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kpete

(71,965 posts)
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:05 AM Apr 2013

NPR: A 3rd man, who authorities believe was an accomplice of the bombing suspects, has been arrested

Source: NPR

Update at 7:30 a.m. ET. Arrest Of Third Person:

A third man, who authorities believe was an accomplice of the bombing suspects, has been arrested according to NPR's Dina Temple-Raston. He may be the man, seen in videos earlier Friday, who police ordered to strip naked and was then put in the back of a patrol car.

Read more: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/04/19/177885868/shots-explosions-heard-as-boston-manhunt-continues

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NPR: A 3rd man, who authorities believe was an accomplice of the bombing suspects, has been arrested (Original Post) kpete Apr 2013 OP
Good. I figured there was at least one more. slackmaster Apr 2013 #1
I thought that man was cleared..... chillfactor Apr 2013 #2
What about the blonde guy face down that the cops backed away from Gin Apr 2013 #3
I kept wondering about that, too. deurbano Apr 2013 #15
MSNBC was saying this person was not a suspect ... eppur_se_muova Apr 2013 #25
Hmmm....thanks....I thought he was shot.....what a crazyz night Gin Apr 2013 #31
See? This is what happens when you go after the people that did the crime. Aristus Apr 2013 #4
Yeah but, you can make more money by laying waste to innocent countries. RC Apr 2013 #5
Yep... IthinkThereforeIAM Apr 2013 #6
That is the way it should be treated. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #24
MSNBC has an 'article' : "Concern about Chechnya" ... Myrina Apr 2013 #8
Yeah, I saw that. Aristus Apr 2013 #9
That's the hook. Always entertaining with the news. freshwest Apr 2013 #32
Good analysis. daleo Apr 2013 #37
And it does not answer the most important question: Why did they, JDPriestly Apr 2013 #26
+ Infinity Octafish Apr 2013 #13
we clearly need to invade chechnya, no matter what. Voice for Peace Apr 2013 #18
The first World Trade Center bombing was handled by law enforcement and the second, devastating, byeya Apr 2013 #28
if the pubs were in charge... dawnie51 Apr 2013 #7
Well, two days ago they were calling to "glass Mecca". :eyes: Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2013 #12
Fortunately: freshwest Apr 2013 #38
No, we wouldn't be bombing Russia adieu Apr 2013 #16
only if we can grab their oil magical thyme Apr 2013 #36
Strange - that was 4 hours ago now, but it's not been widely reported muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #10
Why is the NRA spewing anything about this? SoapBox Apr 2013 #11
psst... NPR, not NRA. nt dionysus Apr 2013 #14
lol +1 Paul E Ester Apr 2013 #17
WOW! Talk about being an idiot! SoapBox Apr 2013 #20
I have posted some stupid stuff before too. Jamastiene Apr 2013 #22
Your response should have been, "Nevermind" ala. Emily Litella. nm rhett o rick Apr 2013 #23
When I first read the thread title... MoonchildCA Apr 2013 #27
Don't feel bad. My typos are everywhere, and sometimes they cause JDPriestly Apr 2013 #29
Plenty of space under the rock I've had to use on occasion. I blame my gaffes on my age or meds firenewt Apr 2013 #33
i read it as "NRA" on the first look also JI7 Apr 2013 #34
No worries. Just remember that the NRA is the gun manufacturer's lobbying organization... Orsino Apr 2013 #35
LOL! Bless your heart Soapbox...So many things are happening this week, it's easy tp get turned Ecumenist Apr 2013 #19
Good gawd... SoapBox Apr 2013 #21
Please don't feel badly - the Nefarious Rifle Assn has been running the news for months at least byeya Apr 2013 #30
I wondered what happened to that guy Mopar151 Apr 2013 #39

deurbano

(2,894 posts)
15. I kept wondering about that, too.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:10 PM
Apr 2013

After seeing the same footage (but with new commentary) this morning, I believe that may have been the "first suspect." I think he was dying/dead. (He arrived at the hospital in "cardiac arrest.&quot I wonder if his hair was dyed... or a wig... or if it was just the intensity of the spotlights that made it seem that fair. Also, I think they may have been playing that footage over and over when I thought it was all in "real time" last night.

eppur_se_muova

(36,247 posts)
25. MSNBC was saying this person was not a suspect ...
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 01:15 PM
Apr 2013

just someone who was in the area when gunfire started .... police had him lying face down until they could get the situation under control. This info was relayed from police.

