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JoeOtterbein

(7,697 posts)
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 09:25 PM Jul 2020

Harris allies granted call with Biden campaign after Dodd blowup

Source: Politico

Allies of Kamala Harris sought and received a meeting with Joe Biden’s campaign staff this week after a leader of his vice presidential vetting team was quoted doubting whether she’d be a loyal No. 2.

Prominent supporters of the California senator asked for the virtual sit-down on the heels of a POLITICO report Monday that Harris is not a lock for VP. It quoted former Sen. Chris Dodd, one of four members of the vetting unit, remarking to a prominent Democratic donor that Harris had “no remorse” for attacking Biden during a debate last year. Biden’s campaign at the time viewed the attack — Harris went after Biden for opposing a school busing program — as a cheap shot contrived to make him look racially insensitive.

That story and another recent POLITICO report detailed that a contingent of Democrats is lobbying against Harris to be chosen as Biden’s running mate.

The conference call included several of the state’s highest-ranking elected officials and labor and business leaders, including Lt. Gov. Eleni Kounalakis, Secretary of State Alex Padilla, San Francisco Mayor London Breed, state schools chief Tony Thurmond, state Treasurer Fiona Ma and Chad Griffin, a Democratic consultant and former head of Human Rights campaign, according to organizers.

Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/31/harris-allies-biden-call-dodd-389848

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Harris allies granted call with Biden campaign after Dodd blowup (Original Post) JoeOtterbein Jul 2020 OP
Some lobbied for her ... left-of-center2012 Jul 2020 #1
Harris JGug1 Aug 2020 #32
And ... left-of-center2012 Aug 2020 #35
Harris is no help in criminal justice reform kiri Aug 2020 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author trueblue2007 Jul 2020 #2
You left out a word. n/t Stand and Fight Aug 2020 #23
Whomever Joe picks is fine with me. Joinfortmill Jul 2020 #3
This! +10000 paleotn Jul 2020 #6
Agreed. TDale313 Jul 2020 #10
agreed - and a lot of the attacks against her are racist and mysonogystic..... getagrip_already Aug 2020 #36
Political. nt sheshe2 Jul 2020 #4
Politics is not a game for the feint at heart.... paleotn Jul 2020 #5
+1 nt JoeOtterbein Jul 2020 #8
I wonder who leaked all this to Politico...? regnaD kciN Jul 2020 #19
I never read Politico... AZ8theist Aug 2020 #28
If he picks her for VP that's fine with me MustLoveBeagles Jul 2020 #7
Same ananda Jul 2020 #18
Harris As AG JGug1 Aug 2020 #33
A man who fought hard during the primaries TDale313 Jul 2020 #9
Yup. More of the same. Merlot Aug 2020 #31
The article also indicated PatSeg Jul 2020 #11
I think it just annoys a lotofpeopleand the infighting is not good for party unity delisen Jul 2020 #12
Kind of like a mini primary I suppose PatSeg Jul 2020 #13
I believe that George H.W. Bush went after Reagan harder in the primaries than Senator Harris went Sloumeau Jul 2020 #14
Excellent point. AZ8theist Aug 2020 #29
I'd really like to hear/see "the short list" James48 Jul 2020 #15
Duckworth and Harris both became Senators in 2016. raging moderate Aug 2020 #26
It was a cheap shot, in my humble opinion. Hulk Jul 2020 #16
Politics ain't bean-bag, as the saying goes... lastlib Aug 2020 #20
Agree 100% Hulk Aug 2020 #24
Agree DeminPennswoods Aug 2020 #25
Never in recent memory, has the concept of being a heartbeat from the presidency question everything Jul 2020 #17
I think it's foolish to hold her hit at Joe in a debate. Everyone on that stage was looking for napi21 Aug 2020 #21
Chris Dodd misses being relevant. NellieStarbuck Aug 2020 #22
Chris Dodd left-of-center2012 Aug 2020 #27
and then Dodd looks around, and seeing nothing.... AZ8theist Aug 2020 #30
Clyburn told PBS yesterday hed rather have a black woman on the supreme court than VP jcgoldie Aug 2020 #34
There's no perfect choice. Iggo Aug 2020 #38
Dodd needs to STFU. He is not helping. yellowcanine Aug 2020 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author yellowcanine Aug 2020 #40
Coincidence? "Joe Biden delays VP announcement another week" Baclava Aug 2020 #41
BIDEN/HARRIS 2020! MrsCoffee Aug 2020 #42
If this is true, I think she's trying too hard. hamsterjill Aug 2020 #43

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
1. Some lobbied for her ...
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 09:34 PM
Jul 2020

Others against her.

