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Turborama

(22,109 posts)
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 05:58 AM Apr 2013

Plane carrying 172 passengers overshoots the runway in Bali and goes into the sea (Pic Heavy)

Source: The Daily Mail

An Indonesian airliner has crashed into the sea off the coast of Bali today after it came into land, it has emerged.

First reports said the Lion Air jet overshot the runway at Ngurah Rai Airport, near Denparsar, as went into the water.

Emergency services rushed to the scene in a frantic bid to rescue those on board. The airport is known for its runway which extends out into the ocean.

Incredibly, early reports from the scene have suggested that all 172 passengers are safe.

Many of the passengers escaped through emergency doors which opened half way along the fuselage and made their way to the shore in inflatable yellow dinghies.



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2308475/BREAKING-NEWS-Plane-carrying-172-passengers-overshoots-runway-Bali-goes-sea.html




Emergency: The Indonesian airliner crashed into the sea off the coast of Bali today. This picture
shows terrified passengers stood on the wings of the plane







The plane crashed as it came into land at Ngurah Rai Airport, near Denpasar. As these images show,
its runway extends out into the sea



My wife was on that flight recently
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Plane carrying 172 passengers overshoots the runway in Bali and goes into the sea (Pic Heavy) (Original Post) Turborama Apr 2013 OP
It has seemed to me for a number of years dipsydoodle Apr 2013 #1
I agree...... secondwind Apr 2013 #3
Bali's a great place and the Balinese are the sweetest people I've ever met Turborama Apr 2013 #5
It's the place I would most like to visit BainsBane Apr 2013 #16
My sister goes there dipsydoodle Apr 2013 #18
But Bali has incredible artisans BainsBane Apr 2013 #19
They may well do dipsydoodle Apr 2013 #20
Cuba? Beacool Apr 2013 #25
I'm UK dipsydoodle Apr 2013 #27
Yeah, it's a shame. Beacool Apr 2013 #30
Why? Beacool Apr 2013 #24
I had quite enough dipsydoodle Apr 2013 #26
OK, I see your point. Beacool Apr 2013 #29
I was mid Atlantic 9/11 dipsydoodle Apr 2013 #32
I've never been to Indonesia davidpdx Apr 2013 #35
There are many beautiful islands closer to home... no thanks! secondwind Apr 2013 #2
Lion Air. It's not just de-plaining that's difficult either ... Scuba Apr 2013 #4
Love the welcoming committee! Brigid Apr 2013 #12
That's a great pic. Beacool Apr 2013 #23
Looks similar to landing at La guardia Airport in New York. Also a short runway, and a nail midnight Apr 2013 #6
When you come into land the approach to the runway is basically sea until about 10 seconds Turborama Apr 2013 #7
That is a great description.... midnight Apr 2013 #8
There are lots of airports like that DFW Apr 2013 #9
Flew into Kai Tak back in 1970 ornotna Apr 2013 #10
Kai Tak required that pilots have unique training to land there... brooklynite Apr 2013 #15
My sister has told me about Quito. Control-Z Apr 2013 #13
DCA is very tame compared to Quito DFW Apr 2013 #33
Had no idea they were Control-Z Apr 2013 #39
I've had enough crazy landings DFW Apr 2013 #40
Holy crap! Brigid Apr 2013 #11
Actually it doesn't matter.. pangaia Apr 2013 #34
I've heard the beaches in Bali are beautiful but... Cooley Hurd Apr 2013 #14
They land here in Indy all the time. Brigid Apr 2013 #17
I heard the news this morning. Beacool Apr 2013 #21
Might have to crank up Flight Sim again and see if I can land there. yourout Apr 2013 #22
San Francisco's runways also extend on landfill into the bay dickthegrouch Apr 2013 #28
Pilot error.... Aviation Pro Apr 2013 #31
There has been an increase in the low cost airlines in Asia davidpdx Apr 2013 #36
So glad no one died Marrah_G Apr 2013 #37
Oh no ...not again underpants Apr 2013 #38

Turborama

(22,109 posts)
5. Bali's a great place and the Balinese are the sweetest people I've ever met
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 06:44 AM
Apr 2013

But its infrastructure can't cope with the amount of tourists already visiting there.

