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Faygo Kid

(21,478 posts)
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 03:03 PM Apr 2013

Inhofe: Prepare preemptive strike 'right now' on North Korea

Source: The Hill

Sen. James Inhofe (R-Okla.) said that the United States should be prepared to launch a pre-emptive strike "right now" against North Korea, warning that its "deranged" president Kim Jong Un could attempt a nuclear attack on America.

“We should be prepared to do it right now,’’ Inhofe, the ranking member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, told Newsmax TV’s “The Steve Malzberg Show’’ on Wednesday.

“In terms of the capability we have out there with the F-22s and the battleships … a pre-emptive strike from something like that would get their attention.’’

Inhofe went on to say that Kim Jong Un, unlike his father, was not a reliable actor that could be reasoned with. . .

Read more: http://thehill.com/video/senate/291827-inhofe-pre-emptive-strike-would-get-the-attention-of-deranged-north-korean-leader



With video. Madman rejects any steps to combat climate change but wants to initiate combat through preemptive war. Typical for him, I guess.
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Inhofe: Prepare preemptive strike 'right now' on North Korea (Original Post) Faygo Kid Apr 2013 OP
They just want this on Obama's watch, not theirs in 2016 cbdo2007 Apr 2013 #1
theirs kardonb Apr 2013 #46
Good one! mimi85 Apr 2013 #52
haha, sorry cbdo2007 Apr 2013 #63
Inhofe or Kim Jong Un-- hard to say who's more "deranged...." mike_c Apr 2013 #2
+1 Inhofe, just another piece of the republican menace. wandy Apr 2013 #6
Well since Kim never said anything about "preemptive" striking....Inhofe /nt Ash_F Apr 2013 #18
Actually he has defacto7 Apr 2013 #51
Actually, do you have a quote? Ash_F Apr 2013 #54
Just do some searches... defacto7 Apr 2013 #57
Nope, not there. Don't spread lies. /nt Ash_F Apr 2013 #69
You're funny! defacto7 Apr 2013 #71
An admission that you were wrong would be more mature. /nt Ash_F Apr 2013 #73
Here's a story about it: TwilightGardener Apr 2013 #81
Quote is unsourced, nor is it even allegedly from Kim. Ash_F Apr 2013 #82
Inhofe. Jong-Un is just the pantsless emperor. Scootaloo Apr 2013 #55
Some Repubs never saw a war they did not like. Third Doctor Apr 2013 #3
Except the wars THEY might have to fight in. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2013 #75
they really don't care about the future of this earth, or its people.... NRaleighLiberal Apr 2013 #4
North Korea does? davidn3600 Apr 2013 #58
That's a whole lot different than 'preemptive' Matariki Apr 2013 #60
so we should overreact and get ourselves into something unspeakable instead? NRaleighLiberal Apr 2013 #62
Battleships? atreides1 Apr 2013 #5
maybe they will send in some ironclads next octothorpe Apr 2013 #39
USS Constitution where are thee demosocialist Apr 2013 #45
"Old Ironsides" is currently berthed in Boston Art_from_Ark Apr 2013 #47
Maybe he wants to challenge Kim Jong Un to a game of Battleship LongTomH Apr 2013 #48
"Inhofe, the ranking member of the Senate Armed Services Committee" DollarBillHines Apr 2013 #77
"Preventive war was an invention of Hitler"--President Eisenhower JoeBlowToo Apr 2013 #7
I guess this is his idea of toning down the hostile rhetoric as the Pentagon has advised. StrayKat Apr 2013 #8
In other news... Javaman Apr 2013 #9
We're always prepared to do that "right now". bluedigger Apr 2013 #10
We are prepared for a pre-emptive strike. That doesn't make it the right thing to do. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2013 #11
Ah! Newest Reality Apr 2013 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author guyton Apr 2013 #13
In this case, no, technically. Socal31 Apr 2013 #67
We're still technically at UN Sanctioned war with North Korea, so a strike would not be a war crime. stevenleser Apr 2013 #76
