N. Korea approves nuclear strike on US

[charlie and algernon]

Source: Yahoo News

The North Korean army said Thursday it had final approval to launch "merciless" military strikes on the United States, involving the possible use of "cutting-edge" nuclear weapons.

In a statement published by the official KCNA news agency, the General Staff of the Korean People's Army said it was formally informing Washington that US threats would be "smashed by... cutting-edge smaller, lighter and diversified nuclear strike means".

"The merciless operation of (our) revolutionary armed forces in this regard has been finally examined and ratified," the statement said.


Read more: http://za.news.yahoo.com/n-korea-approves-nuclear-strike-us-194403045.html

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Again, if true, why announce it to the world beforehand? You would just do it.

[dlwickham]

1. 2 choices

either they've completely lost their minds or this is a damn good April Fool's joke that's gone on a bit too long

[charlie and algernon]

2. I blame the kid President

If Obama hadn't abdicated to that kid on April 1st, this would all be over by now.

[iandhr]

3. Re: You would just do it.

Not necessarily.

As Dr. Strangelove said "the whole point of the doomsday machine is lost if you keep it a secret"

[darkangel218]

4. That guy is completely insane.

[Malik Agar]

6. I don't think its just him

This whole thing looks like a big time power struggle in the leadership. Kim is having to do this shit because he needs respect from the generals or else he'll be disposed of.

[darkangel218]

12. That may be the case. However, i dont think his generals are any better. they all sound brainwashed

And out of touch with reality. I don't know if they.even care about their country.. they act like they have to "win" this war no matter what. Extreamly dangereus loons.

[Malik Agar]

17. Yeah

It's not like it it makes any difference to everyone else in the world whats going on behind the scenes. The only thing that really matters is that it is an incredibly dangerous situation to the rest of us.

[Blue_Tires]

43. He must be trying to "impress chicks" back home

[Renew Deal]

5. So when are they going to do it?

[LeftofObama]

9. That's my reaction.

I'm too old to be threatened. Either do it, or don't. Shit or get off the pot.

[Lasher]

10. The winter solstice?

This time for sure.

[DinahMoeHum]

7. Nana nana poo poo booga booga booga.

derp

[Iliyah]

8. The young dictator who have been condition

from infanity sound like he's craving for attention from the US especially from Pres O. He is acting like a spoiled rich child but in this case he does have some military might and I do think they will try and use it. Again, another insane dictator with back-up from China and USSR, Iran, and maybe Cuba, and probably more.

[Diclotican]

37. Iliyah

Iliyah

Just to point out out - it is more than 20 year since USSR was any treat to anyone - as it is more than 20 year since USSR was devolved into Russia - and 15 new states, who have struggled ever since to really find their way in the world....

When it come to PRC, I'm not sure PRC is "in the corner" of the DKPR. As the current leadership have stated pretty clear, that they are not amused about DKPRs actions - specially the last nuclear device they blow up -made Beijing everything other than happy.. And unusable for PRC, a rather angry foreign minister told the world about how they was displeased with the actions of DKPR..

Iran is not even close to DKPR - and I doubt they will do anything stupid in their area of influence - even thought the _danger_ for anything to happened is there, the interest of DKPR and Iran is far from the same..

Cuba - I doubt Cuba will do anything to go to war with USA, and with the world, when supporting DKPR... The geographic and political scene is so different in Cuba - and DKPR, so I doubt Cuba will risk what they have been able to do, the last 15 years - to play on that stage.. The current leadership in Cuba, is not stupid enough to lose everything they have managed to build up - and will continue to build up in the years ahead.. Not to say, when USA and Cuba finally got on a friendly page - and ordinary trade and commerce can start in earnest...

In this DKPR is more than just withouth friends - I doubt they wil find any allies either - I doubt PRC wil risk the last 20 year of progress, over DKPR...

