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steve2470

(37,457 posts)
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 02:24 PM Aug 2020

TikTok To Sue Trump Administration Over Ban, As Soon As Tuesday

Source: NPR

TikTok is planning to sue the Trump administration, challenging the president's executive order banning the service from the United States.

The video-sharing app hugely popular with the smartphone generation will file the federal lawsuit as soon as Tuesday, according to a person who was directly involved in the forthcoming suit but was not authorized to speak for the company. It will be filed in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of California, where TikTok's American operations are based, the person said.

NPR has learned that the lawsuit will argue that President Trump's far-reaching action is unconstitutional because it failed to give the company a chance to respond. It also alleges that the administration's national security justification for the order is baseless, according to the source.

"It's based on pure speculation and conjecture," the source said. "The order has no findings of fact, just reiterates rhetoric about China that has been kicking around."

Read more: https://www.npr.org/2020/08/08/900394707/tiktok-to-sue-trump-administration-over-ban-as-soon-as-tuesday

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in2herbs

(2,944 posts)
1. I would love to see this occur. When trump refuses to respond to their subpoenaes or turn over
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 02:26 PM
Aug 2020

discovery how will the court rule? and how soon will the courts rule?

LeftInTX

(25,126 posts)
5. They will be requesting an injunction
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 02:47 PM
Aug 2020

The justice department will be handling it from Trump's end.

The justice dept is claiming that Tik Tok has a security issue.

Really there isn't going to be much to see.
This happens from time to time. At issue is whether Tik Tok actually poses a security threat etc. And how serious is this security threat and whether an executive order can ban Tik Tok...stuff like that.

in2herbs

(2,944 posts)
6. They are going to need documentation to support an injunction and you can't get that without
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 02:50 PM
Aug 2020

discovery.

reACTIONary

(5,768 posts)
11. I'm not an expert, but...
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 05:39 PM
Aug 2020

... from following news stories, an injunction is based on the
primafacie likelihood that the suit will succeed and whether or not irreparable harm would be done if the action was allowed to go forward before a judgement could be made. So I don't think discovery has anything to do with it.

LeftInTX

(25,126 posts)
12. There is some documentation that Tik Tok is a security issue
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 06:06 PM
Aug 2020

As to whether it is severe or what the deal is, I don't know.

I've seen President Obama's executive orders gets shredded by the court.

Nothing happens except the order gets shredded. They aren't going to do anything to Trump. They aren't going to find anything salacious or anything weird. Either the order will stand or it won't.

bucolic_frolic

(43,044 posts)
2. Is Trump only doing this because Tik-Tok users reserved his rally tickets?
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 02:27 PM
Aug 2020

Is that the connection?

Trump might see that as national security because it shrunk his rally. Trump thinks he's the State.

Nikki28

(557 posts)
3. This sex offender
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 02:33 PM
Aug 2020

and his E.O is too much. He has lost his mind. I do not know what Nancy has planned, but they better come up with something with this nut-job gas-lighting this country. He is going to break through at some point if he has no-one to counter him. Is they E.O he is doing even legal? I thought congress has the purse strings. He seems to have set this whole thing up to gas light the US to think the Dems do not want to help the middle class and he is coming to the rescue. This is why Nancy and Chuck and their lawyers and managers needs to be on this to have a press conference right after he does his. Joe needs to hire the L.P to help him run his campaign to counter this crap. My fear is by the end of the day,US will think Trump came to the rescue.And why would they think any different if no one counter this? The Democrats needs to get on the ball and start speaking to the American people. Get some of those bad asses to step in front of this.I hate our party is so weak. This is not the time to be we the people because we are in the fight of our lives.Honestly,;if they can't counter this, than perhaps it is time to just pack up and go home.

bucolic_frolic

(43,044 posts)
8. Our party is not weak. We will not go home.
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 03:25 PM
Aug 2020

Weakening us with faint praise seems a strategy to soften our appeal that Trumpers would welcome. I'm always suspicious when newbies aren't very thrilled with us.

AC_Mem

(1,979 posts)
13. Easy to break this down
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 03:02 PM
Aug 2020

This has nothing to do with China in 45's eyes. Think back to the 2011 White House Correspondents Dinner, when President Obama roasted 45 like a fat marshmallow. What we have seen for the last almost 4 years is such a deep hatred for that humiliation that he has literally tried to kill everything that President Obama gave life to.

Now, think about what our BRILLIANT kids did not so long ago when they made him look like an idiot by ordering nearly a million tickets to an event, just to humiliate him with a tiny turnout after his campaign bragged (and evidently believed) that they had that huge of a crowd willing to face exposure to a killer virus - a million people! - only to find out that they had been played by a demographic that they weren't counting on - our youth.

How was this giant hoax against 45 played out? Through TikTok.

So now, just like his plan to punish President Obama (and he could care less who he also hurts in the process), he is now going to take away the kid's toy and cancel TikTok.

There is nothing deeper to this that that. He is a playground bully and is getting even for what the youth did to him at that event.

Annette

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