Zip your pants back up, Inhofe Canuckistanian Apr 2013 #14
After the monkeys have finished flying out of your butt Blue Owl Apr 2013 #27
what battleships, dumbass? DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2013 #15
As a resident of Oklahoma I apologize for this nutcase of a US Senator! redstatebluegirl Apr 2013 #16
I was born in Oklahoma, but it's Inhofe and his ilk who make me grateful... classof56 Apr 2013 #23
Thanks we try our best.... redstatebluegirl Apr 2013 #25
What a chicken-shit he is, in addition to being a complete idiot arcane1 Apr 2013 #17
Yup Andy Stanton Apr 2013 #20
"Follow the money". xtraxritical Apr 2013 #19
Good Presbyterian... MoreGOPoop Apr 2013 #21
Inhofe's ideas are more dangerous than North Korea's bluster. WHEN CRABS ROAR Apr 2013 #22
Fuck you, you crazy old warmonger. bullwinkle428 Apr 2013 #24
hey, Inhofe: STFU!!! lastlib Apr 2013 #26
Give that bastard a gun and send him over there. upaloopa Apr 2013 #28
Can we wait until they "hit us first?" Trillo Apr 2013 #29
NK Has NO HEAVY(20,000 lbs) nuke-capable Missile Delivery System tout_le_monde Apr 2013 #30
Of course all John2 Apr 2013 #49
Are you a closet bush CRIME family fan? tout_le_monde Apr 2013 #53
Shush, grown-ups are talking psychopomp Apr 2013 #64
Yes, and Iraq's WMD's presented an imminent threat as well Hugabear Apr 2013 #70
A preemptive strike on a nuclear country Tempest Apr 2013 #31
I have a better idea: Change Inhofe's name to "Jackhofe" demwing Apr 2013 #32
Holy cow ! pangaia Apr 2013 #33
My in-laws are in Seoul. Inhofe has now directly threatened them, wielding NK as his weapon. n/t yodermon Apr 2013 #34
Every Democratic Senate candidate needs to run with one plank being that Inofe should not be chair karynnj Apr 2013 #35
I support a US alliance w/ S. Korea distantearlywarning Apr 2013 #36
Stupidity, meet Inhofe. Inhofe, meet Stupidity. nt steve2470 Apr 2013 #37
Inhofe needs to get his flabby old ass on the Korean DMZ cliffordu Apr 2013 #38
"battleships" LMFAO ...where's our DeathStar? n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #40
Any congressman talking about battleships disqualifies himself from having an opinion on defense. Posteritatis Apr 2013 #41
we should fire on NK now, only instead of using nuclear weapons, we should fire on them with.. olddad56 Apr 2013 #42
He's probably got a direct "red" phone from Haliburton HQ Left Coast2020 Apr 2013 #43
Fine! Let's drop James Inhofe over N. Korea! muntrv Apr 2013 #44
Wouldn't that violate the biological warfare provisions of the Geneva Convention? nt GliderGuider Apr 2013 #68
Yes, dropping a manure bomb would be a violation. muntrv Apr 2013 #83
Why didn't Bush preemptively strike North Korea when they did their first test in 2006? TwilightGardener Apr 2013 #50
NO MORE JINGOISM! bubbayugga Apr 2013 #56
I guess what Sen. Inhofe is saying is "we shouldn't wait until the smoking gun is a mushroom cloud" Douglas Carpenter Apr 2013 #59
We all know the best thing to do when faced with a cornered crazed animal is to scare it more. Locut0s Apr 2013 #61
NK isn't cornered--it's feeling LESS vulnerable. They finally appear to have TwilightGardener Apr 2013 #65
Fine, Inhofe, you go fight the North Koreans, keep Americans out of it. Tender to the Bone Apr 2013 #66
Fine by me. KamaAina Apr 2013 #72
(unverified) report of B-1 deployment to Guam Bosonic Apr 2013 #74
Tyler Durden, whoever he is, is an idiot. TwilightGardener Apr 2013 #78
Shut the hell up Inhofe...not gonna happen. and-justice-for-all Apr 2013 #79
North Korea vs Iran... JohnyCalgary Apr 2013 #80
War mongering at its finest Franker65 Apr 2013 #84

mimi85

(1,805 posts)
52. Good one!
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 01:11 AM
Apr 2013

I don't want it on anyone's watch. It's not a friggin' game. Damn, that kid is more psycho than his father!

