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antigop

(12,778 posts)
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 09:54 PM Apr 2013

Aetna Seeks To Avoid Obamacare Rules Next Year

Source: Huffington Post

One of the largest health insurance companies in the United States is advising insurance brokers on how to evade new mandates and benefits set to take effect next year under President Barack Obama's health care reform law.

In an email sent to brokers, the insurance giant Aetna explains how they can renew customers' current health plans before Jan. 1, a strategy the Los Angeles Times reported this week is under consideration at other big health insurance companies.

Obamacare includes a number of new rules for health insurance plans that will become law at the beginning of next year, or whenever existing policies expire. By extending customers' plans before then, health insurance companies and their customers can lock in health plans that don't adhere to those rules for up to one more year.

Among the new rules this approach could skirt are requirements that health insurance cover a minimum set of benefits, prohibitions on turning away people with pre-existing conditions, bans on charging higher rates to sick people or to women, limitations on how much extra older people can be asked to pay, and rules against insurance companies refusing to renew policies.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/04/aetna-obamacare_n_3009589.html

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Aetna Seeks To Avoid Obamacare Rules Next Year (Original Post) antigop Apr 2013 OP
Nationalize healthcare, seize the assets of all health insurance companies. onehandle Apr 2013 #1
+ 1,000 SoapBox Apr 2013 #4
Not so easy. Angleae Apr 2013 #7
When did you last read the 4th Amendment? JDPriestly Apr 2013 #9
Only if we are to accept the premise Volaris Apr 2013 #14
But they are owned by people who do (stockholders). Angleae Apr 2013 #15
How easy would it be to get that through Congress? Freddie Stubbs Apr 2013 #12
I left Aetna and my healthcare went down 50% thanks to President Obama and Horizon graham4anything Apr 2013 #2
+1 davidwparker Apr 2013 #11
Link to the LA Times article antigop Apr 2013 #3
Good to know Politicalboi Apr 2013 #5
Evidently the other insurers are looking at this as well, according to the LA Times article. nt antigop Apr 2013 #6
Do you think they're in business for YOUR health? cbrer Apr 2013 #8
I'm so glad I dropped them. judesedit Apr 2013 #10
I'm so glad they dropped ME. AngryOldDem Apr 2013 #18
UNFORTUNATELY my Retirement is attached to Aetna bigdarryl Apr 2013 #13
That should be considered the same as tax dodging.. and-justice-for-all Apr 2013 #16
I just wish there was a hell so those fuckers Zoeisright Apr 2013 #17
Didn't many of us here see that coming when the Health Insurance Profit Protection Act was passed? Occulus Apr 2013 #19
Yes Yo_Mama Apr 2013 #22
You can bet the repukes will try to help them. tabasco Apr 2013 #20
That is one of the rules, not an evasion of the rule Yo_Mama Apr 2013 #21

Angleae

(4,479 posts)
7. Not so easy.
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 11:46 PM
Apr 2013

The 4th amendment prohibits nationalization without due process of law (and compensation thereof).

Volaris

(10,266 posts)
14. Only if we are to accept the premise
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 09:28 AM
Apr 2013

that Corporations maintain the same Constitutional Rights as PERSONS. I say they don't...

Angleae

(4,479 posts)
15. But they are owned by people who do (stockholders).
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 05:18 PM
Apr 2013

No corporation owns itself. You would have to reimburse all the stockholders, or at least common stockholders.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
2. I left Aetna and my healthcare went down 50% thanks to President Obama and Horizon
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 10:35 PM
Apr 2013

was $3100.00
now its $1500.00
couldn't do this 12 months ago
NO lifetime cap
and they didn't block pre-exisiting conditions.

100% due to President Obama

some work it early
some want to delay it

ta ta aetna. It was a long forced relationship that had on our part a happy breakup.

Thank God for President Obama. As said, I couldn't do this last year and was trapped.

Everyone who benefits so far or when they do, shout it from the roof.
Because people want to sabatoge it and go backward

It's a great move forward. And even more great moves are coming.

The genius of moving slowly forward is the door was opened, and they perservered enabling more tomorrow and more the day after tommorrow and more and more and more and more
til the end goal is reached

Whereas some wanted nothing and the status quo.

President Obama made history happen.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
5. Good to know
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 11:39 PM
Apr 2013

My mother has Aetna, so we will be looking soon to change that before they hold us hostage. I hope they go broke.

 

cbrer

(1,831 posts)
8. Do you think they're in business for YOUR health?
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 12:07 AM
Apr 2013

Nope. Their bottom line's health.

Lots of money for killing.

Little funds for healing.

Welcome to America!

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
18. I'm so glad they dropped ME.
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 12:00 PM
Apr 2013

I'm self-insured and I had Aetna as my health policy. I guess they didn't like what my state was doing vis a vis insurance, so they pulled out. I've found a much better, more comprehensive, and cheaper plan (as of right now) that I am very happy with. So far my new plan has covered every claim that's been submitted for me. Can't be happier.

Fuck Aetna.

 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
13. UNFORTUNATELY my Retirement is attached to Aetna
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 09:20 AM
Apr 2013

I don't pay anything but then again they don't cover everything either like Testosterone therapy and plastic surgery

Zoeisright

(8,339 posts)
17. I just wish there was a hell so those fuckers
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 01:35 AM
Apr 2013

would burn in it. Insurance company execs have to be the scum of the earth. They literally kill people and make themselves millions doing it. FOAD, Aetna.

Occulus

(20,599 posts)
19. Didn't many of us here see that coming when the Health Insurance Profit Protection Act was passed?
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 01:44 PM
Apr 2013

And when HIPPA (aka the ACA) was passed, didn't we get shouted down by the cheerleaders who said this just simply couldn't possibly ever happen?

Sometimes I hate being right.....

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
22. Yes
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 02:22 PM
Apr 2013

Somehow this mass delusion - that all of a sudden insurers would stop acting like insurers - has been very persistent.

But now that the thing is really going into effect, we're all going to discover that if you shift more control to the worst-functioning part of a system, the system will begin to function even worse.

Who could have dreamed???

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
21. That is one of the rules, not an evasion of the rule
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 02:20 PM
Apr 2013

If you make the rules that way, one shouldn't be surprised if everyone does this.

Perhaps this rule should not have been issued!!!!

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