Diclotican

[Autumn]

11. So now I can use all that practice of sitting in the school

under my desk? Who knew it would come in handy over 55 years later. wonder where I can find a school desk I can fit under

[darkangel218]

13. Lmao!!!

[Autumn]

15. Go on ahead and laugh. Those school desks will work in event of a nuclear attack.

Honestly, my teachers said so.

[iandhr]

27. Bert the Turtle

[Frustratedlady]

16. Good one! eom

[woodsprite]

19. I don't know about you, but I can't bend that way anymore!

Guess I'm just screwed in that event.

[Autumn]

22. Yeah there is that slight problem with me too. We can find a school and sit in the

hallway and cover our heads with our hands. Or a friendly neighborhood bar might work just as well.

[formercia]

23. Duck and Cover.

[Yo_Mama]

61. More reason to stick to your diet

Does anyone actually believe these people?

What's going on?

[Autumn]

71. I went on a diet once. My Husband told me "Honey, clothes come in bigger sizes"

That worked for me.

[Mika]

14. I know someone who's smiling over this ...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/may/09/nuclear.northkorea

[Archae]

18. Pyongyang if they drop a nuke anywhere...

[olddad56]

20. War, what is it good for?

[angrychair]

21. Darkness approaches

Posted something crude and changed my mind...doing this instead:
You don't enter into war. You don't choose it. You don't declare it. It engulfs you like the darkness of a setting sun.

[Diclotican]

39. angrychair

angrychair

Very well written - And I have to admit - I stole it for my face book page - as a statement I shear as well.. Hope you are not to offended by it..

Diclotican

[angrychair]

56. Thank you

Very kind of you

[Socal31]

24. No more name calling, no more laughing. This is not good news.

A Nuclear state just said publically they have approved the final plans to nuke us, possibly in the next two days.

At this point all bets are off. We (the US) may even act preemptively now. This is not a Iraq situation, this is what real wars start over.

Edit: Actually this is still an ongoing war. Even worse.

Bad news. Bad news.

[cali]

28. breath easy. they do not have the capability.

And the U.S. will certainly not take preemptive action.

[Socal31]

31. My head is not in the sand unfortunately.

The Chinese are amassing troops, jets, and armor near the NK border.

NK has said they are at war with the SK

They said they are going to possibly hit US interests with a nuke

And now today, they gave more specifics.


It is human nature to project our rationale and logic onto something/someone completely different than us. They don't need a nuke to wipe out more people than we did in Japan.

Miscalculations and fanaticism have started more than one war. I am glad we are showing restraint, but you can bet this is replacing almost everything else on Obama's schedule right now.

[cali]

40. you reallly need to inform yourself a wee bit better.

first of all, no fucking duh that NK is at war with SK. That's been their position for well over 60 years . Secondly, it is doubtful that China is amassing troops in support of North Korea.

Reports of China's massing troops on the border usually accompany the word "support," as in, openly supporting North Korea.

But that contradicts two things: China's "angry" statements on Kim Jong-Un's "bellicose rhetoric," and the location of all that nuclear material right across the border.

<snip>

As one post from Chinese news site Global Times put it:

Even if North Korea's nuclear development is only targeted at the U.S., its nuclear programs will bring huge risks to China rather than the U.S. The third nuclear test in February was conducted only just over 100 kilometers away from China's northeast border.

http://in.finance.yahoo.com/news/one-possible-reason-chinese-military-225754168.html

Virtually every expert thinks it not possible for North Korea to launch a nuclear attack on the U.S. And if you don't think the U.S. has the capability to intercept anything they launch, you really haven't been paying attention.

<snip>

The US Department of Defense said on Wednesday it would deploy the ballistic Terminal High Altitude Area Defense System (Thaad) in the coming weeks.

<snip>

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22021832

Yes, the President is undoubtedly paying close attention to this matter.

