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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 01:39 PM Apr 2013

Updated 3x Source: Progress Kentucky Behind Mitch McConnell Campaign Recording

Last edited Thu Apr 11, 2013, 02:48 PM - Edit history (3)

Source: WFPL-News

By PHILLIP M. BAILEY, KENNY COLSTON AND GABE BULLARD

A secret recording of a campaign strategy session between U.S. Senator Mitch McConnell and his advisors was taped by leaders of the Progress Kentucky super PAC, says a longtime local Democratic operative.

Mother Jones Magazine released the tape this week. The meeting itself took place on Feb. 2.

Jacob Conway, who is on the executive committee of the Jefferson County Democratic Party, says that day, Shawn Reilly and Curtis Morrison, who founded and volunteered for Progress Kentucky, respectively, bragged to him about how they recorded the meeting.

Conway says neither the local nor the state Democratic party had any part in the incident.

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Read more: http://wfpl.org/post/source-progress-kentucky-behind-mitch-mcconnell-campaign-recording



Local Dem Says He Outed Progress Kentucky To Protect The Party (VIDEO)

The Democratic official who's claiming that two members of the group Progress Kentucky were behind the recordings of a secret meeting between Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) and campaign aides said Thursday that he made the information public for the good of his party.

Jacob Conway, who sits on the executive committee of the Jefferson County, Ky. Democratic Party, told the public radio station WFPL that Shawn Reilly and Curtis Morrison of Progress Kentucky bragged to him about recording the meeting, which was held Feb. 2 at a newly opened McConnell campaign office in Louisville, Ky. In one of the recordings, which were obtained by Mother Jones, an aide to McConnell can be heard discussing Ashley Judd's history with depression and how it might be exploited in next year's campaign.

Shortly after WFPL broke the story on Thursday afternoon, Conway told Fox News Channel's Megyn Kelly that he didn't want the actions by Reilly and Morrison to inflict damage on Democrats in Kentucky.

"The only reason that I came forrward with what I knew was I was trying to protect the Democratic Party," Conway said. "I believe in our party's values, and I was doing what I thought was best for the party because I did not want their bad behavior, their poor mistakes — I shouldn't say "bad behavior" — their mistakes, their lack of judgment to hurt our party's efforts here in the state Kentucky and in Jefferson County, here in Louisville."

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http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/local-dem-says-he-outed-progress-kentucky-to

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FBI Obtained Surveillance From McConnell’s Campaign Office Building

PEMA LEVY 2:26 PM EDT, THURSDAY APRIL 11, 2013

The FBI has twice visited Sen. Mitch McConnell's (R-KY) campaign office and acquired surveillance footage from the lobby of the building where McConnell has campaign offices on the second floor, McConnell campaign manager Jesse Benton told Fox News Thursday.

Benton said that the FBI has not asked the campaign about Progress Kentucky, the group suspected of making the recording.

"I think the FBI's doing a wonderful job," Benton said. "They've been to our office now twice. I believe they've obtained some video surveillance equipment and they assure me they're taking this very seriously and working to make sure whoever did this was brought to justice."

"They think that they will have some substantial progress to be making some announcements very soon," Benton said of the FBI investigation.

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http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/fbi-obtained-surveillance-from-mcconnells-campaign-office-building

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David Corn On Progress Kentucky Allegations: ‘Can’t Say Much Now’

Mother Jones' David Corn said Thursday that he has no comment on the report that two members of the group Progress Kentucky were behind the recordings of the secret meeting involving Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) and campaign aides.

"I don't comment on confidential sources," Corn told TPM in an email. "Can't say much now."

It was Corn who reported on the recordings earlier this week. In one of the recordings, a McConnell aide can be heard discussing Ashley Judd's history with depression and how it might play in a campaign. McConnell's camp maintained all along that the meeting was recorded through a Watergate-style bugging operation, an assertion that Corn denied.

Jacob Conway, who sits on the executive committee of the Jefferson County, Ky. Democratic Party, told Kentucky NPR affiliate WFPL that Shawn Reilly and Curtis Morrison of Progress Kentucky bragged to him about recording the meeting. Conway subsequently told Fox News that he made the information public for the sake of the Democratic Party.