Aristus

(66,294 posts)
4. See? This is what happens when you go after the people that did the crime.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:12 AM
Apr 2013

Much more effective than dreaming up reasons to invade an oil-rich nation that had nothing to do with it.

No aircraft carrier, no flight suit, no Mission Accomplished! banners; simply justice.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
5. Yeah but, you can make more money by laying waste to innocent countries.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:17 AM
Apr 2013

And this time the neocons were not in charge either.

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,075 posts)
6. Yep...
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:23 AM
Apr 2013

...what a coincidence. Didn't then Senator John Kerry say to treat terrorism as a law enforcement concern, way back when?

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
24. That is the way it should be treated.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 01:13 PM
Apr 2013

The father of these boys still seems to be in Russia. Why were these two young men in the US without their families?

People who knew the younger one in high school seemed to think highly of him. What happened to him? What happened to these two young men to change them from ambitious kids to killers? to terrorists?

Was it politics? Fanaticism? Mental Illness? Unemployment? Hopelessness? Nationalism?

Why did they become this angry?

We should try to figure that out. We should try to gather clues so that we can answer those questions and maybe prevent people from doing these things in the future.

The world will never be a perfect place. We who are rational can read about the imperfections, the crimes of the powerful, but maintain our hope and work slowly for change.

What moves kids like these two to lose their patience, their courage and their common sense? What caused them to lose hope?

What in the world did they ever think they could accomplish by killing people at the Boston Marathon? That has nothing to do with religion. There is utterly no connection.

These acts are often dismissed as "senseless." And they are. But let's remember, there was a time when scarlet fever was considered to be a common, deadly disease. It can still be deadly. But usually it isn't thanks to science.

Why don't we try to apply science and its investigative techniques to find out what happened to these two promising kids?

We can say "Islamic terrorists" and leave it at that. But then Sandy Hook was not due to an "Islamic terrorist" nor were the shootings in the theater in Colorado or the Gaby Giffords shooting. So that does not fully inform us. It doesn't help us prevent similar events in the future.

We can say schizophrenia or mental illness. But I know people with those conditions who would never harm anyone. So that does not adequately inform us.

Because just naming something doesn't provide us with tools to prevent it. Just calling a disease cancer or scarlet fever doesn't help us save lives.

We need to approach these horrendous crimes the same way we would a disease.

Their religion may have played a role. But there is something else that makes a rare person susceptible to this kind of violent thought and action. Is religion the determining factor? A lot of evidence suggests that it is an excuse but not the cause.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
8. MSNBC has an 'article' : "Concern about Chechnya" ...
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:25 AM
Apr 2013

... as if these dudes, who've been in the states for almost 10 years, were taking orders from the Chechnyan CIA or something.

WTH is wrong that "we" always have to associate individuals' actions with the entire country they're from?

Aristus

(66,294 posts)
9. Yeah, I saw that.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:29 AM
Apr 2013

There always has to be a 'connection.' There always has to be a shadowy, sinister conspiracy.

The newsmonkeys always seem to be living in some Hollywood thriller.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
32. That's the hook. Always entertaining with the news.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:15 PM
Apr 2013

Americans became addicted to television years ago and have muddled fiction with news. It's satisfying to have a narrative in the background. Often directly from Hollywood, like the Terminator franchise or CT.

It fulfills the desire for fast moving imagery, sounds, music and bigger than life characters, heroes and villains. The more extreme, the more addictive - the more justified the drama becomes.

Fear can be a drug. The cascade of chemicals can focus attention - the technique used by Fox and other propaganda outlets. When the rush fades, the person can feel that life is colorless and boring. So they will go back for more and more.