I'm not projecting anything. I'm informed and paying attention. It's difficult to know what kim jong un will do. He could, of course, act irrationally and launch a significant attack on South Korea and that would set off a chain of events that would be very bad indeed. And then there's the possibility that kim isn't fully in charge.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Military/2013/0403/Kim-Jong-un-Can-US-trust-North-Korea-leader-to-act-rationally

Anything is possible. The question to ask is: Is it more likely than not.

[davidpdx]

60. I'd listen to what Cali is saying

The US has more than proven that if North Korea did attack, we are fully capable of making it the last one.

China has troops on the border of North Korea in case Kim gets itchy fingers. They'll come in and take things over.

[olddad56]

44. they don't have the capability to do what?

They might not have the capability to hit the US mainland with a nuclear warhead. But They certainly have the capability to hit South Korea. You might find this hard to understand, but the South Koreans are people. They may not be American's but they are real people. And we have military bases in South Korea.

I think you are saying breath(e) easy because you are only concerned about yourself. What would the US position be if N.K. attacked S.K. Have you really thought this through? Then what if China and Russian get involved?

[davidpdx]

59. They don't have the capability to deliver a nuclear warhead

There are two things they could do: shoot conventional missiles and fire artillery. I strongly believe there is an anti-missile shield in South Korea. As for the artillery, that is the bigger problem. The only way to stop that is to launch offensive missiles and/or airstrikes.

As someone else said, I doubt this is going to happen. I live about 36 km from the boarder of NK and I can tell you everything is business as usual.

[Macoy51]

69. Time for a Drone Stike??

I think you are right; we should not launch a preemptive strike. However; this puts Obama in a no win situation. If he launches a preemptive strike against North Korea, he is a war monger who is just trying to divert attention from his failed economic policies. If Obama does nothing and lets NK nuke us first, then Obama is a weak president who will stand by and allow a foreign enemy to kill tens of thousands of Americans. And of course the repubs will keep quite until Obama makes his decision and will lambast him reguardless of what that desicion is.

This would be a great time for a drone strike.


Macoy

[olddad56]

29. totally agree.

I think that N. K. could attack S.K. and we would be forced to retaliate.

In 1969, April 15th (or 16th, depending on where you were at the time it happened) N. K. shot down an unarmed Navy Electronic Surveillance plane. I was connected to that incident. People have no idea how close we came to war over that incident. It would not surprise me to see N. K. do something this year to remind us of that day. The anniversary of that incident is always recognized as being 4/15, but where in happened and where I was, it was 4/16. I lost some good friends that day.

[Diclotican]

41. olddad56

olddad56

That is something I have never heard about - but I'm not suprised by it.. The DKPR have a long "tradition" on making this things, like shooting down airplanes - or shelling Iceland's off the coast of South Korea.. I'm sad for your loss, good friends is not easy to find - and to keep is even more difficult...

War is hell - and I hope this one can be made without a war - but I am afraid the new leadership in DKPR is in the mood for some war now.. Hopefully it will never be - but I think the US President is doing the right thing - to show restraint - and to be carefully about the cards he play out....

If DKRP really goes on with the war - ROK, and USA have to retaliate to defend them self.. Something that will force others in this game to also show their cards - something I doubt either Russia PRC, Japan and others want to show their cards - before they are ready to do it... I believe Beijing and Moscow is summing with discussing about what to do with DKPR... For some reason I believe neither Beijing or Moscow want to play into the cards of DKPR anymore..

Diclotican

[olddad56]

45. thank you for your kind words. If you are interested, you can google VQ-1 PR21.

It is coming up on 44 years, I was a 20 year old kid then, but it seems like yesterday.

[Diclotican]

49. olddad56

olddad56

I will definitely google about C1-1 PR21. History is a kind of hobby for me - ancient as new - so I'm gratefully about new information about the past - the cold war had many secrets that just now is starting to be known to a greater publicum

When you are 20 year old, you should be worrying about everything else than the possibility of ending up dead...

Diclotican

[olddad56]

52. I don't know what you get if you google C1-1 PR21 but

if you google VQ-1 PR21, you will find a lot of stuff. The Navy squadron was VQ-1, and the plane was PR21.

