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Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 04:02 PM Apr 2013

Suicide Bomber Kills 27 in Baghdad Cafe: Officials

Last edited Thu Apr 18, 2013, 04:32 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: Reuters

@BreakingNews: Toll from suicide-bombing attack at Baghdad cafe rises to 27 - @AFP

Suicide bomber kills 23 in Baghdad cafe: officials

Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:54pm EDT

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - At least 23 people were killed and dozens more wounded when a suicide bomber detonated his explosives inside a Baghdad cafe on Thursday, police and hospital officials said.

No one claimed responsibility for the attack, but Iraq's al Qaeda wing has stepped up suicide attacks since the start of the year in attempt to provoke widespread confrontation between the country's Shi'ite and Sunni Muslims.

(Reporting by Kareem Raheem; writing by Patrick Markey)

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE93H14A20130418

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Suicide Bomber Kills 27 in Baghdad Cafe: Officials (Original Post) Hissyspit Apr 2013 OP
Not here, so ho-hum, even though we bear ultimate responsibility. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2013 #1
+1. And bleed. And ache. And die. Maybe they should start a marathon. n/t Smarmie Doofus Apr 2013 #4
No - sorry leftynyc Apr 2013 #5
But this country is responsible for what was done to Iraq. WHEN CRABS ROAR Apr 2013 #8
For the people we killed, yes leftynyc Apr 2013 #12
Um... Hissyspit Apr 2013 #9
Right leftynyc Apr 2013 #14
I'm not. Hissyspit Apr 2013 #15
these bombings didn't occur until '''Iraq''' became ... quadrature Apr 2013 #16
Exactly. One big happy family in Iraq before 2003 FrodosPet Apr 2013 #20
I know the fucking history of Iraq. Hissyspit Apr 2013 #22
And yet you seem to indicate life was good before 2003 FrodosPet Apr 2013 #23
There ya have it! Plucketeer Apr 2013 #10
It's not like these groups leftynyc Apr 2013 #13
Oh please Plucketeer Apr 2013 #18
I have no idea why you posted that to me leftynyc Apr 2013 #19
Correction: a Minority of Humans are violent. Amonester Apr 2013 #26
I posted it to make a point Plucketeer Apr 2013 #27
It's so utterly senseless and accomplishes nothing. nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2013 #2
freedom is untidy, ten years later Enrique Apr 2013 #3
I just checked CNN and Fox to see if they had a "dark-skinned" suspect arrested yet. n/t Gore1FL Apr 2013 #6
they are so much better since we killed saddam and gave them freedom.... madrchsod Apr 2013 #7
Saddam may not have had WMDs in 2003 FrodosPet Apr 2013 #21
Oh, you're one of those... Hissyspit Apr 2013 #24
One of those WHAT? FrodosPet Apr 2013 #25
I'm SO, SO sick of death and destruction. Beacool Apr 2013 #11
Mission Accomplished. Wednesdays Apr 2013 #17
 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
1. Not here, so ho-hum, even though we bear ultimate responsibility.
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 04:26 PM
Apr 2013

We broke Iraq, and it continues to fracture.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
5. No - sorry
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 04:40 PM
Apr 2013

The Sunnis and Shiites have been battling for longer than we've even been a country. This country is simply not responsible for every evil that befalls this planet.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
12. For the people we killed, yes
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 07:08 PM
Apr 2013

For the Shiites and the Sunnis continuing a several hundred year battle, no.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
14. Right
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 07:12 PM
Apr 2013

The Sunnis and the Shiites were lobbing beachballs at eachother during the Iran/Iraq war. Why are you pretending history started with the Iraq war in 2003?

 

quadrature

(2,049 posts)
16. these bombings didn't occur until '''Iraq''' became ...
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 08:42 PM
Apr 2013

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a so-called ''country'' in 1920 or so.

draw a line around land nobody wanted,
call it a 'country', yeah right.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
20. Exactly. One big happy family in Iraq before 2003
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:54 PM
Apr 2013

When Saddam had trouble with the Shia and the Kurds, he would sit down with them and discuss the differences to work out a civilized compromise.