I'm just glad no-one died/was seriously hurt during this incident.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
25. Cuba?
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 11:21 AM
Apr 2013

You must not live in the US. Although my friend from PA went there through Toronto. She loved Cuba, but talk about needing to upgrade their infrastructure.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
27. I'm UK
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 11:31 AM
Apr 2013

and go there anytime I feel like it. US sanctions have denied them the income to upgrade their infrastructure.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
30. Yeah, it's a shame.
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 11:58 AM
Apr 2013

My friend loved the waterfront area, the "Malecon". She said that it was lovely and that the people were super nice.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
26. I had quite enough
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 11:28 AM
Apr 2013

in the eighties with IRA bombs in London , especially just missing the Harrods one by about 20 minutes , and don't need to fly long distance for any risk whatsoever of a repetition. I appreciate its beautiful there but so are many other places.

It was tragic that girl was murdered in Kashmir last week. I had friends back in the '70s who ran black money physically across continents just using baggage. They got caught occasionally and would follow such events by going to one of houseboats there to chill out. They always maintained that's the most beautiful place on the entire planet - especially waking up in the morning and looking out at the Himalayas.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
29. OK, I see your point.
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 11:51 AM
Apr 2013

But you can't stop doing things for fear of another incident. Life is too short and there are so many wonderful places to travel to. The morning of 9/11/01 I was underneath the North Tower on a PATH train (similar to the subway, it goes under the Hudson River from NJ to NY). My train was the next to last one to reach the WTC. The first plane was already embedded in the bldg. and the bldg. was full of smoke. The second plane hit while I was literally across the street from the South Tower. We all thought that we were going to die. A month later I was on a plane to Europe to visit family. I had bought those tickets months before 9/11 and I wasn't about to change my plans. Life goes on.



As for the girl in Kashmir, that was horrible. But, it wasn't a local who killed her. it was a Dutch tourist. It could have happened anywhere.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
32. I was mid Atlantic 9/11
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 12:18 PM
Apr 2013

on my way to dance camp in SF. No it didn't stop me flying the US after that either.

I mentioned the girl in Kashmir to identify the location. Yes I know it was a deranged Dutch loony.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
35. I've never been to Indonesia
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 10:05 PM
Apr 2013

But given some of the stuff I've heard I probably never will go. It's probably only 5-6 hours flight from Seoul. Malaysia is one of the places I haven't been yet that I want to go to.

midnight

(26,624 posts)
6. Looks similar to landing at La guardia Airport in New York. Also a short runway, and a nail
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 06:52 AM
Apr 2013

biter during a landing too....

Turborama

(22,109 posts)
7. When you come into land the approach to the runway is basically sea until about 10 seconds
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 06:57 AM
Apr 2013

before the wheels hit the tarmac.

The sea is almost at eye level for quite a while before landing and it's quite an amazing experience. It's one of those ones where all the passengers clap every time it hits the ground, lol.

DFW

(54,369 posts)
9. There are lots of airports like that
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 07:17 AM
Apr 2013

I've never been to Denpasar, but the old Kai Tak was like that, too. La Guardia, San Diego, Logan all come to mind as well, and Funchal is always good for nail-biting, as well as the occasional airliner overshooting into the sea. At airports like that the passengers are always at the mercy of the pilot's skill combined with the weather conditions. Even so, no landing freaked me out as much (the first time) as landing in Quito, where looking out the window convinces you the plane is about to crash in the middle of a lower-income residential area.

brooklynite

(94,513 posts)
15. Kai Tak required that pilots have unique training to land there...
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 09:36 AM
Apr 2013

overshooting the runway was the least of the risks.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
13. My sister has told me about Quito.
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 08:28 AM
Apr 2013

She's flown in and out of there several times and I understand it is terrorizing even to the most seasoned flier. I recently heard they were planning to rebuild/modernize that airport - to accommodate more planes and possibly improve the flying experience.

I can't think of the circumstances that would convince me to fly into there. National (DC) is scary enough in my book!