[Diclotican]

53. olddad56

olddad56

I have read some on google about it - interesting to read about the VQ-1 PR21 (The other was more about my lack of typing than some other stuff ) It is somewhat interesting to se how close the US indeed was, for a war with DKPR.. And it is also interesting to se that USSR and USA was able, at least on this case work together to find debris - and even a little hope for some who survived - even thought it was less than hopefully about the later..

Again, I'm sad about your loss of friends - but at least you remember them, so in a way, they are not forgotten - even thought they are not longer here anymore.

Diclotican

[olddad56]

66. the russian's were there to look for classified gear and information as much as they were to help.

over the years there have been rumors that there were survivors that the Russian's captured, but I don't think that is true. If you are truly interested in stuff like this related to the cold war, read 'By Any Means Necessary" written by William E. Burrows.

[Diclotican]

68. olddad56

olddad56

I know - the russians was rather found about looking for gears and information, when they had the chance to look closer up on western tech - but to be honest, so was the West, when it come to russian gear and information to..

I will try to find that book, as the cold war is a interesting part of our history - I'm born in the very late stages of the cold war (1976) so I have not really experienced what it was about - even thought I do remember some of what happened in the 1980s - and specially the end of he cold war - the end of the berlin wall - and the end of the USSR.. But many of the details, I have learned of by reading about it, in later ages.. And some from my parents who was very interested in many things over the years .. I was also lucky enough to live in a household where it was a lot of books from different ages - so I guess it comes from there too.

Diclotican

[Yo_Mama]

62. I hope you are wrong about wanting war

It does seem like this is a different type of escalation, though.

I don't think he can bomb the US with missiles, but maybe a dirty bomb smuggled in is possible. But I am really afraid for the Koreans, who are sitting on the hot seat. And since most of the people in that miserable country are really prisoners, I am sorry for the population of North Korea. Aren't their lives enough hell now?

This is just utterly sad.

[Diclotican]

67. Yo_Mama

Yo_Mama

I am definitely against wars - and I do not hope for war - if what I wrote is even reasonable to translate it to support.. DKPR are in no shape to go to war against their "enemies" even if they want to.. But I fear, the young leader Kim Jung Un, and the group who is around him, have lost touch with the reality - or that they are desperate enough to risk a war with ROK, and with US...

The life in DKPR is hell enough - a war will be devastating for DKPR, and it would just end up in a far worse situation for the population in DKPR - and also for ROK, who would have to rebuilt itself - and maybe even to rebuild DKPR, as the country will be in no shape to do it herself.. It is a horrible situation anyway you look at it...

War is hell - war is bad...

Diclotican

[Yo_Mama]

70. I did not think you were expressing support for war

Just that you were expressing a strong suspicion that this administration was more serious than we would hope.

Yes, of course there are a lot of things that NK could do that would force a war. The US does have treaty obligations to SK, and they can't be abandoned. It's not just a matter of whether they can hit us - it's a question of whether they will attack their neighbors.

Crazy people - and you may well be right that this is an insulated group that has effectively developed its own conception of reality - can always force violence on the rest of us. It grows increasingly hard to see the current government in North Korea as entirely sane.

My post was just an emotional expression of appalled horror at the prospect. I do realize history tells us that we cannot count on such governments always being wise or even remotely rational.

In one way or another, it seems that the West has been forced to confront the limits of human rationality recently.

[Art_from_Ark]

65. There was also the USS Pueblo incident of 1968

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Pueblo_(AGER-2)

[musical_soul]

58. Time to pray......

and hope we can do something to encourage Kim against this insanity.

[Dash87]

73. You can relax. NK hasn't even mobilized their troops.

This is a little tantrum and nothing more. For starters, if you were going to launch a preemptive nuclear strike, you wouldn't announce it to the world.

They want to terrorize through a series of bluffs. This is their usual MO, but a bit more outlandish.

