Begich Explains Background Check ‘No’ Vote: We Shouldn’t Legislate With Our Emotions
Source: TPM
Sen. Mark Begich (D-AK), who voted against a proposal to expand background checks for gun buyers that failed in the Senate on Wednesday, said the emotions surrounding the debate over gun violence are unconducive to policymaking.
Its dangerous to do any type of policy in an emotional moment, Begich said, as quoted by the New York Times. Because human emotions then drive the decision. Everyones all worked up. Thats not enough.
Begich was one of four red state Democratic senators to vote against the proposal. He will be up for re-election next year.
Read more: http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/begich-explains-background-check-no-vote-we-shouldnt
gaspee
(3,231 posts)So, it's only emotional people who see a problem and want it fixed? Who ever thought common sense was an emotion? And you know who doesn't have emotions? Psychopaths.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Laurian
(2,593 posts)Fuck him.
n/t
Dollface
(1,590 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)But yeah, fucking asshole.
bowens43
(16,064 posts)the number of Americans that die from gun violence in the US every year FAR exceeds the number that died in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars combined.
Now BAN THE FUCKING THINGS YOU IDIOT!!!!!
Macoy51
(239 posts)You want to ban unnecessary wars??? I am ok with that.
Macoy
MotherPetrie
(3,145 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)Botany
(70,291 posts)sinkingfeeling
(51,276 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)Sedona
(3,769 posts)CarrieLynne
(497 posts)I support the right to own a gun, by RESPONSIBLE PEOPLE....but of course, we need to be careful....its a killing machine FFS
my husband and I bought a glock 45 for home protection. However, when he got drunk, (often) he felt the need to wander around the house with it in his pocket (Billy BadAss)....one day I went down to the garage to do laundry and found it pointed in my face because he was drunk and thought I was an intruder...after I left him (2 weeks later)....and old roommate broke into the house and stole a bunch of stuff....he wasnt there to protect the home.....a few weeks lafter that he had picked up the gun and pulled the trigger to make sure it was empty, and it wasnt...he shot a hole thru the bedroom.....
so....two damn close calls and when someone did break in.....it didnt help a thing....
Although my normally responsible ex-husband had every legal right to own a gun and did so legally.....I personally dont think he should be allowed to own one.....hes a tragedy waiting to happen....
perhaps we should drug and alchohol test people before they buy, or something....to keep guns out of the hands of irresponsible people.....
Another Example...Someone who gives an 11-year old an AR-15 to take to a rally at a government building - should have their rights to bear arms revoked...or at least suspended...or stripped of all their weapons...something...I dunno....
Brigid
(17,621 posts)YOU go visit the grieving family of the next kid who gets killed with a gun by some psycho who should never have had one, and tell them not to be "emotional."
kimbutgar
(20,877 posts)If it wasn't Alaska I'd say vote him out but we need that 60 vote threshold in 2014 to move this country forward. Too bad there's not any other good Democratic candidates to run against him.
benld74
(9,888 posts)Its dangerous to do any type of policy in an emotional moment, Begich said, as quoted by the New York Times. Because human emotions then drive the decision. Everyones all worked up. Thats not enough.
I need my job in Arkansas so I did a no vote.
Turbineguy
(37,208 posts)we should do it calmly and unemotionally like most killings....
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)I agree that making decisions while under emotional duress is not a good idea but I don't think that sociopath was having any emotions.
neverforget
(9,433 posts)Orsino
(37,428 posts)PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)became a coward to the angry minority
drm604
(16,230 posts)So we shouldn't consider any legislation that anybody feels any emotion about? Are you proposing that if there are grieving parents involved, a bill should be shelved?
Should we consider the actual merits of a bill or should we just look at how much emotion surrounds it and dismiss it if we believe there's too much?
Arkana
(24,347 posts)WHAT IS THIS THING YOU HU-MANS CALL EMOTION
adieu
(1,009 posts)but the piece of legislation up for a vote was crafted with rational heads, providing clear solutions to a nuisance problem (guns). The bill was not emotion. The bill was crafted with clear ideas of what will help mitigate the unnecessary slaughter of american lives.
It's no different than laws written to protect automobile passengers from death when driving an unsafe car. The emotion was used to raise the point. The legislation was crafted by clear heads to deal with the problem raised and amplified by the emotion.
By voting NO, Begich was, ironically, voting with his primal emotions. And by voting on the filibuster portion of the process, he's being a chicken. Go ahead and vote no on the bill if you have the balls, but let it go past filibuster.
Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)But the background checks are common sense. Perhaps it will pass down the road but I doubt it.
uh clem
(59 posts)...for a cowardly act.
d_b
(7,451 posts)he lost my vote.
SunSeeker
(51,368 posts)lark
(23,003 posts)OK, I didn't mean it about the dog, he's innocent. Begich however is a turd and I pledge to you I will donate to any Dem brave enough to go against this jerk in a primary.
Haven't found out who the 3 other traitors are, but same thing goes with them. This is just vile and disgusting.
earthside
(6,960 posts)Would he have voted 'no' to declare war on Japan since Americans were "all worked up" over the bombing of Pearl Harbor?
Sorry, I like Begich, but he is lying about his reasons for voting 'no' on the background checks amendment.
pampango
(24,692 posts)Arkana
(24,347 posts)blackspade
(10,056 posts)dhill926
(16,234 posts)and stop asking for money. Ya ain't getting any....
DallasNE
(7,392 posts)And isn't a closed mind just a different example of an emotional decision making process. His own words then describe what he attributes to others when they actually reflect his own emotion. Frankly, I find it indefensible to support background checks at places like Wal-Mart but refuse to allow a vote to have the identical background check on internet sales. That is not emotional, that is common sense and the same cannot be said concerning Begich's worked up, emotional outburst here.
VA_Jill
(9,852 posts)to be for background checks? In what alternate universe?
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Asshole.
ncteechur
(3,071 posts)So how, Mr. Begich, you worthless cowardly fucking piece of shit, how in fact do you legislate?
YvonneCa
(10,117 posts)...and empathy toward others? These Senators were selfish COWARDS...period.
Nihil
(13,508 posts)Doesn't matter what letter is after the name when the incentive is identical.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)Telling us to fuck off in a way he thinks is more polite.
demwing
(16,916 posts)in response to any act of aggression.
After all, that would be an emotional time, and we can't legislate war while we're upset over being attacked!
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Evasporque
(2,133 posts)If that happens these fools will all be voted out of office if they don't flip flop real fast.
The NRA is probably right now trying suppress any info on how the boston bombers got all the weapons they used last night against police.
Politicub
(12,163 posts)I'm over turncoat deems like this guy.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)the Marathon bombs