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KoKo

(84,711 posts)
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 08:21 AM Apr 2013

Official: Obama's budget proposes cuts to Social Security in attempt to compromise with GOP

Source: AP/Yahoo


Official: Obama's budget proposes cuts to Social Security in attempt to compromise with GOP
Associated PressBy Jim Kuhnhenn, Associated Press | Associated Press – 17 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Barack Obama's proposed budget will call for reductions in the growth of Social Security and other benefit programs by including a proposal to lower cost-of-living adjustments to government social safety net spending, a senior administration official says.

The reductions in growth of benefit programs, which would affect veterans, the poor and the older Americans, is sure to anger many Democrats. Labor groups and liberals have long been critical of Obama's offer to Boehner for including such a plan.

The proposal attempts to strike a compromise with congressional Republicans on the Fiscal 2014 budget by combining the president's demand for higher taxes with GOP insistence on reductions in entitlement programs.

The official, who spoke on a condition of anonymity to describe a budget that has yet to be released, said Obama would reduce the federal government deficit by $1.8 trillion over 10 years.

A key feature of the plan Obama is proposing for the federal budget year beginning Oct. 1 is a revised inflation adjustment called "chained CPI." This new formula would effectively curb annual annual increases in a broad swath of government programs, but would have its biggest impact on Social Security.
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Official: Obama's budget proposes cuts to Social Security in attempt to compromise with GOP (Original Post) KoKo Apr 2013 OP
Why would President Obama compromise with terrorists? Scuba Apr 2013 #1
It's not a compromise. kurtzapril4 Apr 2013 #5
How is it what he wanted all along? liberal N proud Apr 2013 #8
He's been making noises about it ever since the Cat Food Commission recomended it Kelvin Mace Apr 2013 #26
Maybe... rosesaylavee Apr 2013 #2
I think you will see it on the front page of the NYTimes Lifelong Protester Apr 2013 #4
***Preserve SS & Medicare & No Chained CPI!-- Two Actions You Can Take!*** KoKo Apr 2013 #6
I tend to agree malthaussen Apr 2013 #7
But you can complain to officials in the meantime to let them know how we feel. Auntie Bush Apr 2013 #17
As to the first, complain away malthaussen Apr 2013 #18
CNN: Obama to propose changes to Medicare and Social Security in new budget HiPointDem Apr 2013 #9
New York Times has the story too liberal N proud Apr 2013 #12
Why is Obama pre-compromising again? NewJeffCT Apr 2013 #3
and the presidency in 2016. combined with the takeover of the fundies at the state level, HiPointDem Apr 2013 #11
Because those who care most about SS will now vote Repugnant michigandem58 Apr 2013 #13
because the democratic party is offering next to nothing to the majority of voters. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #16
Because those who care most about SS vote for Democrats, and if a Autumn Apr 2013 #19
Pretty obtuse reasoning michigandem58 Apr 2013 #27
Sure, right. I'm not seeing the fucking pukes propose cuts to SS Autumn Apr 2013 #28
"I'm not seeing the fucking pukes propose cuts to SS." michigandem58 Apr 2013 #29
Yes I am serious. Obama proposed them Boner rejected them. Autumn Apr 2013 #30
True newfie11 Apr 2013 #15
The usual guess zipplewrath Apr 2013 #21
More of that n-dimensional.. sendero Apr 2013 #10
Thanks Obama newfie11 Apr 2013 #14
Time to contact the White House steve2470 Apr 2013 #20
Great idea. thank you! Babel_17 Apr 2013 #32
Obama 'offering to cut US pensions' for deficit deal dipsydoodle Apr 2013 #22
It makes no difference, papa3times Apr 2013 #23
Even IF you are right about that, this is a very dangerous game he is playing . . . markpkessinger Apr 2013 #35
True. If only we could have a real progressive president sakabatou Apr 2013 #39
I paid this guy out of my disability, twice. caseymoz Apr 2013 #24
What's he going to "compromise" on in the next budget? He's already thrown old people forestpath Apr 2013 #25
A pariah. grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #31
Obama's playing chess again. You can calm down now sakabatou Apr 2013 #33
See #35 below n/t markpkessinger Apr 2013 #36
But when in the future another President Babel_17 Apr 2013 #40
Who won the Fucking election? santamargarita Apr 2013 #34
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2013 #37
In other news. aandegoons Apr 2013 #38
A Ploy? A Bluff zebrastripe Apr 2013 #41
Democrats = slightly slower slide to hell than Republicans cbrer Apr 2013 #42
I just heard him say that he's met them "more than halfway" with his budget. City Lights Apr 2013 #43
 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
26. He's been making noises about it ever since the Cat Food Commission recomended it
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 11:22 AM
Apr 2013

