Boston Bombing Suspect Traveled to Russia Through NYC Last Year
Source: WNBC television (New York City)
Boston Marathon bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev flew in and out of John F. Kennedy Airport last year and was out of the country for six months, and investigators said they want to know if he received any terror training while he was overseas, NBC 4 New York has learned.
Travel records obtained by NBC 4 New York show Tsarnaev left New York on Jan. 12, 2012 for Sheremetyevo, Russia. He stayed overseas and returned to JFK on July 17.
The travel documents show a photo of a bearded Tsarnaev. The documents show the terror suspect was born on Oct. 21, 1986 and first entered the U.S. through JFK on July 19, 2003.
The documents show it was not until Friday that U.S. officials determined he was a person or instrument that may pose a threat to the security of the United States.
Read more: http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Boston-Marathon-Bombing-Suspects-JFK-NYC-Travel-International-203787721.html
WilliamPitt
(58,179 posts)*brain cramp*
LisaL
(44,972 posts)idwiyo
(5,113 posts)WilliamPitt
(58,179 posts)Not brain-cramping at the OP. Just a strange way to hear it.
godai
(2,902 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)LisaL
(44,972 posts)In the North Caucasus region.
cliffordu
(30,994 posts)idwiyo
(5,113 posts)Wouldn't be surprised, but more likely its just a sloppy reporting.
LisaL
(44,972 posts)Where did he go from there, that is the question.
LisaL
(44,972 posts)riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)Chechens have been found fighting along AQ in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya etc. and most of them were trained in Pakistan.
He flew into an airport near Moscow but then where did he go? 6 months is a long time to leave your new baby girl (yes, he has a now 2 year old girl).
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)Pakistan is the Oxford or Harvard of terrorist education. Actively supported by the government of Pakistan and its ISI, almost every jihadi terrorist makes the pilgrimage there.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)LisaL
(44,972 posts)His father is in Dagestan.
Nihil
(13,508 posts)> Travel records obtained by NBC 4 New York show Tsarnaev left New York on Jan. 12, 2012
By what authority does some crappy TV station manage to extract travel documentation
for a complete stranger over a year ago (and so quickly too)?
So much for privacy laws in the Homeland ...
Myrina
(12,296 posts)No wonder the world hates us.
LisaL
(44,972 posts)that he was homesick. Makes perfect sense.
Mz Pip
(27,430 posts)Maybe he should have just stayed there.
Brooklyns_Finest
(789 posts)No need to defend this guy now. If it walks like a duck...
ljm2002
(10,751 posts)...(and assuming that authorities are correct in identifying him as one of the perps) it seems quite logical to assume that he may have gone there for training in terror techniques. Many commentators pointed out that the pressure cooker IEDs were commonly used in Pakistan and Afghanistan.
It does not mean we should assume anyone making such a trip is doing it for nefarious purposes.
But it would be foolish not to find out more about his trip home, under the circumstances, and this is one of the questions that has to be asked. There still are terrorists, and terrorist training camps. There are still Islamic jihadists who want to kill Americans. It does no good to pretend otherwise.
Now don't get me started on whether our responses in Afghanistan and Iraq after 9/11 were well considered, or whether our efforts to eradicate terrorism and terrorist training camps have been smart and effective...
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HowardTheDuck
(8 posts)Is anyone looking into what it means that these two Russian/Chechnyan brothers were supposedly living in the the same city as the Russian spies/illegals? Remember that story? Those Russian Illegals as they were called, had been also based in Cambridge, Mass. It is said that the FBI allowed them to roam around the country for about 10 years. From about 2001 to 2010. In the process of roaming around for 10 years, it was found that the Russians mainly targeted and tried to attach themselves to Democrats. What a convenient arrangement for Republicans?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegals_Program
In 2001, the FBI was penetrated by Russian spy Robert Hanssen. Robert Hanssen was said to be attending the same Roman Catholic church as FBI director Luis Freeh. Robert Hanssen, the Russian spy...he was on videotape having sex with his wife... allegedly he made the tape himself and he gave it to others for some odd reason. Hannsen also made a trip to Hong Kong with a stripper and took her to the FBI's Quantico office.
