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Tab

(11,093 posts)
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 05:17 PM Apr 2013

Man Set on Fire in SUV Outside Long Beach 7-Eleven

Source: KTLA

LONG BEACH, Calif. (KTLA) — Police are investigating a horrifying and seemingly random attack on a man outside a 7-Eleven store.

Investigators believe the 63-year-old victim was sitting in his car when another man tossed an incendiary device through an open window.

The SUV exploded in flames.

Witnesses helped pull the driver from the burning vehicle, but he suffered serious burns.



He was rushed to the hospital where he remains in critical condition.

It happened just after 5:00 p.m. on Friday near PCH and Clark Avenue in Long Beach.

Police have a possible suspect in custody. He is believed to be a 39-year-old homeless man who frequents the area.

“The suspect was found at a nearby location taken into custody. I will be able to get more information as the investigation continues,” Sgt. Aaron Eaton told KTLA.

No word on a motive for the attack.

“There’s no information they had a relationship and no incident prior to this crime, so right now it looks like a random act,” according to Sgt. Eaton.

Read more: http://ktla.com/2013/04/13/man-set-on-fire-in-suv-outside-long-beach-7eleven/#axzz2QNdrgKAS




WTF is wrong with this country?
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Man Set on Fire in SUV Outside Long Beach 7-Eleven (Original Post) Tab Apr 2013 OP
Desperate Acts By Citizens Of A Declining Empire cantbeserious Apr 2013 #1
You think? Xipe Totec Apr 2013 #2
If There Here They Are Defacto Citizens cantbeserious Apr 2013 #4
11 million of them would disagree. nt Xipe Totec Apr 2013 #6
Does Not Change The Fact That America Is An Empire In Decline cantbeserious Apr 2013 #7
Thank you for your input. I suppose you have your bags packed now? Xipe Totec Apr 2013 #9
lol dipsydoodle Apr 2013 #14
woot alphafemale Apr 2013 #23
What does that have to do with the attack at 7/11? Renew Deal Apr 2013 #20
Interesting how quickly this went to scapegoating undocumented immigrants. (nt) Posteritatis Apr 2013 #17
This wasn't vandalism. It was attempted murder, and if the driver dies it's murder. kestrel91316 Apr 2013 #8
What is "desperate" about this? Renew Deal Apr 2013 #19
The accused had just gone on a Chalmers Johnson reading binge BeyondGeography Apr 2013 #21
35 years of piss poor mental health care, that's what's wrong. Warpy Apr 2013 #3
I was about to mention that. kentauros Apr 2013 #10
Bingo...People with mental health illnesses are the least likely to have access to care. BeHereNow Apr 2013 #18
The lack of access to competent, caring and professional care Euphoria Apr 2013 #29
Like that asshole would have admitted himself...yeah right. alphafemale Apr 2013 #24
Their families always know Warpy Apr 2013 #25
Jesus. Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #5
Further update Tab Apr 2013 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Occulus Apr 2013 #12
"critical condition" ... I hope that means there is hope. meti57b Apr 2013 #13
And I will bet a shiny nickel, actually a I have a Loonie in my pocket... Sen. Walter Sobchak Apr 2013 #15
And thank God he didn't own a gun Tab Apr 2013 #16
I'd rather be shot than burned Yo_Mama Apr 2013 #22
"...near PCH and Clark Avenue in Long Beach" KansDem Apr 2013 #26
I know that corner well catchnrelease Apr 2013 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author AsahinaKimi Apr 2013 #27

Xipe Totec

(43,887 posts)
9. Thank you for your input. I suppose you have your bags packed now?
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 05:46 PM
Apr 2013

Or are you leaving with the rest of the dolphins?

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
23. woot
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 09:33 AM
Apr 2013

lol.

It is the fault of the declining empire that the wandering, muttering, violent psychopath did not have a good job.