I still think, as I've said before, it will not be one of those frequently being mentioned.

We'll soon know.

JGug1

(320 posts)
32. Harris
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 11:23 AM
Aug 2020

Harris would be vulnerable on a couple of fronts. The worst is that she reportedly laughed when asked about her own marijuana use while having sent a fair number of people to prison for using. Her attack on Biden would be featured. It appears to me that she is not the right candidate.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
35. And ...
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 11:31 AM
Aug 2020

Her presidential campaign failed, with her dropping out, before the first primaries, caucuses.
Guessing Biden needs a better campaigner?

kiri

(786 posts)
37. Harris is no help in criminal justice reform
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 11:50 AM
Aug 2020

She has opposed the Innocence Project. Even re-prosecuted a man found wrongfully imprisoned. She accepted huge moneys from police unions and never brought a single prosecution against police misconduct.

Response to JoeOtterbein (Original post)

getagrip_already

(14,250 posts)
36. agreed - and a lot of the attacks against her are racist and mysonogystic.....
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 11:46 AM
Aug 2020

She is too driven. She wants to be potus too much. She is aggressive. She doesn't speak well. She isn't liked....

Where have we heard these types of arguments before? Oh yeah, every time a strong female and/or minority becomes a front runner in anything.

Reality check people. A lot of your anti-harris arguments are petty and superficial.

Joe will make his own choice. No matter who he chooses, someone will be bent out of shape because it isn't there choice.

paleotn

(17,781 posts)
5. Politics is not a game for the feint at heart....
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 09:50 PM
Jul 2020

Seems Dodd needs to put on his big boy shoes. It was a tough primary fight. Things were said. Stale, weak soup really, but dear god, folks, let it go. If you want a super duper loyal BFF in politics, I suggest taking Truman's advice and visiting an animal shelter. Lots of cute cuddlies who'd love to curl up in your lap and do your bidding. I don't expect such behavior from a qualified VP. We don't need a Pence clone.

regnaD kciN

(26,035 posts)
19. I wonder who leaked all this to Politico...?
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 11:44 PM
Jul 2020

If it was Harris's "people," it's a bad move. Now, if Biden picks her, it will look like he "gave in" to a pressure campaign by them.

If it wasn't them, well, the only person who could benefit from Biden being made to look weak is...I wonder if we have a mole problem.

AZ8theist

(5,339 posts)
28. I never read Politico...
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 09:45 AM
Aug 2020

But isn't Politico a hotbed of "both siderism"? Always looking for the "democrats in disarray" angle?

If so, I wouldn't waste 10 milliseconds on this....

MustLoveBeagles

(11,563 posts)
7. If he picks her for VP that's fine with me
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 09:52 PM
Jul 2020

I wasn't thrilled with what she did during that debate but if Joe's doesn't hold a grudge over it I won't either. Personally I think she's better suited to be Attorney General.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
9. A man who fought hard during the primaries
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 09:56 PM
Jul 2020

And was being considered as a possible number 2 would not be facing the same criticisms for being “too mean” In fact, being willing to throw punches so the top of the ticket can appear above the fray is often seen as a benefit. Just sayin’.

PatSeg

(46,804 posts)
11. The article also indicated
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 09:58 PM
Jul 2020

that Biden won't announce his VP pick next week, but the 2nd week in August. Kind of frustrating, but it is good publicity for his campaign at a time when he can't hold rallies. Draw out the suspense.

PatSeg

(46,804 posts)
13. Kind of like a mini primary I suppose
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 10:06 PM
Jul 2020

but as I recall, people do recuperate quickly and the media will keep Biden in the news cycle.

Sloumeau

(2,657 posts)
14. I believe that George H.W. Bush went after Reagan harder in the primaries than Senator Harris went
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 10:07 PM
Jul 2020

...after Biden. Among other things, Bush called Supply-Side Economics "Voodoo Economics". Still, Reagan picked him as VP and threby united the Republican Party. Saying you should not pick someone who was tough on you during the primary is nuts.

AZ8theist

(5,339 posts)
29. Excellent point.
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 09:49 AM
Aug 2020

I very clearly remember the "voodoo economics" jab. It hit home.

Funny thing is, 40 years later GHWB was proven right. IT WAS (AND IS) VOODOO Economics.

We didn't get "trickled down" , we got pissed on....

James48

(4,416 posts)
15. I'd really like to hear/see "the short list"
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 10:32 PM
Jul 2020

The last few VP picks haven’t come with a lot of study- if really like to see a list of perhaps five to eight that are seriously being considered, so that we all could hear, see, and debate who they are, and the advantages and disadvantages of each, BEFORE he makes his pick.

