the investigation continues. According to the Washington Post, he told investigators Tuesday that U.S. wars abroad in Iraq and Afghanistan motivated him and his brother, Tamerlan, to carry out the attacks that killed three and injured at least 180 people last week.

###

Read more: http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/mother-of-boston-bombing-suspect-if-they-are



Boston bombing suspects' mother subject to arrest if she returns to U.S.

By JOSH GERSTEIN | 4/22/13 6:55 PM EDT

FRAMINGHAM, Mass.—The mother of the suspects in the Boston Marathon bombing reportedly wants to return from Russia to the United States to visit her surviving, badly-wounded son, but she may get a rude reception if she does come back: being placed under arrest.

Court personnel here say there's an outstanding warrant for Zubeidat Tsarnaeva, 45, stemming from an incident last June in which she allegedly shoplifted more than $1600-worth of designer dresses from a Natick, Mass. Lord & Taylor store and damaged another couple of dresses worth more than $300. The clothes bore the labels of designers like Adrianna Papell, Tadoohi, Lauren and Oleg Cassini, court and police records show.

Tsarnaeva was arrested June 13, 2012 and charged with one felony count of felony larceny and two felony counts of wanton destruction of property. She gave her marital status as "divorced." While she provided beauty services at times in her Cambridge home, she listed her occupation as "unemployed." She was bailed out for $240 cash that night and arraigned the following day.

After a few continuances last summer and fall, Tsarnaeva failed to show up for an October 25 status hearing. A Russian interpreter was on hand for the session, court records show. Judge Robert Greco issued a default warrant for her arrest and ordered her bail money forfeited. (Some court records list the bail amount as $200.)

A court clerk said Monday that the warrant for Tsarnaeva's arrest remains outstanding.

full article:
http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2013/04/boston-bombing-suspects-mother-subject-to-arrest-if-162347.html
49 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Mother Of Boston Bombing Suspect: ‘If They Are Going To Kill Him, I Don’t Care’ (Original Post) DonViejo Apr 2013 OP
Sounds like a wounded mom who's reacting; I babylonsister Apr 2013 #1
i also wouldn't put it in the headline Enrique Apr 2013 #6
... Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #7
I don't feel sorry for her in the least. She sounds horrible. SleeplessinSoCal Apr 2013 #21
Exactly. musical_soul Apr 2013 #33
Sounds like she has snapped. tblue Apr 2013 #37
A dominating, controlling mother... sofa king Apr 2013 #40
Exactly. And the woman who used Zubeidat for facials said she started going all extremist. KittyWampus Apr 2013 #47
She sounds like a piece of shit, actually. Codeine Apr 2013 #22
true, it sounds like she bought into that martyr shit big time. that ain;t good. bettyellen Apr 2013 #35
the mother took part in radicalizing her younger son. At least according to the uncle. KittyWampus Apr 2013 #46
She is the crazy who turned him into a conspiracy nutcase and added in the radical Islamic influence dkf Apr 2013 #2
Russians grew up to not trust any media jberryhill Apr 2013 #10
Well now she can look around and see what she did. dkf Apr 2013 #16
I'd cut mom some slack jberryhill Apr 2013 #19
Uncle Ruslan says she is the cause. I believe him. dkf Apr 2013 #23
Sounds to me like he's protecting himself. tblue Apr 2013 #38
While I believe the uncle leftynyc Apr 2013 #41
considering the father chooses to go to a MODERATE mosque says volumes. KittyWampus Apr 2013 #48
America: Get a frigging mirror! /nt TheMadMonk Apr 2013 #27
And that differs from the US only in that the Soviets knew they were being lied to Fumesucker Apr 2013 #42
If she wasn't involved I feel sorry for her. Alone in Russia with the press pestering her constantly Sunlei Apr 2013 #3
The nuts didn't fall far from the tree. nt geek tragedy Apr 2013 #4
Fuck the media. Why are they harassing the parents and what else would they say, they are in denial still_one Apr 2013 #5
I have had to deal with the media over what became an international story... DonViejo Apr 2013 #8
They are the ones putting themselves out there with the conspiracy theories JI7 Apr 2013 #12
In some cases yes davidpdx Apr 2013 #29
ok, in that case she is an idiot still_one Apr 2013 #30
I've been very critical of her first interview with RT davidpdx Apr 2013 #31
because the mother is directly involved in radicalizing her sons. She helped create this mess KittyWampus Apr 2013 #49
Well, when you say shit like this you start to understand why two of her sons had the mental TwilightGardener Apr 2013 #9
Poor woman. She seemed a little neurotic and off the wall to begin with. Cleita Apr 2013 #11
It was the mom who pushed Tamerlan into religion. SunSeeker Apr 2013 #13
Didn't the mother bring Misha in? dkf Apr 2013 #17
Dunno. But she certainly encouraged the relationship. SunSeeker Apr 2013 #25
She pushed him into religion womanofthehills Apr 2013 #45
Interviewing a grieving mother... moonlady0623 Apr 2013 #14
She is the primary cause of what happened. dkf Apr 2013 #18
bullcrap. all she had to do was say no. it's that simple. cali Apr 2013 #34
Go rob another department store, you kook (n/m) ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2013 #15
So is Mrs. T admitting she a failed parent? N/t alp227 Apr 2013 #20
That woman is nuttier than a fruitcake. kestrel91316 Apr 2013 #24
That is the voice of a mother's despair agent46 Apr 2013 #26
I agree with you. John2 Apr 2013 #28
She might be as crazy as her kids are. musical_soul Apr 2013 #32
And......ready for this?.......Allahu akbar! arewenotdemo Apr 2013 #44
Lord & Taylor supplied the initial footage that helped ID the perps. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #36
Grief-stricken mothers all over the world...... DeSwiss Apr 2013 #39
The family needs to stop talking. hamsterjill Apr 2013 #43

