New, Higher-Resolution Image of Boston Marathon Suspect Emerges (Photographer Says FBI Has It)

[Hissyspit]

Source: New York Times

April 18, 2013, 11:13 pm Comment

New, Higher-Resolution Image of Boston Marathon Suspect Emerges

By RAVI SOMAIYA and JEREMY ZILAR

Shortly after finishing the Boston Marathon this week David Green, 49, was walking to meet friends when two bombs exploded in front of him as he faced east on the corner of Fairfield and Boylston Streets. He snapped a photograph with his iPhone before rushing to help those wounded.

He posted it to Facebook with an account of his experiences.

On Thursday, when the Federal Bureau of Investigation released images of the two suspects in the blast, Mr. Green’s friends began to notice a figure in the bottom left corner of his picture that closely resembled one of the suspects.

One posted it in a running forum, from where it went viral, and sparked a debate over its veracity.

In an interview late Thursday, Mr. Green, who runs a sportswear company in Florida, confirmed that the picture was genuine, and that the F.B.I. had contacted him and requested a copy. “I have spoken to several agents,” Mr. Green said, “and they have got the photos, they are picking up material from me, and I don’t think there’s any doubt.” Mr. Green said he took the photo at 2:50:15 p.m. on Monday.

Agents had told him, he said, that his picture was the best they had, because it was taken from a better camera than the others that were posted.

Read more: http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/04/18/new-higher-resolution-image-of-boston-marathon-suspect-emerges/

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From Greg Mitchell:

UPDATE #3 Piers Morgan just interviewed Green. He had contacted FBI about having several photos on Monday (via cell phone) but didn't know then about white cap guy. Contacted the FBI again tonight at 7:00 and then they requested specific photo. He adds that the guy behind him is not suspect #2 due to different color on cap.

[MannyGoldstein]

1. Wow. Great shot.

They'll get him.

[Coyotl]

27. 3264 pixels wide, good lens = Close-up view screen capture at 1:1 aspect

[Coyotl]

30. blown up version of the person of interest

Does not look PhotoShopped when the original hi-res image is examined.

[rocktivity]

2. The guy in the light backward baseball cap?

Well, it's sharp, but that's about all I can say!


rocktivity

[Hissyspit]

4. Previous Discussion Thread on the Photo:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022704217#post183

[Hassin Bin Sober]

7. Maybe it's because I switched to an iPad but I can see MUCH more detail in this pic.

It's a really good photo of the bomber.

He appears to have a little goatee.

Also, the the guy in the back some folks were saying is suspect numbe 1 isn't even close - it's an older guy with a close trimmed grey beard.

[Hissyspit]

10. NYT got this from original photographer in hi-res. Click the link to see the extra large version.

It's even larger than this one:

[Tx4obama]

3. Below is a link to his facebook page to the photo and the text he posted...

Below is the text he posted on his facebook page...

Friends & Family,
I have been feeling down since the Boston Marathon bombing because I couldn't do anything to help the injured victims...until now. Thanks to my friend Jason who pointed out to me that the photo I took right after the second bomb and posted on FB has suspect #2 in the left hand corner of the photo. White baseball cap turned backwards, black sweatshirt, NO BACKPACK right after the bomb went off. Compare to the ones posted by CNN, it is unmistakable. I spoke to the FBI and it is may be the best photo they have at current time!!! One step closer to taking these @!#?#'s down...share as much as you can so that if someone knows this person they can turn them in.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10200425491872236&set=pb.1604384014.-2207520000.1366342487.&type=3&theater

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

5. I heard an expert on MSNBC say that both men took off their caps before setting off the bomb

at least that's what I thought I heard and that they set the caps down on the bombs as some sort of signal to each other. I probably heard it incorrectly as I've been busy doing other things in front of the TV and may not have paid close enough attention.

[DallasNE]

6. This Could Be Huge

Because it identifies the start of the escape route they took. Some are pointing out that the man in khaki pants near the woman in pink could well be the other suspect but he is so far away that it is hard to tell.

They have a location and time so they can now focus harder on other surveillance photos and perhaps trace them back to a car and a possible license plate number.

The other thing with that white baseball cap is that he probably has worn it before and perhaps a personal services person, like a barber, could identify and name this individual for the FBI.

[Hissyspit]

9. Zoom-in on High-Resolution of Suspect #2:

http://twitpic.com/ckbyrd/full

[David Zephyr]

20. Nose looks very fake to me. Zoom in tight.

It appears bulbous and not a natural extension of the rest of his nose.

[DallasNE]

24. I Was Putting In A Good Deal Of Faith That The NYT Would Not Engage In A Sham

I posted far more cautiously about this on the other article on this same photo because of the source. We now know from an eyewitness account that the bag was dropped off only 2 1/2 minutes before it exploded so the suspects would still be in the area. I expect the FBI will have something to say on this tomorrow (if their resources aren't spread too thin with the killing of the police officer at MIT tonight).

[DallasNE]

33. Two Things Alwaya Supported This Photo As Real

Proportionality, the size was perfect and that is fairly hard to fake.

Exposure and composition when blown up. While exposure can be altered this would have been a superb job of matching up exposure. Composition would have meant the two pictures had identical megapixels and the other photo was from a lesser security camera. It was also obvious that the angle was different than the only other known picture from a similar angle so where/how can that be accomplished without using an unknown photo and if that was the case why wouldn't they just go with the other picture.

Working against it was that nose as it almost looked like a clown nose extension. That dark line was apparently a shadow caused by his nose being flared from the excitement rush and running away. Accordingly, I shied away from directly calling it real due to the other points that strongly supported it being real.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

11. With this higher resolution pic I can see the guy in the back isn't #1

He is an older possibly Asian man with a grey short beard.