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
63. haha, sorry
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 09:22 AM
Apr 2013

just trying to be realistic and the chances of us winning again after 2 consecutive terms isn't very likely. I'll be out here fighting for the Dem nominee though, so don't worry about that.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
51. Actually he has
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 12:47 AM
Apr 2013

said that many times. Almost every time they make a statement they say they will strike pre-emptively at their will.

But we don't need to add another name to the "idiots in power" list. Inhofe is not what I consider a reasonable person and I really don't see any difference between the two.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
57. Just do some searches...
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 02:20 AM
Apr 2013

it's in most of the rhetoric. I'm sure you'll find it. I'm not taking the time as it's just there. If you are interested you will see it.

edit: here I help you... google this: north korea preemptive strike

have fun!

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
82. Quote is unsourced, nor is it even allegedly from Kim.
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 03:32 PM
Apr 2013

I long for a time of real journalism and a readership that could still recognize what real journalism looks like.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
58. North Korea does?
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 02:33 AM
Apr 2013

If they start shooting at us or our allies....what do you propose we do other than respond with military force?

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
60. That's a whole lot different than 'preemptive'
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 04:01 AM
Apr 2013

Which would probably draw China into the mix, and do we really want to go *there*?

atreides1

(16,073 posts)
5. Battleships?
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 03:07 PM
Apr 2013

The last time I checked the remaining battleships were floating museums! Inhofe is just another warmonger whose strings are pulled by the MIC!

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
47. "Old Ironsides" is currently berthed in Boston
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 08:57 PM
Apr 2013

No doubt she's raring to see some military action for the first time since the Civil War

 

JoeBlowToo

(253 posts)
7. "Preventive war was an invention of Hitler"--President Eisenhower
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 03:09 PM
Apr 2013

“Preventive war was an invention of Hitler. I would not even listen to anyone seriously that came and talked about such a thing.”

― Dwight D. Eisenhower

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,999 posts)
11. We are prepared for a pre-emptive strike. That doesn't make it the right thing to do.
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 03:16 PM
Apr 2013

The military prepares many many strategies and tactics; which is as it should be.

There are very few scenarios where a pre-emptive strike against NK makes sense, and all of them have high risk.

However, the reptile brains ruling the Republican party and the teabaggers just Want To Do Something, Anything, to lash out and strut their stuff and swagger and act big.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
12. Ah!
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 03:16 PM
Apr 2013

I was waiting for them to start crawling out of their septic tanks and start blathering about North Korea.

It's an extremist, warmongering poo-tailed hawk opportunity to get some press and speak up for the insanity contained within. Somebody has to do it.

I wonder if they draw lots, point at one of their own and say, "your turn" or if it is just some random form of emergent chaos manifesting as a big, drooling mouth connected directly to defense contractors?

No offense to septic tanks, BTW.

Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)

Socal31

(2,484 posts)
67. In this case, no, technically.
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 12:07 PM
Apr 2013

But I don't think technicalities bring comfort to the thousands of troops and civilians that would no doubt be slaughtered should this thing pop off.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
76. We're still technically at UN Sanctioned war with North Korea, so a strike would not be a war crime.
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 07:55 PM
Apr 2013

But... that brings up the point that an attack would not be a "preemptive strike", so Inhofe isn't using the right terminology.

Still, it's stupid thing for him to suggest. There's always time for war. Better to try not to have war.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
15. what battleships, dumbass?
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 03:29 PM
Apr 2013

We have mothball capabilities with our battleships. You'd think a member of the Senate Armed Svcs Committee might know something about that.

classof56

(5,376 posts)
23. I was born in Oklahoma, but it's Inhofe and his ilk who make me grateful...
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 04:11 PM
Apr 2013

my parents left there when I was barely old enough to walk. Haven't been back since, except for a brief visit with a cousin in Tulsa a few years ago. Appreciate your efforts to change things for the better. A thankless task, I'm pretty sure!

Blessings and best wishes.


lastlib

(23,216 posts)
26. hey, Inhofe: STFU!!!
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 04:16 PM
Apr 2013

No one is interested in your stupid, bellicose "opinion". Just remember what your last opinion on war got us!

. .

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
28. Give that bastard a gun and send him over there.
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 04:20 PM
Apr 2013

Easy to talk tough when you don 't have to back it up.

Trillo

(9,154 posts)
29. Can we wait until they "hit us first?"
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 04:26 PM
Apr 2013

Perhaps a standoff can be maintained that way. It may not be an optimal kind of peace, but it's a lot better than being the big bully who hits first and then dares anyone else to do something about it.