Freeh is memorable for basically halting all deep investigations into America's terror attacks in the 90s and pinning all blame on lone nutters. America's series of terror attacks started right after Ronnie Raygun's collapse of the USSR and the beginnings of the European Union headed by Germany. 23 years later, in 2013 it looks like it is the USA's turn to bite the big one and collapse. I mean, that's what it looks like is going on right? A major bombing, terror event, mass shooting about every couple of weeks? Media just continues to pretend its all just a series of not so happy coincidences. Right, a mass shooting occurring in Boston at the same exact time as ricin mailing to the president and others, and a massive fertilizer explosion that looks like a nuke explosion in Texas, oh sure, that happens every day everywhere. Nothing strange there. Can't count on the bobbleheads in the media to put together a 10 piece puzzle, let alone do any type of deep investigation into why America looks more and more like Iraq. Even with the USA under full and sustained collapse into a police state with drones and armoured cars and hundreds of cops prowling around Boston telling people to stay indoors, implementing martial law while looking for ONE kid, the media can't rouse itself to report jack shit. The economy has already collapse in the USA... next up Democratic government? Seems so. It's been a mostly slow death for Democracy in the USA. In truth it started about 1963. Got a big shot in the arm in 2001 and has been picking up pace ever since.
The FBI guy heading up the Boston bomber case right now? He was the same guy who flew to Europe to make the prisoner swap with the Russians to trade 10 Russian spies for 4 American CIA... looks like the Russians got a deal. Richard DesLauriers is the FBI SAIC in question. He is also Roman Catholic, if that means anything. So today in 2013 we have another clown show being run where a single kid is being hunted by half of the country and no one can seem to catch him. Doesn't matter that all of Boston was crawling with cops and helicopters and armoured vehicles, and scent sniffing dogs. No, the kid's got the magics and has disappeared into thin air. Amazing. Meanwhile, the idiots in the media feed us black screen videos of hardcore police shootouts with the fugitive... I mean, there is audio of the shootout... just no actual video imagery of the shootout. Like there has so far been no release of video of the bombers placing the bombs.
I find it really peculiar, that even with half of Rome burning(Boston, Texas)... the U.S. media still can't figure out how to examine the bigger picture that is forming. It is almost like the USA wants to see itself collapse into a police state.
Are these two Chechynan guys the real bombers or are they patsies??? Where is live video feed that shows them actually planting the bombs? How hard would it be to show that??? Are they really Muslims? Or are they Muslim converts?
A dude named Johannes Hirn has spread the message far and wide over the internet about the Muslimness of the Boston bombers. These quotes came from him :
Boston Black Hat Bomber: I Dont Have a Single American Friend
"Tamerlan says he doesn't drink or smoke anymore: 'God said no alcohol.'"
"Tamerlan says his girlfriend is half Portuguese, half Italian girlfriend and converted to Islam: 'She's beautiful, man!'"
Who is Johannes Hirn?
A photographer and astrophysicist who apparently runs a blog titled : "Stories that TWIST YOUR MIND"
Mind Bender Johannes Hirn on lying :
Does it matter that it was a lie?
Well, if you can't find a relevant anecdote in your recent past, in my mind, it's OK to make up a fairy tale, as long as you tell people that it's just a story. Even if you only say so at the end, it's important to be honest!
Maybe I'm too picky, or maybe it's the journalist in me speaking, but as much as I love making up story, I always make it clear when they're bogus!
www.johanneshirn.com/blog.html
HowardTheDuck
(8 posts)The Toronto based Aunt says she thinks the brothers have been framed by the FBI. She also says in the video below that she is the reason that the two alleged Tsarnaev bomber brothers came to the USA. She filled out the refugee paperwork for them. In the video the Aunt says SHE emmigrated to Canada in 2001 after being in the USA filling out paperwork to emmigrate to Canada...she said that she filled out the paperwork for refugee status on the bomber brothers... interesting... 2001 would be about the same time that the FBI was penetrated by Russian spy Robert and the Russian illegals program based in Cambridge Mass and in Canada was getting started.
Meanwhile in Boston, looks like the cops captured the suspect:
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/19/17823265-its-over-boston-bombing-captured-alive-police-say
Here's something to chew on... remember the Harry Burkardt guy? He set fire to a bunch of sites in Los Angeles? Had apparently been through Germany and Chechnya? Born in Grozny Chechnya? He and mother took up refugee status in Canada just like the Tsarnaev family? Starting to look a bit like a pattern?
Something odd is going on here. It seems to involve destabilization of the U.S.A. And it seems for some reason the FBI is unable or unwilling to fight it.