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steve2470

(37,457 posts)
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 10:19 PM Apr 2013

American Muslims condemn Boston Marathon bombings

Source: AP

WASHINGTON (AP) - American Muslim organizations are condemning the Boston Marathon bombings and urging Americans of all faiths to join them in praying for the victims and their families.

The Council on American-Islamic Relations also is asking American Muslims to offer authorities any leads they may have to help capture the perpetrators of Monday's blasts.

CAIR spokesman Ibrahim Hooper says it's unfortunate that Muslims are often instantly considered suspects in such attacks.

The Muslim Public Affairs Council and the Muslim Peace Coalition USA also condemned the Boston bombings and extended condolences to victims and their families.

Read more: http://www.koaa.com/news/american-muslims-condemn-boston-marathon-bombings/#_

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American Muslims condemn Boston Marathon bombings (Original Post) steve2470 Apr 2013 OP
Me to them tblue Apr 2013 #1
RW are targeting with vitriol Iliyah Apr 2013 #2
Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #3
They did? ck4829 Apr 2013 #4
what proof do you have ? steve2470 Apr 2013 #5
Might have jumped the gun Rabid_Rabbit Apr 2013 #9
link please, thank you kindly nt steve2470 Apr 2013 #10
Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #6
Are you saying it's highly likely it was done by a Muslim ? steve2470 Apr 2013 #7
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2013 #11
enjoy your stay here nt steve2470 Apr 2013 #15
Do a bit more research. Rozlee Apr 2013 #17
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2013 #20
I think you're biased steve2470 Apr 2013 #21
As a veteran of three wars, I don't want to get into who has the greater capacity for evil. Rozlee Apr 2013 #22
More of any ONE thing that does not have intrinsic value in and of itself is NOT MORE VALUABLE, so patrice Apr 2013 #34
Sounds good in philosophy but cosmicone Apr 2013 #36
k, well that does make sense, but I was thinking more from an individual ethical position, how patrice Apr 2013 #37
Reality, the wisdom of love n/t cosmicone Apr 2013 #38
That doesn't prove that the Boston bombings were perpetrated by Muslims. cosmicone Apr 2013 #35
In Europe far-right extremists have killed about as many as have Islamic terrorists since 1990. pampango Apr 2013 #41
If we didn't have so many violent attacks where American RW kestrel91316 Apr 2013 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author steve2470 Apr 2013 #12
Tim McVeigh? Was he a Muslim? MADem Apr 2013 #18
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2013 #23
Your subject line is very problematic, IMO. Perhaps you are unclear as to what that phrase means? MADem Apr 2013 #25
"Where there's smoke"..."like a trend". Oh, we understand what you mean all right. That darn trend uppityperson Apr 2013 #26
Or of course, Timothy McVeigh and other angry white men with time on their hands. mbperrin Apr 2013 #30
Wait, Muslims committed this act? Rozlee Apr 2013 #8
While Their Motive and Message are Pure MrBig Apr 2013 #13
good point, damned if they do, damned if they do not nt steve2470 Apr 2013 #14
"Will only serve as an admission to some" mac56 Apr 2013 #16
Exactly n/t MrBig Apr 2013 #42
Psycho loon Pamela Geller... Figaro78 Apr 2013 #19
I hope people don't jump to conclusions about this being done by Muslims davidpdx Apr 2013 #27
I agree King_Klonopin Apr 2013 #29
Md. Muslim group condemns 'cowardly terrorist act' steve2470 Apr 2013 #28
It is ridiculous hepkat Apr 2013 #31
From Shia Chat ChazII Apr 2013 #32
good post ! nt steve2470 Apr 2013 #33
Notice how the NRA has failed to condemn these bombings. Crowman1979 Apr 2013 #39
I'm waiting to see what the National Bomb Association has to say about it. slackmaster Apr 2013 #40
Is the National Bomb Associations another right-wing political action committee also? LanternWaste Apr 2013 #44
I'm not sure, but it is a member of the National Federation of Associations slackmaster Apr 2013 #45
"Where is the outrage from Muslims?????" Taverner Apr 2013 #43
Very good. I'm glad to see this. Dorian Gray Apr 2013 #46
Good! Murder and hating America are not Islamic values. Pterodactyl Apr 2013 #47

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steve2470

(37,457 posts)
7. Are you saying it's highly likely it was done by a Muslim ?
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 10:41 PM
Apr 2013

I'm willing to wait for all the evidence to come in.