In a just society, as opposed to a declining empire, wandering, muttering, violent psychopaths would be given nice houses to live in.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
8. This wasn't vandalism. It was attempted murder, and if the driver dies it's murder.
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 05:43 PM
Apr 2013

Unless the perp is proven to have psychotic delusions, I support the death penalty for this sort of thing. I am DONE with evil fuckers.

Warpy

(111,107 posts)
3. 35 years of piss poor mental health care, that's what's wrong.
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 05:27 PM
Apr 2013

Combine that with a far too narrow a definition of "danger to oneself and others" and you have a recipe for disasters like this one.

I hope the driver heals. I hope the perp is off the streets for the rest of his life.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
10. I was about to mention that.
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 05:48 PM
Apr 2013

But, as we all know, funding for war is more important than taking care of our own...

BeHereNow

(17,162 posts)
18. Bingo...People with mental health illnesses are the least likely to have access to care.
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 08:27 PM
Apr 2013

As the mother of such a young adult- I know this first hand.
She was covered under the ACA until she turned 26- trying to get someone to
insure her now is out of the question.
We have been denied by all of the insurance companies due to her pre existing condition.
I don't know what else to do but ask for help from Social Services in obtaining
Medicaid and disability. Now the insanity of that is this:
When under proper medical care she is able to function quite nicely and
would not need government assistance.

BHN

Euphoria

(448 posts)
29. The lack of access to competent, caring and professional care
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 05:34 PM
Apr 2013

for mental health illnesses is an abomination.
We still relegate mental health issues to the person's personal fault(s).

Hang in there BeHereNow, I hope you will be able to locate some solutions.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
24. Like that asshole would have admitted himself...yeah right.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 09:53 AM
Apr 2013

Psychopaths like that don't think they have a problem.

It is everyone else that has a problem. We need to recognize their superiority.

Warpy

(111,107 posts)
25. Their families always know
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 04:35 PM
Apr 2013

and remember a great deal of the problem is a too-narrow definition of "danger to oneself or others."

Likely he'd have been gotten off the street and put on medication years ago if the damned lawyers would loosen their death grip.

Tab

(11,093 posts)
11. Further update
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 06:09 PM
Apr 2013

The scene was terrifying, said Shannon Flynn, 16, of Long Beach.

"He was engulfed in flames," she told the Long Beach Press-Telegram (http://bit.ly/154YZuu). "The fire was so big, people were screaming. I just can't believe this happened here."

Robert Linkroum said he was buying a newspaper at the store when he looked up and saw a man "walking on a mission" toward the car and throwing what appeared to be a bottle inside.

"The vehicle went up in flames immediately, just totally engulfed. It was all flames," he said. "It became so hot in 7-Eleven that I moved towards the back of the store because I thought the windows were going to blow."

Eaton said bystanders helped the burning man by trying to pour water on him to douse the flames.

Police arrested Raymond Sean Clark, 38, about a block away. Clark, who is homeless, was booked on suspicion of attempted murder and for two misdemeanor warrants for failing to appear on other charges. He remained jailed Saturday on more than $500,000 bail.

Witnesses said Clark is a panhandler who asked people for change and cigarettes outside the store.

More: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/police-homeless-man-sets-calif-man-fire-18948509#.UWnXFcrDl8E


Sounds like a Molotov Cocktail

Response to Tab (Reply #11)

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
15. And I will bet a shiny nickel, actually a I have a Loonie in my pocket...
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 07:54 PM
Apr 2013

that the gentleman in question has absolutely NO history of behavior that might have justified institutionalization or given ANYBODY reason to believe that he might be dangerous.

None what-so-ever, i', sure he was just a friendly hobo who one day snapped after hearing a Lady Gaga ringtone one time too many.

catchnrelease

(1,944 posts)
28. I know that corner well
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 05:24 PM
Apr 2013

I pass it several times a week on my way to the dog park, including this am. I even stopped for lunch at the little taco place on the same lot just last week. Scary. I hope the victim can recover. What an awful thing.

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