BREAKING NEWS: Gunman holding five firefighters hostage in suburban Atlanta: Gunman dead.

[warrior1]

Source: MSNBC and faux

https://twitter.com/BreakingNews

SUWANEE, Ga. -

A gunman is holding five firefighters hostage in Gwinnett County, authorities say.

A SWAT team was on the scene at 2240 Walnut Grove Way in Suwanee, according to the Gwinnett County Police Department. That home is near Collins Hill Park.

Police say that the firefighters were apparently responding to the home on a medical call.

The gunman was barricaded inside the home with the firefighters, according to Gwinnett County police.

Read more: http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/story/21935512/police-gunman

[Earth_First]

1. Not this again...

WTF!

[graham4anything]

2. Why are gun extremists trying to assasssinate firemen all over?

This appears to be a nationwide thing lately.

What sense does it make to kill firemen?

Is the NRA seriously attempting to burn everything down and have no one there to put out fires?

More and more all guns/bullets must be banned from the hands of private citizens.

[AtheistCrusader]

16. Copycat shit I imagine.

Started with one, and ideas propagate...

[Niceguy1]

30. I dont think that

This is a sinister NRA plot.

[krispos42]

39. Good targets

In the sense that they approach the ideal of a target.


They are neither armed nor armored. They come when you call them. You know when and where they will arrive, and they announce their arrival with sirens and flashing lights. and because they are public servants, the media will flock to the event.

[Historic NY]

49. They come when you call......

[kestrel91316]

64. Firefighters are evil government employees, that's why. And they are

union members, right? Plenty of reason for RW haters to hate them. That, and they provide lifesaving service to brown people and the poor at the expense of "job creators".

[Robb]

3. Well, I guess we should arm the firefighters.

Love, NRA Robb.

[riverbendviewgal]

35. yes and be like the phillipine people

Who modeled their country's constitution like the USA. They love their guns like Americans. 70 percent of the phillipines people own guns. Their kids own guns and many of their politicians are murdered by guns. Watch HBO new series Vice and see it all. Sick!!!!.

I am thankful I live in a sane country and not the United States of America, one nation, under guns.

My partner is a firefighter and has left for a department meeting. You can bet his fellow firefighters will be talking about crazy america.
And web live in rural northern Ontario and NoOnenhas assault rifles, just regular hunting rifles.

Wow, how come America has gone nuts???

[Poll_Blind]

4. Jesus Christ. This is such a fucking American thing to happen I could puke.

PB

[DesertRat]

5. Oh no!

k&r

[Happyhippychick]

6. Too bad the firefighters didn't have assault rifles

Dripping sarcasm

[warrior1]

7. I keep checking back

and there still is not more news to report.

[Tx4obama]

18. A link below that is posting updates

Here: http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/georgia-firefighters-held-hostage-april-2013

[warrior1]

19. thanks right back at ya

[derby378]

8. Wow - not one response so far...

...wishing the firefighters make it through the ordeal alive and well. Instead, it's "let's be cutesy about guns."

I want the firefighters rescued and returned to their families and loved ones. What say you? Can we at least agree on this?

[Bandit]

11. Guns seem to be making news every single day now...

Yes of course everybody wants all to be safe but with gun nuts running around like they are, we just sort of hope for the best and expect the worse...And we should not even attempt to find any solutions seems to be what I get from many that post here and especially on right wings blogs...

[slackmaster]

41. It's a manufactured crisis. Violent crime of all types has been trending down for about 20 years.

It's generated buzz, created for the purpose of increasing viewership of TV channels and readership of blogs and printed matter, with the ultimate intent of driving up advertising revenues. That is, profit.

[freshwest]

70. +1

[JI7]

17. why do you think we are trying to do something about all the guns in this country

when these things happen day after day. multiple times in a day.

"now is not the time" it will never be the time based on how these things are happening so often.