And another very relevant question, is Can We Afford it? Given that we can't even get a budget going, it seems the answer is, "No, we cannot."

 

tout_le_monde

(23 posts)
30. NK Has NO HEAVY(20,000 lbs) nuke-capable Missile Delivery System
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 04:32 PM
Apr 2013

Last edited Fri Apr 12, 2013, 12:46 AM - Edit history (5)

With a 20,000 lb curb weight, the nuclear bomb that North Korea has devised can't be lofted by ANYTHING in their current launch inventory (No-dong, Taepodong-2, Unha-3, KN-08). Of course it is possible the North Koreans have a much lighter and weaponized A-Bomb or H-Bomb (not likely), but I seriously doubt it is rocket launch vehicle-ready and has significant yield.

Why do I have this opinion:
http://www.iiss.org/publications/strategic-dossiers/north-korean-dossier/north-koreas-weapons-programmes-a-net-asses/north-koreas-nuclear-weapons-programme
http://www.armscontrol.org/act/2013_03/Prelude-to-an-ICBM%3FPutting-North-Koreas-Unha-3-Launch-Into-Context

North Korea's Rocket Launch Vehicles:
Based on the size of the missile, the fuel composition, and the likely fuel capacity, it is estimated that a two stage variant would have a range of around 4,000 km (2,500 statute miles) and a three stage variant would be capable of reaching as far as 4,500 km (2,800 statute miles), giving it potentially the longest range in the North Korean missile arsenal.[2] The burn time of each stage is a little over 100 seconds, thus allowing the missile to burn for 5 or 6 minutes. Speculative variants of the missile could be capable of a range of approximately 9,000 km (5,600 statute miles).[4] At maximum range, the Taepodong-2 is estimated to have a payload capacity of less than 500 kg (~1,100 lbs).

Reference Links:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taepodong-2
http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/2013/03/28/no-north-korea-cant-hit-hawaii

Latest News from the Cold Warriors/Nuclear Arms Race Instigators:

"North Korea probably has advanced its nuclear know-how to the point where it could arm a ballistic missile with a nuclear warhead, but the weapon wouldn't be very reliable," the Defense Intelligence Agency has concluded.

--
Here we go again with the cherry-picked/phony/fabricated "intelligence" ever-fanning the flames of war. It doesn't matter who is our President. These conscienceless, immoral, asshole war mongers keep attempting to get the U.S. into armed conflict while always hiding in the shadows, and like rust and cancer, never sleep. The President won't stand up to them. He essentially takes his marching orders from them. So, what else ISN'T new?

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
49. Of course all
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 10:08 PM
Apr 2013

that information is speculative, depending on how good your intelligence reports are on North korea's nuclear program. Nobody really knows. There have been second hand and third hand reports from satellite imaginery and defectors. There are also intelligence reports that North korea's nuclear capability is far more advanced than some expect, such as from Pakistani reports.

One Pakistani scientist, that was prosecuted for trading nuclear knowledge indicated North Korea's nuclear program was even far more advanced than Pakistan's. They did share information on how to miniaturize nuclear weapons to fit their missile systems for lighter pay loads. They may have the technology to fit torpaedoes with warheads also carried by submarines and bombers. The last nuclear test they conducted may have been with that technology. That is what's unknown. This regime is very secretive and the best military strategy would be what the opposition don't know. It is either a bluff, or they are telling the truth. The only way one would know is a War itself.

 

tout_le_monde

(23 posts)
53. Are you a closet bush CRIME family fan?
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 01:20 AM
Apr 2013

Because you sure sound like a throwback to those horrible days of lying to Congress and the Public about Iraq's non-existent WMDs. Why don't you just fucking enlist as a ballistic missile pilot already?

psychopomp

(4,668 posts)
64. Shush, grown-ups are talking
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 10:54 AM
Apr 2013

Go to your room and do NOT come out until you have read up on--just about everything.

Hugabear

(10,340 posts)
70. Yes, and Iraq's WMD's presented an imminent threat as well
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 02:03 PM
Apr 2013

Yawn, we've heard all this before.

Are you willing to send your kids or loved ones to the DMZ to fight North Korea?