babylonsister

(170,963 posts)
1. Sounds like a wounded mom who's reacting; I
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 07:41 PM
Apr 2013

wouldn't put a lot of weight on anything she says at this point. I just feel sorry for her.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
6. i also wouldn't put it in the headline
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 07:46 PM
Apr 2013

for the reason you say. Everyone's going to look at that quote and react to it.

SleeplessinSoCal

(8,996 posts)
21. I don't feel sorry for her in the least. She sounds horrible.
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 08:44 PM
Apr 2013

And she only makes matters worse in the era of extremism and cultural animosity. She doesn't seem all that motherly either. I don't even think that she is truly a woman of her faith, or she wouldn't speak out this way.

musical_soul

(775 posts)
33. Exactly.
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 11:28 PM
Apr 2013

I understand that she's in pain, but what type of mother says she doesn't care if her son dies? There is nothing in the world that would make me stop loving a child of mine or wanting them to live.

tblue

(16,350 posts)
37. Sounds like she has snapped.
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 02:47 AM
Apr 2013

It'd be hard for any mom not to lose control when facing a nightmare like this. Maybe she loved her older son a whole lot more than the surviving one. Or maybe she is just so damned pissed at everybody she is spewing the most hateful invective she can think of because, really, there's else nothing in the world she can do. She's gone off the deep end. I'd cut her some slack. I feel sorry for her really. She's a victim too.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
40. A dominating, controlling mother...
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 04:01 AM
Apr 2013

... Who is starting to realize that her own behavior created these monsters, and now she must revert to the "mama tried" defense in order to distance herself from their crimes.

A nasty thing said like the above needs some sort of evidence, but right now all I can supply is an article, the headline of which ends in a Cavuto-mark.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2313076/Tamerlan-Dzhokhar-Tsarnaeva-Did-controlling-mother-Boston-bombers-lead-radicalization.html

Ruslan Tsarni claimed that Zubeidat allowed a firebrand cleric into their house to give one-on-one sermons to Tamerlan over the kitchen table during which he claimed he could talk to demons and perform exorcisms.

Family friends also told MailOnline that the boys’ father Anzor never stood up to his wife and revealed that she was the ‘boss’ of their house.


Take it with a grain of salt until the story further develops, but it's beginning to look as if Mom had a large role in the direction those guys chose....

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
47. Exactly. And the woman who used Zubeidat for facials said she started going all extremist.
Thu Apr 25, 2013, 01:58 AM
Apr 2013

the mother courted disaster and got it.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
46. the mother took part in radicalizing her younger son. At least according to the uncle.
Thu Apr 25, 2013, 01:55 AM
Apr 2013

She bears a significant responsibility for what happened.

