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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Sun Apr 7, 2013, 08:42 PM Apr 2013

Pope completes installation with emotional Rome mass

Source: AFP



Pope Francis on Sunday completed his installation as pontiff at an emotional ceremony in which he formally took possession of Rome's St John Lateran basilica -- the official seat of the city's bishop.

The pope was driven around the square in front of the basilica in an open-topped car with a crowd of thousands chanting "Long live the pope!" and one group holding up a banner reading: "We Love You!"

The leader of the world's 1.2 billion Catholics smiled and kissed children held up to him by members of his security detail, taking off his white skullcap because of the strong wind.

Latin America's first pontiff spoke to and embraced one-by-one a long line of elderly and disabled people in wheelchairs in emotional scenes that drew rounds of applause from the congregation.

Read more: http://uk.news.yahoo.com/pope-addresses-100-000-pilgrims-st-peters-square-101943542.html

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Pope completes installation with emotional Rome mass (Original Post) onehandle Apr 2013 OP
Most people don't realize that St John Lateran is the popes actual Cathedral where his hrmjustin Apr 2013 #1
I like this Pope. Beacool Apr 2013 #2
I like him, in spite of his homophobic views. Aristus Apr 2013 #3
Has he spoken on LGBT issues since becoming pontiff? TrogL Apr 2013 #4
Agree, he's been very quiet. I think he is planning alot of changes. Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #13
His Cardinals have been on full tilt anti gay attack tours Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #15
"His" Cardinals? You really dont get the fact that there are Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #16
I read the link - did he talk English, Latin, italian or something else? Just curious. freshwest Apr 2013 #5
I get the impression that he No Vested Interest Apr 2013 #6
Thanks, I was wondering the UK piece was literal or translated. Although I'm sure that the reporters freshwest Apr 2013 #17
Today most European students study English No Vested Interest Apr 2013 #18
Thanks for that info. I'm very grateful that others take up ESL and tell me about their lives abroad freshwest Apr 2013 #19
We needed a younger more adventurous pope Franker65 Apr 2013 #7
Saying mass is his JOB. It's what priests DO. As for washing feet of any description... Hekate Apr 2013 #10
KnR. So far so good with this one --I am hoping for good things Hekate Apr 2013 #8
i'll wait until he actually *does* something positive.. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #9
He's already doing so. See my post #10. Hekate Apr 2013 #11
I'm rather impressed with pope Francis I CountAllVotes Apr 2013 #12
We forgive you, Francis Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #14
 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
1. Most people don't realize that St John Lateran is the popes actual Cathedral where his
Sun Apr 7, 2013, 09:02 PM
Apr 2013

throne is located.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
2. I like this Pope.
Sun Apr 7, 2013, 09:31 PM
Apr 2013

I never cared for Benedict.

"Latin America's first pontiff spoke to and embraced one-by-one a long line of elderly and disabled people in wheelchairs in emotional scenes that drew rounds of applause from the congregation."

Although I worry for his safety. He likes to be with the people and I fear that someone may do to him what they did to John Paul II.

Aristus

(66,326 posts)
3. I like him, in spite of his homophobic views.
Sun Apr 7, 2013, 09:48 PM
Apr 2013

He seems to embody Jesus' admonition that "he who would be first must be servant of all."

Jesus told a loving, respectful parable about a good Samaritan, at a time when the Samaritans were despised outcasts. If people like the Pope could just read 'gay' for 'Samaritan', the views of the Church might begin to change for the better.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
15. His Cardinals have been on full tilt anti gay attack tours
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 09:41 AM
Apr 2013

his silence about that indicates that the Cardinals are doing what he asked of them. Dolan does the talk shows to spew venom at gay people so Francis can dress up in robes and go play ritual games. They are one voice,one hierarchy, if Francis did not approve of the hate mongering it would cease rather than increase.
He has in the past said gay people are an 'attack on God' and that adoption by gay couples is 'discrimination against children'. He has the arrogance to speak of protecting children while running an organization that has deep legal and spiritual problems from doing harm to children. Hypocrisy is a vile thing.

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
16. "His" Cardinals? You really dont get the fact that there are
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 10:24 AM
Apr 2013

multiple political factions within the church. New Pope having to deal with entrenched power structures. You can label it all you want, it doesnt change the fact that there are polictical hurdles to deal with.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
5. I read the link - did he talk English, Latin, italian or something else? Just curious.
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 01:55 AM
Apr 2013

It's nice that all the disabled people were made to feel welcome there. And I hope he gets his work done.

No Vested Interest

(5,166 posts)
6. I get the impression that he
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 03:05 AM
Apr 2013

doesn't speak English.
Spanish, Italian, & Latin for sure.
May know a little of other language but not comfortable speaking them, especially since he like to speak extemporaneously.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
17. Thanks, I was wondering the UK piece was literal or translated. Although I'm sure that the reporters
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 12:21 PM
Apr 2013

in Europe all speak more than one language, as more than one language was mandatory in school among the people I know there. At least it used to be mandatory they take one or more non-native languages. And all of them I know are fluent in more than one.

No Vested Interest

(5,166 posts)
18. Today most European students study English
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 06:09 PM
Apr 2013

as a second language as that has become the dominant language in communications and the sciences.
That was not the norm in Pope Francis's days as a student.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
19. Thanks for that info. I'm very grateful that others take up ESL and tell me about their lives abroad
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 06:13 PM
Apr 2013
and consider it to be a great gift to us here in America.

Franker65

(299 posts)
7. We needed a younger more adventurous pope
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 03:21 AM
Apr 2013

Washing prisoners feet and saying mass isn't going to change anything....

Hekate

(90,656 posts)
10. Saying mass is his JOB. It's what priests DO. As for washing feet of any description...
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 03:36 AM
Apr 2013

... it is done in imitation of Christ, and is supposed to evoke humility and love (caritas).

However, until this pope came along, the only feet any pope ever washed were priestly feet, because of their not-so-humble status and because (according to them) the disciples were all men (there was a bit of rewritten history, but that's a story for another time).

What makes Pope Francis's action special -- even scandalous to some conservatives -- is that he went to a prison (gasp) and even worse, included two young women (oh, the horror) one of whom is a Muslim (saints preserve us and pass the smelling salts).

He is announcing that the world has changed, and he is demonstrating it by his own actions.

I'm staying tuned for further developments.

Hekate

(90,656 posts)
8. KnR. So far so good with this one --I am hoping for good things
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 03:27 AM
Apr 2013

I notice he's still wearing white instead of those fancy outfits the previous pope liked so much.

 

Phillip McCleod

(1,837 posts)
9. i'll wait until he actually *does* something positive..
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 03:34 AM
Apr 2013

..so far he could be any politician pandering to his constituency.

CountAllVotes

(20,868 posts)
12. I'm rather impressed with pope Francis I
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 06:51 AM
Apr 2013

This man has a very interesting background. He was a psychology/chemistry major in college and went on to obtain his Master's degree in chemistry. He taught chemistry at a university in Argentina and from there he decided to go into the seminary and become a priest.

He's been at this for a long time and working very hard.

He is no doubt a very smart man and I am seeing some small changes at the Church in some positive ways.

He's only been at this job for a few weeks so it is difficult to know what else he will do but so far he is far more impressive to me than than Benedict could have ever been.


 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
14. We forgive you, Francis
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 09:36 AM
Apr 2013

I'm sure he is a good man who simply does not understand what his actions do to others, each day I ask that such people be forgiven, for they know not what they do, and they don't know much else either. May the harm they do be minimized and quickly brought to an end.
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