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
32. I have a better idea: Change Inhofe's name to "Jackhofe"
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 04:37 PM
Apr 2013

the name fits better, and might give this war-mongering jack-off something else with which to occupy his time...

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
33. Holy cow !
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 04:40 PM
Apr 2013

This man is the ranking member of the Senate Armed Services Committee?
OMG ! Ties his hands and feet and throw him in the Mississippi River.

karynnj

(59,501 posts)
35. Every Democratic Senate candidate needs to run with one plank being that Inofe should not be chair
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 04:41 PM
Apr 2013

of Armed Services.

He is a complete disaster. He may be worse on this than as "Chair of the Flat Earth Caucus".

distantearlywarning

(4,475 posts)
36. I support a US alliance w/ S. Korea
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 05:24 PM
Apr 2013

I hope we have their backs if/when Doughboy Dictator decides to act.

But this is just fucking stupid. Inhofe needs to sit down and shut up immediately. This kind of rhetoric is no better than the crap coming out of North Korea right now. Lord preserve the rest of us sensible people from the dickswinging, blustering morons in all corners of the globe...

On Edit: Wait, I have a better idea. How about a televised cage match between Inhofe and Kim Jong Un to settle this whole deal? Whoever loses has to go to time out and a nap.

cliffordu

(30,994 posts)
38. Inhofe needs to get his flabby old ass on the Korean DMZ
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 05:53 PM
Apr 2013

Give the motherfucking shitsucking cretin a rifle and a helmet and let's go.

Hell, I'm 61 and I'll volunteer to go unarmed just to carry his combat load.

I'd do it just to see the look on his face at three am when a flare goes off and HE as to stick his head up to look for movement in the wire.


Fucking gutless chickenhawk posers acting tough for a sound bite while 18 year olds pull the weight.

IF there was any justice in this world......


Posteritatis

(18,807 posts)
41. Any congressman talking about battleships disqualifies himself from having an opinion on defense.
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 06:30 PM
Apr 2013

That said, I'd be fourteen different kinds of stunned if forces in the area weren't ready for such a thing; whether they actually have to or not it'd be prudent.

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
42. we should fire on NK now, only instead of using nuclear weapons, we should fire on them with..
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 06:38 PM
Apr 2013

republican politicians. Just load them all up in B52s and drop em like bombs.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
50. Why didn't Bush preemptively strike North Korea when they did their first test in 2006?
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 11:09 PM
Apr 2013

That would have been the time to do it. Oh, that's right, we didn't want trouble. We were too busy nation-building the country we struck preemptively that had no nukes.

Locut0s

(6,154 posts)
61. We all know the best thing to do when faced with a cornered crazed animal is to scare it more.
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 04:18 AM
Apr 2013

I'm sure the US has more than one North Korean war plan on the books anyway.

Yeah preemptive strike we all know how well that went in Iraq. If you are going to preemptively strike a nation you better be willing to stay there for the long haul and rebuild and clean up the mess. This would actually be good in NKs case but I'm sure we don't have the money or will to do it. Not to say anything abut the possibility of sparking off WWIII and sending the world into a depression.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
65. NK isn't cornered--it's feeling LESS vulnerable. They finally appear to have
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 11:31 AM
Apr 2013

some nuclear capability, and they are just starting to use it now, to threaten everyone and their grandma. If they were feeling that they may be attacked, they'd mobilize their armed forces and move things around. Instead they're just loading up a couple missiles and doing a ton of trash talk. Not saying those missiles couldn't have something scary on them, because they actually might be lunatics...

 
66. Fine, Inhofe, you go fight the North Koreans, keep Americans out of it.
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 11:38 AM
Apr 2013

Then when you cause WWIII, we'll know *exactly* who to blame.

And ends Republicans forever.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
72. Fine by me.
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 04:01 PM
Apr 2013

As long as the Senator is prepared to reprise Slim Pickens' role in Dr. Strangelove, or How I Learned To Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
78. Tyler Durden, whoever he is, is an idiot.
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 08:50 PM
Apr 2013

There's no cat or mouse game or escalation. He sounds like a breathless dumbass.

and-justice-for-all

(14,765 posts)
79. Shut the hell up Inhofe...not gonna happen.
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 10:48 PM
Apr 2013

China will not allow NK to destabilize the entire region and neither will Japan.

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