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alp227

(32,004 posts)
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 09:56 PM Apr 2013

Proposal to allow official North Carolina state religion dead in legislature

Source: AP/WTVD television Raleigh

RALEIGH, N.C. --North Carolina House Speaker Thom Tillis' office said Thursday that a resolution asserting North Carolina has the power to set an official state religion is dead, and won't go any further.

The resolution, filed by two Republicans from Rowan County, declared "each state is sovereign and may independently determine how the state may make laws respecting an establishment of religion" -thereby claiming the federal government and courts have no authority to decide what is constitutional.

Read more: http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/politics&id=9052972

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Proposal to allow official North Carolina state religion dead in legislature (Original Post) alp227 Apr 2013 OP
Those two Rowan county repukes need go back to school. Archae Apr 2013 #1
.1. Those two Rowan county repukes need go back to school. DutchessOfDork Apr 2013 #24
Thank God! longship Apr 2013 #2
Darn! This would have been excellent entertainment. Kablooie Apr 2013 #3
Getting this far shows how brain dead the Republicans and their voters are. nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2013 #4
Well, I would hope so... Hissyspit Apr 2013 #5
At least some Republicans John2 Apr 2013 #6
A no-brainer. WinstonSmith4740 Apr 2013 #7
lol @ your post, WinstonSmith Cha Apr 2013 #13
Yes but it will be resurrected in three days /nt cvoogt Apr 2013 #8
LOL.... nice! 4_TN_TITANS Apr 2013 #17
It's sad to realize that for many Republicans of all stripes stopbush Apr 2013 #9
I think it should always be labeled Cha Apr 2013 #14
Someone actually read the "No Establishment Clause" of the 1st Amendment? muntrv Apr 2013 #10
If you don't already do so, or are unaware of their work Adsos Letter Apr 2013 #11
Thanks for the post. classof56 Apr 2013 #16
I'm glad to hear it! Adsos Letter Apr 2013 #22
Such an excellent point! classof56 Apr 2013 #23
It never was anything more than political theater. onenote Apr 2013 #12
Interesting PADemD Apr 2013 #15
Bullshizz bills are frequently filed in state legislatures. Sometimes struggle4progress Apr 2013 #18
Could be - but with 11 Republican backers, including the House Majority Leader muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #20
Could be. I don't really have much insight into the wackadoodles. struggle4progress Apr 2013 #21
Well, it was brain-dead to begin with. nt eppur_se_muova Apr 2013 #19

Archae

(46,299 posts)
1. Those two Rowan county repukes need go back to school.
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 09:59 PM
Apr 2013

They lost the Civil War, the school integration fight and the civil rights battles.

They need to be re-taught this.

24. .1. Those two Rowan county repukes need go back to school.
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 07:16 PM
Apr 2013

Yes, but they're not aware of ANY of that - especially losing the Civil War.

Kablooie

(18,605 posts)
3. Darn! This would have been excellent entertainment.
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 10:11 PM
Apr 2013

Kind of like watching the Three Stooges hit each other in the head.

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
6. At least some Republicans
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 10:58 PM
Apr 2013

have come to their senses. That law certainly wopuld have been tested. It would have been interesting to see someone get arrested because they didn't honor such a law.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,055 posts)
7. A no-brainer.
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 10:59 PM
Apr 2013

In so many ways. But you have to admit, it is fun watching them back-pedal. We went from

"each state is sovereign and may independently determine how the state may make laws respecting an establishment of religion"
to
"...the bill was only intended to allow Rowan County officials to open their meetings with prayer, not to establish a state religion."
in what, a day? Gotta love 'em. They're such idiots.

stopbush

(24,392 posts)
9. It's sad to realize that for many Republicans of all stripes
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 11:23 PM
Apr 2013

Christianity is the be all and end all of their existence.

Everything they do or say has Christianity and the spreading of that particular social cancer at its base.

What inspires their opposition to gay marriage, women's rights, their hatred of science, etc. Why do they want to open meetings with a prayer? Christianity, at least the way they read it.

Cha

(296,780 posts)
14. I think it should always be labeled
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 12:56 AM
Apr 2013

Hypocritical christiantiy. They use it to hide their evil intentions. Got some people fooled, too.

Adsos Letter

(19,459 posts)
11. If you don't already do so, or are unaware of their work
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 12:17 AM
Apr 2013

please consider giving some support to Americans United for Separation of Church and State.

http://www.au.org/

Barry Lynn and his organization are out there fighting the fight against attempts to impose theocratic elements on American liberty.

I know times are tough for many of us. Many of us can't offer financial support; however, please consider visiting their State Legislative Action Center and making yourself familiar with the ongoing struggles against theocracy around the country. Letter writing, phone calls, just making your acquaintances familiar with the struggle...all of it helps.

https://www.au.org/content/state-action-center


It really is like whack-a-mole out there.

Adsos Letter

(19,459 posts)
22. I'm glad to hear it!
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 07:14 PM
Apr 2013

It always leaves me shaking my head when people start talking about combinations of Church and State. Being in the "in" group today doesn't necessarily mean they'll be in the "in" group tomorrow.

onenote

(42,531 posts)
12. It never was anything more than political theater.
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 12:19 AM
Apr 2013

Designed to rally the crazies and tweak the sane.

struggle4progress

(118,214 posts)
18. Bullshizz bills are frequently filed in state legislatures. Sometimes
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 11:26 AM
Apr 2013

they're filed as a deliberate distraction from other horrid bills, so opponents will waste time on bullshizz

struggle4progress

(118,214 posts)
21. Could be. I don't really have much insight into the wackadoodles.
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 04:41 PM
Apr 2013

At various times, I have seen them file bills which probably wouldn't pass, which seemed to me intended only to deflect public attention from something else: I finally became painfully aware of that sort of sleight-of-hand politics, when I saw it at the national level during Reagan's tenure

But since the House leadership says this won't move at all, I'd guess that's not what's going on here

My best guess might be that the wackadoodles are just waving red-meat-flavored nuggets to their wingnut constituents, since the text contains states-rights keywords, like "Tenth Amendment," much loved by inhabitants of the Twilight Zone

Every now and then, of course, "don't worry it: it won't pass!" is merely a trick to put opposition asleep, as happened a few years ago with the lottery, for which there was actually significant opposition. But a bill here can't move directly from introduction into law, so we'll have some advance notice if it shows its ugly mug again after being sent to committee


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