[Hissyspit]

15. That's what original photographer Green is saying.

[Mojorabbit]

8. Another weird thing in this photo is

The fellow in the center of the left side of the photo in the white striped shirt. He seems to be standing there in the middle of everything just watching. Perhaps in shock? He just stands out to me.

[lexw]

21. Yeah, that was the first thing I saw, too. He looks like he's smiling.

[swayne]

12. If you look very closely, the other suspect (Suspect 1) is next to the woman in the pink coat....

You might want to look at some larger resolution photos....but same Bridgestone hat....hard to see unless you focus in.

[alcibiades_mystery]

13. Nope. Not even close

If you look at the actual high res pic you see it's a completely different person. Completely different shirt, jacket, hat, race, face, and everything else. Not Suspect 1 at all. Not even close.

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/04/18/new-higher-resolution-image-of-boston-marathon-suspect-emerges/

Click on story and actual high res pic at the bottom.

[Hissyspit]

14. No. From Greg Mitchell:

http://gregmitchellwriter.blogspot.com/2013/04/suspect-number-2-rounding-corner-after.html

UPDATE #2: NYT story tonight--talked to photog David Green who says FBI requested photo after it went viral tonight. So in this case the crowd-sourcing really paid off big-time. Also, see below, new high-res closeup.

UPDATE #3 Piers Morgan just interviewed Green. He had contacted FBI about having several photos on Monday (via cell phone) but didn't know then about white cap guy. Contacted the FBI again tonight at 7:00 and then they requested specific photo. He adds that the guy behind him is not suspect #2 due to different color on cap. Of course, he points out suspect no longer has backpack.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

16. I think he means suspect #1 but yes.

#1 is Bridgestone hat and Kacky pants.

#2 is white hat guy

I think the numbers are based on how they appear in FBI video release.

[Hissyspit]

17. Yes, he has them confused. He meant the "other suspect."

[Lakerstan]

18. Ironically, the guy in front of him in that picture has MIT sweater.

I'm sure there is no link to the MIT shooting, but ironic nevertheless.

[DallasNE]

26. Unless The Murderer(s) Attend MIT

Then the person could have recognized him and alerted authorities once the FBI posted the photos (although I wouldn't think that they would have had only a single unit respond). Can't rule anything in, can't rule anything out.

[PD Turk]

19. Wow, that's pretty clear

When I saw the earlier pics I thought that was a question mark on the side of his hat, now I can see it's the Dale Earnhardt "3".

And this should put to bed the speculation that this guy is that missing Brown University student. That ain't him.

[SnakeEyes]

32. It's not the Earnhardt 3

Its not the same stylization

[Brimley]

22. Okay, let's review

These two men are suspected of causing the deaths of three innocent people in Boston on Monday, April 15, 2013, a cold, calculated crime whose fatalities were mostly (2 of 3) Americans. If these men are, in fact, the perpetrators, I fervently hope they are caught, prosecuted, and given the death penalty. If I had my druthers, it would be administered by strapping dynamite vests to these murderers, taking them out into a deserted place, pressing a button, and watching them go BOOM!
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But an even greater crime was committed against your country this week: On Wednesday, April 17, forty-six men and women in Washington, DC, coldly and calculatedly ensured the future deaths of hundreds---more likely thousands---of innocent people, almost ALL of whom will be Americans!
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I neither lust for nor advocate violence, and this is merely my daydream of perfect justice for a country I hope to admire again, but I wish these 46 people would be arrested and tried for treason, and, when convicted, should also be given death, except that, in THIS case, the penalty would be carried out by a firing squad, every single member of which would be using weapons still legal from gun show purchases!

[BootinUp]

23. The pictures and video they released has convinced me. Now lets get these bastards nt

[brett_jv]

25. If this is a domestic operation,there's no way they won't have this guy ID'd by tomorrow morning ...

They may not have him yet, but they'll know who he is if he's American. People that age have all kinds of living relatives, as well as friends ... I very much doubt there are any 20 year old Ted Kaczynski's in America, kids who've dropped off the grid and live in huts in rural Idaho or wherever it was they found TK, with only 1 or 2 living relatives and no friends. When you're this age, there will be many who know you.

I also gotta say ... this guy looks guilty as HELL. He looks just like someone that's thinking "holy SHIT, I just blew up a bunch of people, I gotta get the f*** OUTTA HERE". Even w/o any other evidence I'd guess this guy did it, just from looking at this photo.

I will very shocked if the authorities have this one wrong.

The longer it takes to ID them, the more sure I'll become he's not American ... if I don't wake up tomorrow and they're saying who this guy is ... he ain't from here.

I almost hate to even mention it, but ... he could be Middle-Eastern. Not Arab, but, say ... Half-Persian or Half-Palestinian? Definitely not out of the question IMHO. Don't me, I'm just the messenger...

[DallasNE]

28. Neither Is Wearing A Run Of The Mill BB Cap

I suspect they didn't get these caps just for this job so somebody will know them, perhaps a hair stylist, neighbor - who knows. Does anybody know what the "fuzzy 7" on the side of the cap signifies? Is that a corporate logo, brand -- what. They've got too much for these individuals to get away. I would be checking subway station video for someone wearing these caps, both before and after the explosions. Same with near the JFK library.

[kestrel91316]

29. There is one photo of white-cap guy where his heavy brow and

bushy eyebrows are very typical of the young Persian men so common in my community. Just sayin' (because my money is still on a domestic terrorist cell).

[davidpdx]

31. Wow, kudos to Mr. Green

The right picture, with the right camera, at the right time. The resolution is excellent. I wish he'd been a bit closer. Hopefully this will help authorities.