I wasn’t pleased with Harris earlier, but the more I hear and look at her, the more comfortable I am that she could handle it. But I want that same study for the others. I heard Duckworth, but I think she is too new on the Senate level. I’d like someone with more years of experience, I think. There are other good candidates as well. Can we please get a short list together, and maybe start talking about them in a “shortlist “ thread?

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
16. It was a cheap shot, in my humble opinion.
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 11:08 PM
Jul 2020

There were a few others as well...but you know, that's politics baby. It's the way the game is played in these types of races. Should she apologize? I think it's water under the bridge. She tried to dislodge VP Biden and rattle his cage, and she did it pretty well. I thought at the time it was a cheap shot, and a long shot cheap shot; but that's the way the game is played. Senator Warren had a few, so did Mayor Pete....and others as well. Everyone was trying to knock the other off balance and take the lead. She missed. She didn't accomplish what she wanted, but she threw it out there. She had a point, but I think attacking Biden directly as the cause for her riding a bus across town when she was a little kid was a long reach.

Move on. This race is about getting EVERY repuKKKe GOPutin puppet out of government. If Senator Harris gets the VP job, she'll be great. She'll kick that little percy ass kisser's butt right out from behind his podium, and "mama will be upset" because he debated a woman....tsk, tsk.

lastlib

(22,981 posts)
20. Politics ain't bean-bag, as the saying goes...
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 12:03 AM
Aug 2020

Sometimes the best allies you can have are the folks who roughed you up way back when. Sen. Harris did prove that she could throw a good punch, and that could be a valuable skill against AnusMouth. I'll certainly take her on the ticket, just as I would anybody down to, and including, an old rusty Dodge hubcap (and I LOATHE Dodge products).

question everything

(47,265 posts)
17. Never in recent memory, has the concept of being a heartbeat from the presidency
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 11:11 PM
Jul 2020

been so front and center.

And if anyone is being offended, or want to alert than take your head out of the sand. This is real!

Harris could not even get her presidential campaign right, how can anyone expect her to be able to step in if Biden cannot complete his term?

In general, I wish, not that my opinion matters much, that the running mate should be evaluated on these qualities, not on "identity."

When Bill Clinton was looking at a running mate, he said how strange it felt, like selecting Hillary next husband..


napi21

(45,806 posts)
21. I think it's foolish to hold her hit at Joe in a debate. Everyone on that stage was looking for
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 12:36 AM
Aug 2020

something that would get voters to remember THEM! All of the candidates were bracing for hits on them because they were in a competition to be the last one standing. I'm hoping Joe will pick her for his VP because I recognize Joe is older than most nominees have been and we all have to think ahead of election day. He needs someone who really could be President if called upon to do so. IMO there's only one other woman in the group he is choosing from & that is Elizabeth Warren. The only reason I didn't say Warren as VP is because I think it would be a mistake to have both candidates on the ticket be over 70. The other candidates all didn't have enough experience.

Before you all start berating me for picking on older people, I'm 78 & I know how some people think those over 70 have one foot in the grave!

NellieStarbuck

(265 posts)
22. Chris Dodd misses being relevant.
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 12:39 AM
Aug 2020

He should enjoy his lobbying and retirement and leave governance to the under-80 crowd.

AZ8theist

(5,339 posts)
30. and then Dodd looks around, and seeing nothing....
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 10:02 AM
Aug 2020

picks HIMSELF as VP, a la Dick Cheney?

UGH!! Just joking......even we're not that stupid.

jcgoldie

(11,584 posts)
34. Clyburn told PBS yesterday hed rather have a black woman on the supreme court than VP
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 11:28 AM
Aug 2020

I understand the sentiment but he could also be laying cover for Joe’s pick. If that’s the case I think Duckworth is very likely.

yellowcanine

(35,692 posts)
39. Dodd needs to STFU. He is not helping.
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 06:51 PM
Aug 2020

First rule of serving in a selection committee: keep EVERYTHING CONFIDENTIAL.

Response to JoeOtterbein (Original post)

hamsterjill

(15,214 posts)
43. If this is true, I think she's trying too hard.
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 11:50 PM
Aug 2020

Amy Klobuchar took her name out of the running for the good of the country.

I feel like Kamala Harris should let the process work and if she’s Biden’s choice, well then that’s fine. But I feel like she’s lobbying for the job a little too much.

There’s nothing wrong with assertively presenting her qualifications, but if at this stage of the game, she’s having to correct things with Chris Dodd, it just doesn’t feel right to me.

That said, if she is the pick, I’ll shut up and never say anything negative about her again.

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