Many of us here predicted it.

rosesaylavee

(12,126 posts)
2. Maybe...
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 08:24 AM
Apr 2013

When I read this somewhere other than Yahoo or AP and the spokesperson has been identified, then I will get upset. But "The official, who spoke on a condition of anonymity" doesn't inspire fear in me yet. It may be they are floating this to see the reaction. If so, let's let them know that this is not a good idea.

Lifelong Protester

(8,421 posts)
4. I think you will see it on the front page of the NYTimes
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 08:32 AM
Apr 2013

still could be a trial balloon, but the Times is reporting this story too.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
6. ***Preserve SS & Medicare & No Chained CPI!-- Two Actions You Can Take!***
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 08:33 AM
Apr 2013

Go here and check out Senator Sherrod Brown's Petition or Call the White House (phone number is in the first Action at the link).

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022614332

malthaussen

(17,187 posts)
7. I tend to agree
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 08:39 AM
Apr 2013

Official, schmicial. I don't trust anonymous sources. It's not like the Press and administration have not been dancing this dance forever. As far as I'm concerned, it is only "official" when the proposal is on the table for all to see. The rest is just panic-mongering.

Not that I disbelieve the implications of the story. The administration may well intend to offer such a deal. But I shall reserve judgement until there is an accountable report.

-- Mal

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
17. But you can complain to officials in the meantime to let them know how we feel.
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 09:02 AM
Apr 2013

If we take ths lying down...they will want even more.

By the way...what are the ReThugs giving in return?

malthaussen

(17,187 posts)
18. As to the first, complain away
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 09:06 AM
Apr 2013

By all means inform the responsible office of your opposition.

As to the second, I doubt the Republicans are "giving" anything. They never have in the past.

-- Mal

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
9. CNN: Obama to propose changes to Medicare and Social Security in new budget
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 08:43 AM
Apr 2013

For Social Security, Obama plans to propose a switch to a key Republican request called "chained CPI," which is an inflation formula.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/05/politics/obama-budget/index.html

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
11. and the presidency in 2016. combined with the takeover of the fundies at the state level,
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 08:44 AM
Apr 2013

we are in for a hell of a good time.

a democrat cut social security, that should pretty much kill the democratic base.

Autumn

(45,056 posts)
19. Because those who care most about SS vote for Democrats, and if a
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 09:16 AM
Apr 2013

Democrat is going to cut it, there's not much of a reason to vote.

 

michigandem58

(1,044 posts)
27. Pretty obtuse reasoning
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 12:46 PM
Apr 2013

Democrats provide a counterweight to GOP desires to cut SS. The more elective offices they hold, the more Democrats can do to preserve it and the less compromising they'll have to do.

Autumn

(45,056 posts)
28. Sure, right. I'm not seeing the fucking pukes propose cuts to SS
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 12:49 PM
Apr 2013
But if you think that works, keep doing it. A blue dog is not a Democrat

Autumn

(45,056 posts)
30. Yes I am serious. Obama proposed them Boner rejected them.
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 01:02 PM
Apr 2013

You might not have noticed that, but some people are kind of pissed about it.

newfie11

(8,159 posts)
15. True
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 08:59 AM
Apr 2013

When both partys want the same thing what good is it to vote.