 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
2. She is the crazy who turned him into a conspiracy nutcase and added in the radical Islamic influence
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 07:42 PM
Apr 2013

Shame on her.

What a crappy mother.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
10. Russians grew up to not trust any media
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 07:53 PM
Apr 2013

Conspiracy theories are popular with a lot of former Soviet people.

Look at Orly Taitz.

These people grew up, unfortunately, in a world where gossip was usually more accurate than news.

 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
16. Well now she can look around and see what she did.
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 08:34 PM
Apr 2013

Of course she thinks both the kids are framed and will attempt to infect even more people.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
19. I'd cut mom some slack
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 08:42 PM
Apr 2013

It seems that a lot of people who knew Dzhokhar are likewise surprised. I can't fathom what my reaction would be to something like this and neither, thankfully, can most parents.

 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
23. Uncle Ruslan says she is the cause. I believe him.
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 08:47 PM
Apr 2013

No slack for her. With a decent mother, both those kids would have a future.

tblue

(16,350 posts)
38. Sounds to me like he's protecting himself.
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 02:59 AM
Apr 2013

Can hardly blame him. With relatives who've done something this awful, it's in the uncle's interest to distance himself. Not saying he's lying, but he had to be terrified when the press and the law showed up asking him questions about a crime of this magnitude.

We don't know much about the mom yet, and no one has said yet that she's at all implicated in these crimes. She's in bad shape emotionally, naturally. The truth will come out soon enough.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
41. While I believe the uncle
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 04:56 AM
Apr 2013

is indeed outraged by what his nephews did, the fact he is putting more blame on his sister in law than on his brother could be nothing more than one (blood) family member defending another. We may never know what made suspect #1 snap.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
42. And that differs from the US only in that the Soviets knew they were being lied to
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 06:20 AM
Apr 2013

Our media lies are more slickly produced but they are still lies.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
3. If she wasn't involved I feel sorry for her. Alone in Russia with the press pestering her constantly
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 07:44 PM
Apr 2013

still_one

(91,962 posts)
5. Fuck the media. Why are they harassing the parents and what else would they say, they are in denial
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 07:46 PM
Apr 2013

I guarenteed if one of their msm kids did something bad, they would not harass one of their own

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
8. I have had to deal with the media over what became an international story...
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 07:50 PM
Apr 2013

involving me. I had the right to say "no" and it was respected. Mom has the right to say "no" also.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
29. In some cases yes
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 10:00 PM
Apr 2013

But the mother went on RT News very soon after the arrest of her son and willingly did an interview. The mother has been willingly doing interviews as has the uncle who is outspoken against what his nephew did. It seems like the father did get pushed into being interviewed when he was in his car.

The mother's sole motive is to spread her conspiracy theory.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
9. Well, when you say shit like this you start to understand why two of her sons had the mental
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 07:50 PM
Apr 2013

and emotional capacity to pull off a religion-inspired terror attack. Everyone's framing my kids, everyone's against them, it's unfair, I don't care if we all die today! Wonder if any of them were rational, besides Uncle Ruslan.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
11. Poor woman. She seemed a little neurotic and off the wall to begin with.
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 07:58 PM
Apr 2013

Now that she's in mourning for her family, one dead, the other who probably will be dead, but not before all the family laundry will be aired for all to see, I think anything could come out of her mouth at this juncture. She was not the person who set off bombs or taught her sons to make bombs, so to blame her for what happened is really kind of cruel. Yes, I know the other victims families are in mourning too. It's just a sad situation all the way around.

SunSeeker

(51,371 posts)
13. It was the mom who pushed Tamerlan into religion.
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 08:14 PM
Apr 2013

"Once known as a quiet teenager who aspired to be a boxer, Tamerlan Tsarnaev delved deeply into religion in recent years at the urging of his mother, who feared he was slipping into a life of marijuana, girls and alcohol. Tamerlan quit drinking and smoking, gave up boxing because he thought it was in opposition to his religion, and began pushing the rest of his family to pursue stricter ways, his mother recalled."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324235304578437131250259170.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_LEFTTopStories

And once he got into religion, he went overboard, like new converts in any religion sometimes to do. It appears he was then particularly radicalized by another recent convert to Islam he met in Cambridge, an older man by the name of Misha.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/23/tamerlan-tsarnaev-mysterious-muslim-radical_n_3141919.html

It is pretty apparent Tamerlan was lost and looking for meaning in his life. His family and the older adults in his life failed him, just like he failed his younger brother. But that is not an excuse for their actions, just an explanation. We all have people fail us, yet we don't blow up innocents. It takes a psychopath to do that.