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Updated 3x Source: Progress Kentucky Behind Mitch McConnell Campaign Recording (Original Post) DonViejo Apr 2013 OP
Then one of these persons was Iliyah Apr 2013 #1
If they bugged this meeting and they admitted to this guy than they are in serious trouble. hrmjustin Apr 2013 #2
The full article explains... DonViejo Apr 2013 #3
It doesn't sound like they bugged it. GoCubsGo Apr 2013 #10
Than they might be able to get away with it. hrmjustin Apr 2013 #11
Which, if I read KY law correctly, premium Apr 2013 #14
As I understand it... GoCubsGo Apr 2013 #20
My guess is they won't get in legal trouble, but they might make them sweat it for a period of time. hrmjustin Apr 2013 #21
You're probably right, premium Apr 2013 #22
I wonder how this guy who outed them is going to be treated. hrmjustin Apr 2013 #24
I think he wasn't taking any chances that the local and state Dem Party premium Apr 2013 #26
I have two issues with the guy doing the outing. LiberalFighter Apr 2013 #29
Why would anyone have issues with a whistle blower, regardless of party, who went public with 24601 Apr 2013 #34
I wouldn't have a problem whistleblowing something like that but unless he LiberalFighter Apr 2013 #35
Do you think this is whistle blowing? WinniSkipper Apr 2013 #39
You could very well be right. premium Apr 2013 #23
Something doesn't sound right here. Sanity Claws Apr 2013 #4
Probably because of the FBI's involvement, premium Apr 2013 #6
That is an interesting question. hrmjustin Apr 2013 #8
I'm not sure how helpful this news is. For whatever reasons, Judd won't run. freshwest Apr 2013 #5
sounds like a frame job to me, a la Dan Rather ZRT2209 Apr 2013 #7
Dan Rather never framed anyone. hrmjustin Apr 2013 #12
No, he didn't. But he may Isoldeblue Apr 2013 #15
Yes I agree. hrmjustin Apr 2013 #18
I mean that Dan Rather GOT framed.... ZRT2209 Apr 2013 #16
Ok sorry i got that wrong. hrmjustin Apr 2013 #17
so it wasn't a "Nixonian" bugging of McConnell's offices, then? 0rganism Apr 2013 #9
These 2 guys could still be in serious trouble, premium Apr 2013 #13
From the first link in the OP csziggy Apr 2013 #19
I suspect you're right. nt. premium Apr 2013 #25
The audio quality of the tape was excellent LeftInTX Apr 2013 #27
Wouldn't lack of consent of at least one party require the person not recording & not be present? LiberalFighter Apr 2013 #36
even so, it's not a bug, it's not a break-in, it's not "Nixonian" at all 0rganism Apr 2013 #33
What IS Nixonian is that Mitch used congressional staff to do his dirty work csziggy Apr 2013 #37
What REALLY SUCKS is that now poor poor Mitch McConnel is the victim groundloop Apr 2013 #28
You know he will play the victim. hrmjustin Apr 2013 #30
Does Mitch EVER do work for the American people, or is it all about holding his seat? ZRT2209 Apr 2013 #31
A related update below Tx4obama Apr 2013 #32
If this turns out to be true Revanchist Apr 2013 #38

GoCubsGo

(32,079 posts)
10. It doesn't sound like they bugged it.
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 02:09 PM
Apr 2013

It sounds like they stood out in the hallway and recorded it. Apparently, the room was not as sound-proof as its occupants thought.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
11. Than they might be able to get away with it.
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 02:13 PM
Apr 2013

But it does reinforce to people that MCconnell is a scallywag.

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
14. Which, if I read KY law correctly,
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 02:19 PM
Apr 2013

is still illegal unless you have the permission of the party being recorded.
I imagine the FBI will figure it out.

GoCubsGo

(32,079 posts)
20. As I understand it...
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 02:38 PM
Apr 2013

Recording in a public setting is not illegal, and the hallways of public buildings are public settings. It will be interesting to see how this one gets decided.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
21. My guess is they won't get in legal trouble, but they might make them sweat it for a period of time.
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 02:42 PM
Apr 2013
 

premium

(3,731 posts)
22. You're probably right,
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 02:46 PM
Apr 2013

there might be just enough grey area in the law for these 2 to wiggle out of any charges.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
24. I wonder how this guy who outed them is going to be treated.
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 02:48 PM
Apr 2013

He may really be trying to protect the party but he may be in the dog house.

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
26. I think he wasn't taking any chances that the local and state Dem Party
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 02:53 PM
Apr 2013

would become embroiled in what could possibly become a serious matter, especially now that the FBI is involved.

I really don't think he'll face any backlash from the party, at least, I would hope not.

LiberalFighter

(50,888 posts)
29. I have two issues with the guy doing the outing.
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 03:36 PM
Apr 2013

If he wasn't doing directly on behalf of the county party then he had no business saying anything. Unless that person is the regular go to person assigned by the county party he had no business.

The second issue I have is for him to be talking to the local Fox news reporters.