[TheCowsCameHome]

22. Deflect, deflect, deflect,

anything to take the focus off the fact it's another case of guns in the wrong hands.

Of course we want the firefighters released safely. As for the gunman? Screw him.

[frylock]

27. isn't that kind of unsaid?

you really need affirmation that that's what people want. really?!

[Earth_First]

34. Oh, FFS!

I hope you had your fainting couch nearby when you fell over from the wholesale disgust you have witnessed by the insensitivity of the responses to this thread.

Oh, wait a minute...

In closing, I hope you survived the fall.

[Hoyt]

38. When one of the gungeoneers starts preaching concern for victims, it is laughable.

You'd be more believable trying to get your gun buddies to start acting responsibly.

[graham4anything]

65. +1

[LanternWaste]

61. What precisely will wishes and prayers do?

Wishes are, as I understand it, effective as prayers.

What precisely will wishes and prayers accomplish?

[warrior1]

9. live video

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/287668/40/LIVE-FF-Hostage

[RebelOne]

10. Watching now on the local Atlanta news stations.

I just hope no harm comes to those firefighters.

[RebelOne]

12. Just announced that the man who called was faking a heart attack. n/t

[RebelOne]

13. Update: One firefighter has been released. n/t

[etherealtruth]

14. WTF

Really, what possible motivation could there be for this?

[Blue_Tires]

40. Whatever his plan is, it appears "getting media attention" is a part of it...

Edit: AJC says he's upset about getting foreclosed

[Tx4obama]

15. Below is a live-blog link that is posting updates

Here: http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/georgia-firefighters-held-hostage-april-2013

[RebelOne]

43. Watching live news from Atlanta news stations. n/t

[onehandle]

20. Guns doing what they do best. nt

[darkangel218]

25. Wrong.

Criminals doing what they do best.

[etherealtruth]

26. Well, we can't get rid of people (criminals)

... so perhaps, we can try to do something else .... its the guns

[darkangel218]

28. They will still get guns ( ilegally)

And if they dont, they will use.other objects/bombs, etc. But most likely they will.get the guns.

[etherealtruth]

29. Yep you are right ... we shouldn't even try

[darkangel218]

31. Im not saying that. But be resonable about it.

Guns don't fire on their own, they're fired by people. Let's be serious about it if we try to make a serious point.

[AverageJoe90]

33. That IS true, I suppose.

Hope the firefighters can all get out safely.

[darkangel218]

36. Yah me too. What a fuct up situation.

[Niceguy1]

32. the prohibition

Didn't work out so well. Do you think that what you advocatebwill be different?

[etherealtruth]

37. There have been prohibitions of many things in our society and culture

Some work out well, some do not.

we have not tried stringent gun control ... it is time we did

[Niceguy1]

47. prohibiting

Something as common as a firearm would be unsuccessful as there are millions of them around and even a despot like hitler or stalin couldn't round them up... especially from the gangs that are causing the violence in our big cities.

[etherealtruth]

55. I have no doubt that that is your opinion

[Niceguy1]

62. how do you

Think a prohibition of firearms would be carried out?

[olddots]

63. thousands would beleive you

[JI7]

50. Are those two 4 year olds who shot people just in the past week or so criminals ?

[Larrylarry]

57. You couldn't be more wrong

The gun is being used to keep the firefighters in line while they're being held hostage

If the guy had a knife the firefighters would have shoved it up his fucking ass

The gun is doing what guns do best

[valerief]

21. If only the world had more guns instead of firefighters.

The gungeoneer's wet dream.

[darkangel218]

24. Lol. who cares about the firefighters.

Let's talk about gun control instead.

[RebelOne]

23. According to WSBTV Atlanta news,

a child has been shot. No further details. Just learned it is not related to hostage situation. It happened in southeast Atlanta area.