SunSeeker

(51,371 posts)
25. Dunno. But she certainly encouraged the relationship.
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 08:52 PM
Apr 2013

"It was late, like midnight," Khozhugov said. "His father comes in and says, `Why is Misha here so late and still in our house?' He asked it politely. Tamerlan was so much into the conversation he didn't listen."

Khozhugov said Tamerlan's mother, Zubeidat, told him not to worry.

"`Don't interrupt them,'" Khozhugov recalled the mother saying. "`They're talking about religion and good things. Misha is teaching him to be good and nice.'"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/23/tamerlan-tsarnaev-mysterious-muslim-radical_n_3141919.html

womanofthehills

(8,584 posts)
45. She pushed him into religion
Thu Apr 25, 2013, 01:50 AM
Apr 2013

but did you see her mug shot for "shoplifting". Sounds like she has a personality disorder big time.

moonlady0623

(193 posts)
14. Interviewing a grieving mother...
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 08:19 PM
Apr 2013

....should result in immediate shunning, stoning, and entry into a new level of hell. How inappropraite.

 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
18. She is the primary cause of what happened.
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 08:37 PM
Apr 2013

If we want to know what radicalized them, mom is #1.

Did you see her screaming on the TV that they were killed because they are Muslim?

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
34. bullcrap. all she had to do was say no. it's that simple.
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 11:29 PM
Apr 2013

she's seeking this publicity out. voraciously.

agent46

(1,262 posts)
26. That is the voice of a mother's despair
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 09:02 PM
Apr 2013

You people who judge her can just shut the hell up. Have you never known despair?

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
28. I agree with you.
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 09:44 PM
Apr 2013

The father made some of the same pleas. I hear two people who love their kids and don't believe they would do such bad things. It sounds like many American parents that don't believe their kids would do something bad. Some people are still trying to look for a Terrorist group assisting them. They are in disbelief, that people can act out against this country for any cause.

Right wing extremists do it all the time, religious zealots do it and Leftist groups. Even gun nuts have threatened to take causes into their own hands. I don't think they did it as some thrill. I think they did it because they thought they were striking back at what they saw as an oppressor. I get the feeling, from certain phrases they used. Now, I'm American and native born. I've also served in the military. My whole family has their roots in America ever since its founding. So I dare anybody to consider me anything else. I'm not religious either. In fact I blame religious extremism for many of the problems in this world. And not just Islam. So I can see all sides. I disagree with the current Foreign Policy of our country because I think it is bias and many times racist. I think religion and racism does effect it. And I look no further than some of the characters we elect to Congress. Can anybody honestly claim we do not have a flawed Congress or characters in all branches of government, even on the U.S. Supreme Court? And if you claim there isn't, than you are being dishonest. So how can you blame this woman?

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
39. Grief-stricken mothers all over the world......
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 03:07 AM
Apr 2013
A Yemeni man named Farea al-Muslimi told a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on Tuesday that a U.S. drone strike on his small town of Wessab "tore my heart," much as the Boston Marathon bombings upset Americans.

"Most of the world has never heard of Wessab. But just six days ago, my village was struck by a drone, in an attack that terrified thousands of simple, poor farmers," Muslimi said in prepared testimony. "The drone strike and its impact tore my heart, much as the tragic bombings in Boston last week tore your hearts and also mine."

More


hamsterjill

(15,214 posts)
43. The family needs to stop talking.
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 01:17 PM
Apr 2013

Frankly, I'm getting sick of listening to them and sick of the media's interest in them. I want to hear more about the survivors and their families, and the families of the victims who passed! I want to know how they are coping and what is being done for them.

In the family of the bombers' defense, I do sometimes wonder if the language barrier has convaluded some of the points that they are trying to get across, but they seem to have a pretty good command of the English language.



Latest Discussions»Latest Breaking News»Mother Of Boston Bombing ...