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50 Shades Of Blue

(9,777 posts)
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 05:51 PM Jun 2020

From pandering to Putin to abusing allies and ignoring his own advisers, Trump's phone calls alarm U

Source: CNN

(CNN)In hundreds of highly classified phone calls with foreign heads of state, President Donald Trump was so consistently unprepared for discussion of serious issues, so often outplayed in his conversations with powerful leaders like Russian President Vladimir Putin and Turkish President Recep Erdogan, and so abusive to leaders of America's principal allies, that the calls helped convince some senior US officials -- including his former secretaries of state and defense, two national security advisers and his longest-serving chief of staff -- that the President himself posed a danger to the national security of the United States, according to White House and intelligence officials intimately familiar with the contents of the conversations.

The calls caused former top Trump deputies -- including national security advisers H.R. McMaster and John Bolton, Defense Secretary James Mattis, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, and White House chief of staff John Kelly, as well as intelligence officials -- to conclude that the President was often "delusional," as two sources put it, in his dealings with foreign leaders. The sources said there was little evidence that the President became more skillful or competent in his telephone conversations with most heads of state over time. Rather, he continued to believe that he could either charm, jawbone or bully almost any foreign leader into capitulating to his will, and often pursued goals more attuned to his own agenda than what many of his senior advisers considered the national interest.

These officials' concerns about the calls, and particularly Trump's deference to Putin, take on new resonance with reports the President may have learned in March that Russia had offered the Taliban bounties to kill US troops in Afghanistan -- and yet took no action. CNN's sources said there were calls between Putin and Trump about Trump's desire to end the American military presence in Afghanistan but they mentioned no discussion of the supposed Taliban bounties.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/29/politics/trump-phone-calls-national-security-concerns/index.html

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From pandering to Putin to abusing allies and ignoring his own advisers, Trump's phone calls alarm U (Original Post) 50 Shades Of Blue Jun 2020 OP
Ok, We're Almost Four... jayfish Jun 2020 #1
No kidding. The fact that this is considered "late breaking news" is an abomination. Merlot Jun 2020 #3
Well it is all coming out now...I guess Mr. Trump has taken on the CIA. Stuart G Jun 2020 #2
great segment on cnn with carl Bernstein about this article..... riversedge Jun 2020 #4
Cadet Bone Spurs knows more than all his Generals... Lock him up. Jun 2020 #8
He's a treasonous piece of excrement. SergeStorms Jun 2020 #18
Turkish President Erdogan calling Trump directly on the golf course. Trump acting like a lunatic on riversedge Jun 2020 #5
"Trump's calls with female leaders were 'near sadistic'" calling Germany's Angela Merkel and the UK' riversedge Jun 2020 #6
Kick and recommend for visibility bronxiteforever Jun 2020 #7
Who could ever have foreseen such a thing? maxsolomon Jun 2020 #9
Next! keithbvadu2 Jun 2020 #10
The stupid MFer still has a 40% approval rate, are we worth saving? I've never had a worse outlook. OverBurn Jun 2020 #11
Hoover got 40% of the vote in 1932! denem Jun 2020 #14
Trump incessantly boasted to his fellow heads of state,...about his own wealth, genius, "great" acco riversedge Jun 2020 #12
as the RWNJ's like to say... dem4evah Jun 2020 #16
.. the President regularly bullied and demeaned the leaders of America's principal allies, especiall riversedge Jun 2020 #13
Merkel would wipe the floor with the piece of shit... dhill926 Jun 2020 #15
I read the whole article Lasher Jun 2020 #17
Heckuva job Trumpy Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2020 #19

jayfish

(10,035 posts)
1. Ok, We're Almost Four...
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 05:58 PM
Jun 2020

years into this shit-show and still responding with "alarm"? The time for such a pedestrian response is f'ing over.

Stuart G

(38,365 posts)
2. Well it is all coming out now...I guess Mr. Trump has taken on the CIA.
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 06:01 PM
Jun 2020

Maybe not? Where is this information coming from?? Who are we to believe?
Are we to believe .." unnamed sources" ? (oh, some of the sources are named)
oR..are we to believe....Donald Trump??...Number 1 Liar in the World
...........What do you think?
...........I know who I believe...

Lock him up.

(6,874 posts)
8. Cadet Bone Spurs knows more than all his Generals...
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 06:25 PM
Jun 2020

Lock him up!
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Lock him up!
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SergeStorms

(18,903 posts)
18. He's a treasonous piece of excrement.
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 10:03 PM
Jun 2020

As such, he should be executed. May I suggest public hanging in Lafayette Park across from the White House at high noon on Election Day, November 3, 2020. Vice-Asshole Pence can take the treasonous bastard's place on the rethuglican ticket. His life will be spared, although I don't know why.

Trump's lifeless, bloated, stinking body will hang in place in Lafayette Park for one week. It should then be cut down and micturated upon by every United States citizen wishing to do so, for a period of one week. Then the corpse should be released to the family to dispose of any way they should choose. I suggest removing the head (to be buried in a separate grave from the rest of the corpse) and he should be buried face down with his hands tied behind him. His grave will be unmarked, he should be given no special honors, and his name will forever be stricken from the annals of United States history.

No that I hold a grudge or anything, mind you.

riversedge

(69,727 posts)
5. Turkish President Erdogan calling Trump directly on the golf course. Trump acting like a lunatic on
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 06:18 PM
Jun 2020



Turkish President Erdogan calling Trump directly on the golf course. Trump acting like a lunatic on calls with Merkel, Putin, and others.



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riversedge

(69,727 posts)
6. "Trump's calls with female leaders were 'near sadistic'" calling Germany's Angela Merkel and the UK'
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 06:20 PM
Jun 2020

trump was talking of himself with those descriptors.


“Trump’s calls with female leaders were ‘near sadistic’” calling Germany’s Angela Merkel and the UK’s Theresa May “weak” “stupid” “spineless”.


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denem

(11,045 posts)
14. Hoover got 40% of the vote in 1932!
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 07:21 PM
Jun 2020

In these hyper-partisan times, trump's approval is not much more than an intention to vote Republican.

riversedge

(69,727 posts)
12. Trump incessantly boasted to his fellow heads of state,...about his own wealth, genius, "great" acco
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 07:14 PM
Jun 2020

damn. this really is sickening.


................Trump incessantly boasted to his fellow heads of state, including Saudi Arabia's autocratic royal heir Mohammed bin Salman and North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un, about his own wealth, genius, "great" accomplishments as President, and the "idiocy" of his Oval Office predecessors, according to the sources.

riversedge

(69,727 posts)
13. .. the President regularly bullied and demeaned the leaders of America's principal allies, especiall
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 07:21 PM
Jun 2020



.......... the President regularly bullied and demeaned the leaders of America's principal allies, especially two women: telling Prime Minister Theresa May of the United Kingdom she was weak and lacked courage; and telling German Chancellor Angela Merkel that she was "stupid."
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