All the folks that stood in line for 9-14 hours won't do it again.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
21. The usual guess
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 09:25 AM
Apr 2013

Usually, the deduction is that he WANTS to do this, but has been looking to "get" something for doing it. The assertion is that he wants to restructure the entitlement programs as a big part of his legacy. He sees it as "saving "them in some sense.

newfie11

(8,159 posts)
14. Thanks Obama
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 08:55 AM
Apr 2013

I voted for you twice and never in my wildest dream did I think you would do this.

Thanks loads! You are a big disappointment and I guess all politicians are the same!

God help this country!!!!!!

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
20. Time to contact the White House
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 09:24 AM
Apr 2013

Web response form: http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/submit-questions-and-comments

Snail mail: The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20500 (more info here )

Phone calls:
Comments: 202-456-1111
Switchboard: 202-456-1414

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
32. Great idea. thank you!
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 01:58 PM
Apr 2013

Done!

Here's what I wrote.

The proposed Chained CPI is a travesty and a betrayal to those who believed the promises made by President Obama and Vice President Biden.

Allow me to quote VP Biden. “Number one, I guarantee you, flat guarantee you, there will be no changes in Social Security,” Biden said, per a pool report. “I flat guarantee you.”

If the administration persists in this betrayal it will not be forgotten or forgiven. History is watching.


If I might suggest, the quote by Biden, which another DU member pointed me towards, should be brought up a lot.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
22. Obama 'offering to cut US pensions' for deficit deal
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 09:40 AM
Apr 2013

US President Barack Obama is prepared to offer cuts to Americans' pensions to strike a deficit deal with Republicans, a White House official says.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22042555

Apologies for the dupe LBN.

papa3times

(150 posts)
23. It makes no difference,
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 09:52 AM
Apr 2013

if Obama is supporting it they will dismiss it out of hand. Obama is laying another trap for the republicans to walk into. He knows they will not go along with anything he proposes even if it's something they supported just last week!

markpkessinger

(8,392 posts)
35. Even IF you are right about that, this is a very dangerous game he is playing . . .
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 05:32 PM
Apr 2013

. . . and in the longer term, the more air and sunshine he gives to ANY proposal (how ever c"hess-like" his intent might be), the more he lends legitimacy to the very idea in the public discourse.

 

forestpath

(3,102 posts)
25. What's he going to "compromise" on in the next budget? He's already thrown old people
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 11:14 AM
Apr 2013

under the bus.

Who's next in the appeasement sweepstakes?

sakabatou

(42,148 posts)
33. Obama's playing chess again. You can calm down now
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 02:09 PM
Apr 2013

He's just showing that Republicans will vote no for anything Obama proposes.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
40. But when in the future another President
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 08:28 PM
Apr 2013

puts Social Security on the chopping block, how outrageous will it look?

It certainly won't be unprecedented. That President can note that President Obama saw the need for shared sacrifice, compromise, what have you.

And surely the MSM will duly nod their heads and confirm that.

Response to KoKo (Original post)

zebrastripe

(26 posts)
41. A Ploy? A Bluff
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 02:44 PM
Apr 2013

As the President is also proposing many items the republicans will not vote for, is it possible he is just proposing this, knowing it will not pass, just to demonstrate to the public that he is willing to take from the poor, while the repubs are not will to have the wealthy pay their fair share. His action is upsetting people to the point that they are contacting their representatives, etc. He is getting people to act for what they want.

 

cbrer

(1,831 posts)
42. Democrats = slightly slower slide to hell than Republicans
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 04:25 PM
Apr 2013

Where is the voice for the constituencies, if nothing else?

Oh, never mind. The true constituencies are too big to fail.

City Lights

(25,171 posts)
43. I just heard him say that he's met them "more than halfway" with his budget.
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 04:32 PM
Apr 2013

Why would someone BEGIN negotiations by meeting their insane opponent MORE THAN HALFWAY?

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