And if that didn't work, his peeps would throw them in plastic shredders or poison them with mustard, tabun, VX and sarin gas.

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halabja_poison_gas_attack

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Anfal_Campaign

But no bombings. Well, OK, a few, but at least most people in the west didn't have to know about them.

Unless of course they were paying attention.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
23. And yet you seem to indicate life was good before 2003
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 01:19 PM
Apr 2013

Or are you just saying you know the history of coitus in Iraq prior to the invasion?

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
10. There ya have it!
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 05:02 PM
Apr 2013

AND..... We can puff out our chests and think of the THOUSANDS of Americans we sacraficed or seriously screwed up so that these folks could enjoy the SAME freedoms WE enjoy - to blow each other away - bombs or guns!

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
13. It's not like these groups
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 07:10 PM
Apr 2013

were one big happy family under we went into Iraq. I did not support the war but at least be honest that the reason they weren't fighting in the recent past was because they had a dictator that mercilessly murdered his Shiite opponents. What the hell do you think the Iraq/Iran war was about? History did not start in 2003.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
18. Oh please
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 10:37 AM
Apr 2013

Dead is dead. It doesn't (or dare I say SHOULDN'T) matter what stupid religious leanings one's caught up in. From the time one Homo Erectus discovered he could squelch his competition with an improvised weapon (or when Cain whacked Able if you believe that tale) we've been on a journey of certain premature demise for some of us. Some of us - those unhindered with the stupidity of religious indoctrinations - are capable of clear, reasoned thinking. Sadly, we're in the minority.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
19. I have no idea why you posted that to me
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 10:53 AM
Apr 2013

I agree with it but no idea what you're trying to convey. And plenty of people have been killed for reasons having nothing to do with religion (Pol Pot and Stalin come to mind immediately). Humans are violent - that's the reality.

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
26. Correction: a Minority of Humans are violent.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 08:09 PM
Apr 2013

A sheer Majority of Humans aren't.

Only the minority who, for some reason(s), just can't control their hormones.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
27. I posted it to make a point
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 09:06 PM
Apr 2013

You seemed to wanna hold the US above Iraq and other bomb-happy nations. Now ask yourself this - would MORE Iraqis be dead IF we'd not invaded or since we have? Again, as I said: Dead is dead. Matters not how you're renderd to that state. I'm too lazy to look for statistics, but I'd be willing to bet that more folks die in OUR "Great Country" day-for-day compared to the tally in Iraq? I'm talking about murder of course - not "natural causes".
We Americans LOVE our death tools and the power they enable us with.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
3. freedom is untidy, ten years later
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 04:39 PM
Apr 2013
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/04/11/sprj.irq.pentagon/

"Freedom's untidy, and free people are free to make mistakes and commit crimes and do bad things," Rumsfeld said. "They're also free to live their lives and do wonderful things. And that's what's going to happen here."

Looting, he added, was not uncommon for countries that experience significant social upheaval. "Stuff happens," Rumsfeld said.

Gen. Richard Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, agreed. "This is a transition period between war and what we hope will be a much more peaceful time," Myers said.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
21. Saddam may not have had WMDs in 2003
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 01:00 PM
Apr 2013

But he definitely had them in 1988.

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halabja_poison_gas_attack
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Anfal_Campaign

I guess there was more stability, and even pockets of prosperity, when Saddam and sons were running the show. At least if you were a Ba'athist Sunni.

If you were a Kurd, a "Marsh Arab", a Turk, etc perhaps not so much.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
25. One of those WHAT?
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 07:41 PM
Apr 2013

One of those people who recognize that, regardless of how bad our actions screwed up Iraq, that does not change the fact that Saddam and sons were EVIL megalomaniacs?

One of those people who feels sympathy and sorrow over the suffering of other humans, regardless of where they are from, or what they believe?

I think I know what you THINK I am, but that does not make it so.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
11. I'm SO, SO sick of death and destruction.
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 07:05 PM
Apr 2013

Those dozens wounded probably have similar wounds as the ones injured in Boston. Devastating wounds that will change their lives for ever.

May those who died rest in peace.

We live in one sick and twisted world.

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