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Rozlee

(2,529 posts)
17. Do a bit more research.
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 11:14 PM
Apr 2013

Lately, the biggest perpetrators of violence in the US have been right-wing extremists. Believe it or not, they have outnumbered Muslim terrorists by much higher margins than you would believe and their violence is increasing. Hate crimes have been skyrocketing in number; several worshipers were gunned down at a Sikh temple, several were shot by a Glenn Beck zombie at a Unitarian Church, two different taxi drivers have been shot for being Muslims (one was East Indian), an Iranian woman was killed by a person(s) for her nationality, Skinhead and Hammerskin violence is escalating as we have seen by the recent rash of law enforcement killings, and and none of this even covers the bombing of the Oklahoma City federal building. The Southern Poverty Law Center keeps statistics and records of many hate crimes perpetrated by right-wing extremists against Muslims, most of them being property crimes, but they have been many that have included beatings and killings. Right-wing violence has reached it's ascendancy. Whether this crime was committed by Muslims or not, right-wing extremists are still gunning for our law enforcement officers and minorities.

Response to Rozlee (Reply #17)

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
21. I think you're biased
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 11:48 PM
Apr 2013

I'll wait till all the evidence comes in. If it is truly a Muslim, you can have the smug satisfaction of knowing you called it correctly.

You also need to educate yourself here:

Terror From the Right: Plots, Conspiracies and Racist Rampages Since Oklahoma City

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/publications/terror-from-the-right

Rozlee

(2,529 posts)
22. As a veteran of three wars, I don't want to get into who has the greater capacity for evil.
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 11:49 PM
Apr 2013

As an Army nurse, I took care of our guys that were torn to pieces from roadside bombs, but I also saw civilians who got pulverized by us in air operations. We started a war with a country that had never hurt us, which resulted in hundreds of thousands dead, and even now we're killing innocent civilians, including children, with our drones. We know a thing or two about mass murders at the touch of a button.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
34. More of any ONE thing that does not have intrinsic value in and of itself is NOT MORE VALUABLE, so
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 01:52 AM
Apr 2013

the death of one is equally evil as the deaths of many, because the potential of one life is priceless.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
36. Sounds good in philosophy but
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 02:38 AM
Apr 2013

in reality, if one kills two people, one gets a harsher sentence than if only one was killed.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
37. k, well that does make sense, but I was thinking more from an individual ethical position, how
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 02:43 AM
Apr 2013

to guide one's own behavior, not legal, i.e. collective ethics, in which more does make sense, as it represents value to the group, a fungible value, though, as it is acceptable to respect what is done legally in wars.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
35. That doesn't prove that the Boston bombings were perpetrated by Muslims.
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 02:36 AM
Apr 2013

At least wait for the investigation to be over?

What if it turns out to be some NRA guy disgruntled about the recent refusal of the supreme court to hear an appeal of the CC permit?

pampango

(24,692 posts)
41. In Europe far-right extremists have killed about as many as have Islamic terrorists since 1990.
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 09:20 AM
Apr 2013

Europe’s right-wing extremism problem was hauled out of the shadows by Anders Behring Breivik’s shocking attack in July 2011 which killed 77 people. While many government agencies still hide behind the “lone wolves” theory, a 2012 Europol report concludes that the “threat of violent right-wing extremism has reached new levels in Europe and should not be underestimated”. Another report by the International Centre for Counter-Terrorism in the Hague adds that least 249 have been killed in far-right violence in Europe since 1990, compared with 263 victims of jihadist extremism.

http://www.fairobserver.com/360theme/populism-nationalism-and-globalisation-%E2%80%93-new-far-right

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
24. If we didn't have so many violent attacks where American RW
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 11:53 PM
Apr 2013

fanatics are the perpetrators, perhaps people wouldn't instantly consider THAT possibility.

I, for one, am going to assume it was RW teabagger-type domestic terrorists until proven otherwise. If it looks like a duck, and walks like a duck, and sounds like a duck........

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MADem

(135,425 posts)
18. Tim McVeigh? Was he a Muslim?
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 11:31 PM
Apr 2013

How about Bobby Joe Rogers? Eric Rudolph?

And John Brockhoeft? Are they Muslim, too?

It is premature, bordering on stereotyping and bigotry--something that's not "on" here at DU, to accuse anyone at this point in time, unless--and I strongly doubt this--you are a member of the BPD or FBI and have "inside" information unavailable to the rest of us plebians.

I think you need to modify your behavior, to say nothing of that shitty post, lest you get a reputation here.

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MADem

(135,425 posts)
25. Your subject line is very problematic, IMO. Perhaps you are unclear as to what that phrase means?
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 12:03 AM
Apr 2013

"Where there's smoke..." is an accusatory remark.

It's akin to "If it quacks like a duck..."

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
26. "Where there's smoke"..."like a trend". Oh, we understand what you mean all right. That darn trend
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 12:09 AM
Apr 2013

them evil muslins got for killin us.