[Blue_Tires]

42. The AJC says the gunman is distraught over his home getting foreclosed

A Gwinnett County Sheriff’s deputy at the scene said that the gunman had faked a heart attack to elicit fire department response, and that he was upset because his house was being foreclosed upon.

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local/gunman-holds-5-gwinnett-firefighters-hostage/nXH22/

The photos show it's a pretty nice neighborhood (you know, in that nauseating, generic, suburban, faux big money McMansion sort of way)

[TheCowsCameHome]

59. Was the fire department foreclosing on the home?

What the hell do they have to do with this guy's problems?

[Selatius]

68. Back in the 1930s during the Great Depression, people would rob banks or set them on fire.

Such was the desperation of the times and the anger. There was no love for the banks that seized farmland and homes in the aftermath of a Depression the banks had wrought.

[RebelOne]

44. I feel sorry for all those people returning from work

that are not being allowed into their homes in that neighborhood.

[Eugene]

45. Ga. Firefighters Hostage Update: Suspect released one firefighter, four still held in Suwanee, ...

Source: CBS/AP

April 10, 2013 6:15 PM

Ga. Firefighters Hostage Update: Suspect released one firefighter, four still held in Suwanee, authorities say

By Crimesider Staff

(CBS/AP) GWINNETT COUNTY, Ga. - A barricaded gunman who took five firefighters hostage in northwest Georgia Wednesday has released one of those firefighters so he could move a fire truck which was blocking the house, police confirmed in a news conference.

Gwinnett County Police Cpl. Edwin Ritter says firefighters on Wednesday responded to a medical call in Suwanee and were taken hostage by a suspect he didn't identify.

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Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57578964-504083/ga-firefighters-hostage-update-suspect-released-one-firefighter-four-still-held-in-suwanee-authorities-say/

[sgsmith]

46. One good thing

It's spring break in the local school system and the elementary school adjacent to the subdivision and the high school across the street aren't full of students.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

48. Just checked and found the house sold in a repo in January.

[fredzachmane]

51. If only guns were illegal

this guy would be breaking the law

[liberal N proud]

52. More GUN - give firefighters guns.

[applegrove]

53. Breaking CNN News email

"A gunman is holding several Gwinnett County, Georgia, firefighters hostage, a police spokesman said.

The hostage situation occurred after the firefighters responded to a medical call at a residence in suburban Atlanta, said police spokesman Ed Ritter.

Five firefighters were initially being held, but one of them was released, a fire department spokesman said.

Follow complete coverage of breaking news on CNN TV, http://cnn.com and CNN Mobile. "

[applegrove]

54. Swat Team went in, killed gunman, a few injuries amongst firemen

[TheCowsCameHome]

58. Is the gunman still dead?

I hope the firemen are ok.

[Blue_Tires]

56. Gwinnett firefighter hostage standoff ends; gunman dead

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local/gunman-holds-5-gwinnett-firefighters-hostage/nXH22/

[24601]

60. So this US citizen was killed by authorities without trial? Shocking (not)...and absolutely

the right decision. Glad that it kept the firefighters alive.

[FiveGoodMen]

71. Would he have been killed if he'd put down his gun and surrendered?

What's your real point, Barack?

[24601]

72. It's not always possible to judge "what ifs" with accuracy. It does seem somewhat intuitive if any

one (US citizen or not) overseas disarmed and gave themselves up to the security officers at a US Embassy, it's unlikely that a harm missile would be launched at them at that point - if for no other reason than to avoid damage to the embassy. I don't believe President Obama's administration would launch on a prisoner in secure custody. Does anybody here (on DU) find that a plausible scenario? To infer that really takes a conspiracy addict.

If there is general agreement on this point, do we have near consensus that one route to avoiding drone targeting is to peacefully surrender?

[FiveGoodMen]

73. Problem is, with drones you don't get a chance to surrender.

But you knew that.

[shenmue]

66. More guns!!1!1!111

That would have helped.

[snooper2]

67. apparently it did, swat team got the asshole