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alp227

(31,994 posts)
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 01:38 PM Apr 2013

Iran plans 'Islamic Google Earth'

Source: The Guardian

The Iranian authorities have long accused Google Earth of being a tool for western spy agencies, but now they have taken their attacks on the 3D mapping service one step further – by planning the launch of an "Islamic" competitor.

Iran's minister for information and communications technology, Mohammad Hassan Nami, announced this week that his country was developing what he described as an "Islamic Google Earth" to be called Basir (spectator in Farsi) which will be ready for use "within the next four months".

"Preparations have been made for launching our world's 3D map project and we are currently creating an appropriate data centre which could be capable of processing this volume of information," the semi-official Mehr news agency quoted Nami as saying on Tuesday.

Nami, a former deputy chairman of Iran's joint chiefs of staff and the armed forces, was appointed by President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad as the new technology minister in February. Nami, who studied political geography in Iran, is also a PhD graduate in "country management" from North Korea's Kim Il-sung University, according to local media.

Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/apr/10/iran-plans-islamic-google-earth

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cstanleytech

(26,202 posts)
1. Yes of course the western nations decided posting satellite images
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 01:50 PM
Apr 2013

online would be the perfect spy tool

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
4. Use your imagination a bit more and some other possibilities may come to mind
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 03:22 PM
Apr 2013

Do you write KML? Other code? Why do they use so many decimal places to encode a coordinate that lacks that resolution? What encrypted information is being written into those file exchanges? What is hiding in plain sight?

cstanleytech

(26,202 posts)
9. Or
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 06:39 PM
Apr 2013

Was there a shooter on the hill? Did a aliens crash at roswell? Did Hitler survive WW2? Does Elvis live?
They are all equally as plausible after all as the ones you listed.

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
7. Actually, this could be kind of interesting.
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 03:59 PM
Apr 2013

Google has made no secret of the fact that many sites in Google Earth are digitally altered or manipulated. Huge chunks of Tel Aviv, for example, are digitally redrawn to hide various government buildings and facilities. Most of the military sites in India are also altered by either being erased entirely, or altered to hide their real size or purpose. There are hundreds of other sites around the world that are similarly altered at the request of various foreign governments, or which are simply "fuzzed" to obscure the details about the site.

Google was largely forced into this by various countries under the threat of being prosecuted, or at least blocked, by their governments. Their transparency site lists the alteration requests, but it's not possible to see the original satellite imagery.

I would assume that Spectator will have no such limitations. This could actually be useful for a lot of people around the world.

cstanleytech

(26,202 posts)
11. If the images were realtime live updates I could honestly understand somewhat why
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 06:47 PM
Apr 2013

some of the governments might not want them to be to clear due to the real risk of terrorists using the intel to plan an attack.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
16. They are not though.
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 03:03 AM
Apr 2013

A lot of the images are quite out of date(months/years). Maybe some governments have more up to date images, but they don't end up on Google.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
20. I don't think it is meant to make sense
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 12:22 PM
Apr 2013

The government puts up these 'feel good' projects to pander to nationalist pride. They do this to draw people's attention away from their social and economic needs, which the right wingers in power have either oppressed or ignored. The nuclear program, the fighter jet, this project and several others can be viewed through this lens. Sadly, enough citizens don't question it much so the government doesn't have to try too hard to convince them. They just get to keep wasting precious resources and effort on boondoggles.

Of course, the US does all these things plus has been bombing third world countries almost continuously for 60 years. And it seems like the government here doesn't need to try too hard to convince its citizens either.

Posteritatis

(18,807 posts)
10. I actually find this interesting
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 06:46 PM
Apr 2013

Both on a technical level and because I've been getting an interest in the lenses through which different cultures would view things like this.

Got maps on the mind a lot lately, fiddling with the larval stages of an historical mapping one flowing out of stuff I've been doing for work.

(I also find the idea of a country management program from a North Korean university interesting, though that's on a straight-up comedic level.)

Heywood J

(2,515 posts)
13. "Nami, who studied political geography in Iran, is also a PhD graduate in "country management" from
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 08:15 AM
Apr 2013
North Korea's Kim Il-sung University, according to local media."


grantcart

(53,061 posts)
14. Because Kennedy-Western University didn't have space.
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 11:12 AM
Apr 2013
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kennedy-Western_University

You almost have to wonder if the Iranian reporter wasn't having some fun with that line.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
18. it sounded ridiculous to me
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 08:27 AM
Apr 2013

but on reading the article there is nothing inherently ridiculous about it.

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