24601

(3,959 posts)
34. Why would anyone have issues with a whistle blower, regardless of party, who went public with
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 06:51 PM
Apr 2013

information about a potential violation of laws protecting people from illegal recordings?

LiberalFighter

(50,888 posts)
35. I wouldn't have a problem whistleblowing something like that but unless he
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 08:14 PM
Apr 2013

was the designated spokesperson I don't think he should be speaking on their behalf.

 

WinniSkipper

(363 posts)
39. Do you think this is whistle blowing?
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 12:28 PM
Apr 2013

McConnell is a low-life. No surprise there. But what was recorded goes on in every campaign, on both sides of the isle. While the tactics discussed may not be appealing - this is what happens in ALL campaigns

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
23. You could very well be right.
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 02:48 PM
Apr 2013

I will be interesting to see how the law is interpreted considering that the McConnell bunch were in a room, door closed and locked.

Sanity Claws

(21,846 posts)
4. Something doesn't sound right here.
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 01:51 PM
Apr 2013

Why would Conway say this?
Is there a dispute between the local Democrats and the Progress Kentucky super Pac?

In the immortal words of Aretha Franklin, "who's zoomin' who?"
(My inner grammar Nazi really wants to change that to "Who's zooming whom?&quot

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
6. Probably because of the FBI's involvement,
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 02:01 PM
Apr 2013

he wants to distance himself and the local Dem. party from any possible charges that may stem from this recording.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
8. That is an interesting question.
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 02:02 PM
Apr 2013

Maybe he wanted it to be clear the democratic party had nothing to do with it. The fact that Mcconnell is a sleazy inhuman jerk is not a surprise to KY but they might not like the fact he was bugged. This might have been his reasoning. I am surprised the two people who allegedly recorded this would tell anyone.

0rganism

(23,944 posts)
9. so it wasn't a "Nixonian" bugging of McConnell's offices, then?
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 02:05 PM
Apr 2013

Apparently, the guys from Progress Kentucky just wandered in and heard the conversation from a hallway outside a conference room.
When can we expect Sen. McConnell's retraction?

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
13. These 2 guys could still be in serious trouble,
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 02:16 PM
Apr 2013

as they didn't get the permission of those in the meeting to audio record them.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
19. From the first link in the OP
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 02:38 PM
Apr 2013
Kentucky law says it is a felony “to overhear, record amplify or transmit any part of a wire or oral communication of others without the consent of at least one party thereto by means of any electric, mechanical or other device."

But if the conversation was audible from a hallway, it's disputable whether recording qualifies as eavesdropping.
wfpl.org/post/source-progress-kentucky-behind-mitch-mcconnell-campaign-recording

So it may be a gray area. I expect this will end up in the courts.

LeftInTX

(25,258 posts)
27. The audio quality of the tape was excellent
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 03:09 PM
Apr 2013

Sounded like they were speaking into a mic.

But, I don't know about this stuff.
I'm sure the FBI will be able to determine whether they can reproduce the same quality from the hall.

LiberalFighter

(50,888 posts)
36. Wouldn't lack of consent of at least one party require the person not recording & not be present?
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 08:24 PM
Apr 2013

That would mean a recording device or bug was placed in the room and activated to record. And anyone with knowledge of the device would not be within hearing range of the conversation.

0rganism

(23,944 posts)
33. even so, it's not a bug, it's not a break-in, it's not "Nixonian" at all
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 06:31 PM
Apr 2013

The most Nixonian thing about this incident is McConnell and his campaign staff planning the dirty tricks to use in assassinating his opponents' characters, and apparently that's standard practice these days anyway.

He accused "the left" of "Nixonian" tactics. He owes the nation a retraction. Think we'll get one?

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
37. What IS Nixonian is that Mitch used congressional staff to do his dirty work
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 10:46 PM
Apr 2013

See the link below about the ethics complaint because McConnell seems to have used aides from his government office to do the research on Judd. This should be fun!

groundloop

(11,518 posts)
28. What REALLY SUCKS is that now poor poor Mitch McConnel is the victim
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 03:35 PM
Apr 2013

Never mind that he was plotting how to trash Ashley Judd and others, looking for ways to dig up dirt on them. Never mind that he's a lying sleazebag. Poor poor Mitch had his office bugged by the nasty lefties.

Revanchist

(1,375 posts)
38. If this turns out to be true
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 11:10 PM
Apr 2013

If this turns out to be true what does it mean for the FBI case? I would be surprised if an illegally obtained recording would be admissible in a court case being fruit of the poisonous tree and all could this derail the entire investigation?

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