DFW

(54,369 posts)
33. DCA is very tame compared to Quito
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 12:21 PM
Apr 2013

I was talking to some people from the Ecuadorian government last time I was down there, and they want to build a completely new airport, several miles from the city. The trouble is, with the inhospitable (for airplanes) terrain in the area, it is a logistical nightmare and would cost many billions more than they have, which is about zero. Plus, getting them to take a decision is a nightmare. I was there advising them on a modest cost-free (to them), pollution-free plan to bring them in a few million extra dollars from existing assets they have. They loved it, and were very enthusiastic about it. It would have built them a new national museum they desperately want to erect to house their immense cultural heritage. That was in 2001, and again in 2003. They are still discussing it. We told them, "fine, whenever." That's about where they are with their new airport, too, last I heard.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
39. Had no idea they were
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 06:08 PM
Apr 2013

so indecisive. I hope your income is not dependent on job completion. Lol.

I could never have a job like yours no matter how or what it paid. I'm pretty much over the fear of flying I had developed at a younger age, but small planes and/or crazy landings are forever out of the question.

DFW

(54,369 posts)
40. I've had enough crazy landings
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 10:02 PM
Apr 2013

The scariest was with a small Embraer propeller plane landing at Zavantem in Belgium. It was a very windy day, and strong gusts were blowing over the airport. Just as we were on final, almost at the beginning of the landing strip, a huge gust blew the Embraer from its horizontal landing position to vertical, and I thought I would be dead in five seconds. The pilot was wide awake, and managed to maneuver the plane back to horizontal and onto another runway at a 90° angle, where we landed safely.



My income, luckily, is not dependent on indecisive Latin American governments! I went down there at their request, but with the full knowledge that it would be more for future reference than any gain on our part. The people from the Ecuadorian government were very friendly (very relieved that I spoke Spanish, and did not threaten them to do what I wanted because I knew Henry Kissinger, which some other idiot American before me had done). After reviewing their situation, a couple of them took me on a day tour of some of the coolest towns in the Andean part of the country about two hours outside of Quito. If I could find the time, I'd go back there if I could, just for a visit, no official stuff.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
34. Actually it doesn't matter..
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 12:47 PM
Apr 2013

if the runway extends over the sea or not.. land..sea.. it's basically all the same....
Length and winds are more significant..think of Chicago Midway...

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
14. I've heard the beaches in Bali are beautiful but...
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 08:45 AM
Apr 2013

...this is certainly no reason to be in a rush to get there THIS way.

All kidding aside, yet another example of the ruggedness of the venerable Boeing 737!

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
21. I heard the news this morning.
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 11:14 AM
Apr 2013

I was holding my breath until they said that everyone made it out alive. It reminded me of the plane that landed on the Hudson. My office window is facing the river and we got to see the whole thing from our windows.

yourout

(7,527 posts)
22. Might have to crank up Flight Sim again and see if I can land there.
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 11:15 AM
Apr 2013

At least if I miss I won't get wet.

dickthegrouch

(3,172 posts)
28. San Francisco's runways also extend on landfill into the bay
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 11:38 AM
Apr 2013

I love Bali
The food was fantastic, beaches wonderful, but don't leave anything alone or it will be "found" by the marauding kids.
Day trips to the various temples and volcanoes were enthralling.
The artistry stunning.
I discovered a form of vocal music I'd never heard of before (as a musician with a passion for choral music that was the highlight of my vacation) and a new instrument which, to this day, I've not found out whether it was blown, hit or strummed.

Aviation Pro

(12,163 posts)
31. Pilot error....
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 11:59 AM
Apr 2013

...probably landing way above Vref, didn't recognize the threat and instead of executing a missed approach chose to force the landing.

Fortunately only a hull loss.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
36. There has been an increase in the low cost airlines in Asia
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 10:07 PM
Apr 2013

For a long time there were just a few. I heard Air Asia is the newest one. I'm not sure I'd fly one of these airlines overseas. In the US I sometimes do, but this makes me wonder how well trained their pilots are.

Edit: Actually after I pushed the post button I was thinking about it. When I went to the Philippines I had to take a flight from Manila to Boracay Island which was a low cost carrier, though it was a pretty reliable one).

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