[bravenak]

25. We can end this tonight if we wanted.

Just use our drones to drop them the same stuff we have here. Food, k-pop, crates of stuff from Costco, iPads, smart phones. They will forget about him, instantly. Costco has great sheet cakes.

[Socal31]

26. It is all fun and games and jokes, right?

The fact that NK would announce this, knowing that we would have every legal right to respond to the threat, means that they (the leadership) wants war.

I feel for civilians and US/ROK troops near the DMZ right now

[bravenak]

30. No. I find dictators ridiculous. This one in particular for some reason.

He can't feed his people, but he's running around threatening the largest nuclear power on the planet? With nukes? We should curry favor with the people by providing them much needed food and goods. And information via those smartphones. It could open up the world for them. Starving is not funny. And he is full of it, he won't do anything.

[Socal31]

32. Curry favor with the people?

They are isolated, brainwashed, and do not benefit from food aid. It goes to the military.

This time is different than the last rounds of rhetoric for many reasons.

[bravenak]

38. Yes, curry favor. Be friendly.

I would rather they overthrow their own dictator, and for us to provide humanitarian aid and food supplies.

[Tarheel_Dem]

51. And who secures the nukes while we're "being friendly", and waiting for an overthrow that ain't.....

never gonna happen?

[bravenak]

54. He is never going to use any nukes if he has any with the capability to reach us.

I'm tired of these dictators trying put on a show. He is a clown. I have no problem being friendly to the people and feeding them.

[Nevernose]

63. I think carpet bombing with food should be seriously considered

Rice and candy and canned meat products, each emblazoned with an American flag and a smiling Obama. It would certainly be much cheaper, in both lives and materiel, than dropping bombs.

[longship]

33. Highly unlikely NK has a functional nuke.

Let alone a deliverable one. Their three tests look very much like failures. Their missiles are a bit dodgy, too. Even if they have a functional nuke, it is very unlikely that it has been weaponized, let alone put in a form to fit on their rockets.

I don't believe anything NK says about what they can do. None of it!!!

[zappaman]

34. I approve of myself dating Scarlett Johansson

Let's see what happens first...

[Socal31]

35. This could be China's moment to announce itself on the world stage.

Use those troops and tanks and jets they are amassing on the NK border and overthrow the regime. Instantly the international community should resume massive food shipments to the population. The concentration camps can be liberated.

[TwilightGardener]

36. Well, isn't that just shitty. This boy doesn't know when to quit.

[Jon Ace]

42. Call their bluff, Obama!

With words, not missiles, of course.

[TwilightGardener]

55. Now is not the time for "bring it on!" though. Just to be clear.

[Shankapotomus]

46. Wait a second. I think I just figured out

what's behind these threats from N. Korea. This is the month of April. It's an April Fools joke! Ahaha, that Kim Jong-um. Ya got us, man!

I mean, that has to be it. Nobody would be that nuts, right?

right?

[L0oniX]

48. The real April Fools joke is coming from the same assholes that helped run up a war with Iraq...

but they learned their lessons and won't do that again ...will they.

[L0oniX]

47. Yahoo News LMAO ...you aren't really checking them for news are ya?

I gotta wonder why after what the bull shit news corps did (or did not do) before Iraq that anyone believes anything from almost any new source anymore.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

50. Yahoo is just an aggregator.

AFP is the news agency.

[GitRDun]

57. On the one hand

I cannot help but notice the irony of the situation:

Iraq never threatened us and had no nukes or other WMD. We invaded their country at the cost of thousands of lives and billions of $$$.

North Korea actually does have nukes and is actually threatening us and we do nothing!

On the other hand,

I picture North Korean soldiers looking like World War I equipped goofs, sitting in trenches watching three stooges re-runs on their breaks...hahahahahahaha

[hrmjustin]

64. I certainly hope this is just some sort of a stunt.

We don't need another war.

[Dash87]

72. Lol this is such bs.

If they were going to do something, they would just do it. This is laughable at this point.