We understand you well.

mbperrin

(7,672 posts)
30. Or of course, Timothy McVeigh and other angry white men with time on their hands.
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 01:09 AM
Apr 2013

Look at all the iconic American symbols today:

Patriot's Day - the kickoff of the Revolution
Boston - the center of rebellion amongst the colonies
April 15 - income tax deadline
Kennedy library - symbol of violent change in government

It's a domestic and gonna be one of the crazies that think we don't have to pay income tax because there's no "real" money to pay it with.

Rozlee

(2,529 posts)
8. Wait, Muslims committed this act?
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 10:44 PM
Apr 2013

I didn't know this. I've been listening and reading coverage and I haven't heard anything about any person or group of persons being accused of planting the bombs. I know Muslim terrorists love bragging and taking credit for any acts of terror that they commit. Has anyone called to claim responsibility for the bombings?

MrBig

(640 posts)
13. While Their Motive and Message are Pure
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 10:57 PM
Apr 2013

Unfortunately, this type of statement will only serve as an admission to some that Muslims are behind the attack. It's interesting because if they hadn't said anything, people would be up in arms about how Muslims are staying quiet about the whole thing.

The fact is, we still don't know who did it. Honestly, it doesn't matter to me whether they were Muslim, White Supremacists, Left-Wingers, Right-Wingers, etc. I hope they are captured along with anyone who helped or assisted in any way and that they are brought to justice.

mac56

(17,564 posts)
16. "Will only serve as an admission to some"
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 11:00 PM
Apr 2013

Is this the same "some" that Fox News is always citing?

"Some say that...."

Add on edit: I should be clear that I agree with you. However, the Fox News "some" aren't going to be open to reason in any case.

 

Figaro78

(37 posts)
19. Psycho loon Pamela Geller...
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 11:33 PM
Apr 2013

has already decided who's guilty. It was jihad and the evil Mooslims did it according to her blog "Atlas Shrugs".

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
27. I hope people don't jump to conclusions about this being done by Muslims
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 12:10 AM
Apr 2013

My gut feeling is that it isn't.

King_Klonopin

(1,306 posts)
29. I agree
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 01:01 AM
Apr 2013

My first suspicion -- and that's all it is, a suspicion -- was that
it was done by a Tim McVeigh-type of angry U.S. radical who identifies
with the Tea Party:

It happened on Income Tax Deadline Day.

It happened in Boston.

It happened on a state holiday called "Patriots' Day" which
commemorates the start of the Revolutionary War.

It happened 4 days before the anniversary of OK City bombing.

It may turn out that an Al Qaida-type terrorist group is responsible.
In the end, whoever is responsible is an evil asshole first and foremost.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
28. Md. Muslim group condemns 'cowardly terrorist act'
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 12:12 AM
Apr 2013
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/breaking/bal-md-muslim-council-condemns-boston-bombings-20130415,0,757469.story

Dr. Syed Wasimul Haque, the president of the United Maryland Muslim Council, condemned the "cowardly terrorist act" at the Boston Marathon Monday that has killed three and wounded more than 100.

"Our prayers go out for the fallen victims and to the city of Boston," Haque, a Frederick physician, said in a statement.

He and others in Maryland's Muslim community have condemned past acts of violence and terror against the United States.

"The Muslims have always stood shoulder to shoulder during perilous times that our nation has faced and will do so in the future as well against all terrorist attacks," Haque said. "These terrorist attacks do nothing but strengthen our resolve to fight back such cowardly act and unite us more as a nation."
 

hepkat

(143 posts)
31. It is ridiculous
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 01:17 AM
Apr 2013

All public evidence leads me to believe this was a right winger not a muslim. Yet it seems the investigation is focused on arabs.

Obviously I don't have much information, but I saw an article where 2 gop congressmen are blaming Islam already. And of course Alex Jones thinks obama did this to degrade civil liberties.

ChazII

(6,202 posts)
32. From Shia Chat
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 01:29 AM
Apr 2013
http://www.shiachat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/235012961-deadly-blasts-near-boston-marathon-2-dead/

Posts #19 Wouldn't surprise me if it was a white militia group like the Oklahoma and Norwegian bombing.
Location in Sydney

#20. They did say on the news here that the bombs were found to not be sophisticated. They were made out of very readily available materials almost any yokel can get. So it could have been done by literally anyone with an internet connection, some free time and a few hundred bucks to spare.
Location in California.
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
44. Is the National Bomb Associations another right-wing political action committee also?
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 06:09 PM
Apr 2013

Is the National Bomb Associations another right-wing political action committee also? Maybe they'll come out with "only good people with bombs can defeat bad people with bombs" for yet another meaningless and puerile bumper-sticker.

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