Dry facts of political and everyday life and democratic process are insufficient to provide the rush. If people realize they are adding color to their lives with these tales, fine. If they don't, they go off the deep end. And like any addict, they will raise hell if you get between them and their pleasure.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
26. And it does not answer the most important question: Why did they,
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 01:16 PM
Apr 2013

but not other Chechnyan immigrants do this?

What made them more like the killers in past massacres like Sandy Hook and the Colorado theater and the Gabby Giffords killing than like the average Chechnyan immigrant?

That they were/are Chechnyan immigrants is not irrelevant, but we can't just label them and then walk away. We can't just say "cancer" and shrug our shoulders. We have to see whether we can find a way to prevent people from becoming so violent.

 

byeya

(2,842 posts)
28. The first World Trade Center bombing was handled by law enforcement and the second, devastating,
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 01:28 PM
Apr 2013

one should have been a law enforcement action too. There are international agencies to help state and federal LE and I can see a subsidiary role for military resouces but only with law enforcement leading the investigation. At some point the State Dept would have to step up also but think of the loss of life, liberty and property that would have been avoided if the USA had handled this crime as a crime and not an invasion.

 

adieu

(1,009 posts)
16. No, we wouldn't be bombing Russia
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:12 PM
Apr 2013

If Bushie was still in office, we'd be attacking Turkey or Azerbaijan or something.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
36. only if we can grab their oil
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:20 PM
Apr 2013

otherwise, we'd just claim they were from Venezuela, and bomb their instead.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,272 posts)
10. Strange - that was 4 hours ago now, but it's not been widely reported
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:38 AM
Apr 2013

A mistake? Or arrested for wasting police time of something?

Whereas that page does have a more recent update about an 'accomplice':

Update at 11:12 a.m. ET. Scene May Involve Possible Accomplice, Not The Suspect:

CNN reports it has been told by law enforcement sources that the latest area of Watertown where police have brought in heavy forces and have asked the media to move back is where a possible accomplice of the suspects is located — not fugitive Dzhokhar Tsarnaev.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
20. WOW! Talk about being an idiot!
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:59 PM
Apr 2013

...maybe time for me to change over to the PukeBagger team?

My face is BEET red...and I would "self-delete" but I was SO stupid, that I have to leave it for everyone to see.

*crawling under a rock*

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
22. I have posted some stupid stuff before too.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 01:08 PM
Apr 2013

At least your post, in this case, was an honest mistake.

MoonchildCA

(1,301 posts)
27. When I first read the thread title...
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 01:20 PM
Apr 2013

... I saw NRA too. I had to do a double take.

If that makes you feel any better. I think we are so use to seeing NRA in the news lately, our brain just goes there.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
29. Don't feel bad. My typos are everywhere, and sometimes they cause
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 01:31 PM
Apr 2013

me to say the opposite of what I intend. It's the internet. It causes our fingers to move more quickly than our brains.

 

firenewt

(298 posts)
33. Plenty of space under the rock I've had to use on occasion. I blame my gaffes on my age or meds
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 04:53 PM
Apr 2013

I'm on or not wearing my reading glasses. Too many groups identified by letters only.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
35. No worries. Just remember that the NRA is the gun manufacturer's lobbying organization...
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 05:18 PM
Apr 2013

...and NPR is the oil companies'.

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
19. LOL! Bless your heart Soapbox...So many things are happening this week, it's easy tp get turned
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:23 PM
Apr 2013

around but I needed a laugh this morning. Thanks! ROFL!

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
21. Good gawd...
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 01:00 PM
Apr 2013

glad I could help with the amusement...what was it Bugs Bunny would say?

What a maroon.

*still red in the face*

 

byeya

(2,842 posts)
30. Please don't feel badly - the Nefarious Rifle Assn has been running the news for months at least
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 01:31 PM
Apr 2013

and it's an easy mistake to have made. (If it were the NRA, your response was excellent.)

Mopar151

(9,975 posts)
39. I wondered what happened to that guy
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 02:56 AM
Apr 2013

NONE of the news tonite even mentioned the dude who was stripped and hauled away in a squad car. Who is he, and where are they grilling him?

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