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highplainsdem

(48,874 posts)
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 09:20 AM Jun 2020

Trump: Foreign countries will print 'millions of mail-in ballots' in 'scandal of our times!'

Source: The Hill

President Trump launched another attack on mail-in voting Monday morning, claiming that foreign nations would print “millions” of mail-in ballots.

“RIGGED 2020 ELECTION: MILLIONS OF MAIL-IN BALLOTS WILL BE PRINTED BY FOREIGN COUNTRIES, AND OTHERS. IT WILL BE THE SCANDAL OF OUR TIMES!” Trump tweeted without providing evidence

-snip-

In April, he claimed that “you get thousands and thousands of people sitting in somebody’s living room, signing ballots all over the place" when mail-in voting is allowed.

Asked by reporters for evidence, he responded, "I think there's a lot of evidence, but we'll provide you with some, okay?"

-snip-

Read more: https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/503837-trump-foreign-countries-will-print-millions-of-mail-in-ballots



I'm waiting for him to tell evangelists there will be demonic mail-in ballots, and others that aliens will not only create mail-in ballots but they'll disguise themselves as Democrats to vote.

This morning's idiotic lie:



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Trump: Foreign countries will print 'millions of mail-in ballots' in 'scandal of our times!' (Original Post) highplainsdem Jun 2020 OP
He's demented. George II Jun 2020 #1
Projecting again IronLionZion Jun 2020 #2
King of Projection dempls Jun 2020 #3
Shows that he won't accept the election result. He also knows that mail-in Doodley Jun 2020 #4
Always seeks foreign help, and stokes racism to absorb energy bucolic_frolic Jun 2020 #5
Guess putin is repurposing some of his US greenback presses to print ballots erronis Jun 2020 #6
Will someone please explain to him that it doesn't work like that???? Maeve Jun 2020 #7
THIS!!! pazzyanne Jun 2020 #8
2 words and 3 words Botany Jun 2020 #10
Plus.. droidamus2 Jun 2020 #22
Thread winner 👆 flibbitygiblets Jun 2020 #29
+1 dalton99a Jun 2020 #30
Signature matching is a voter suppression tactic. It should be illegal. lagomorph777 Jun 2020 #37
Is it not the Democratic-House majority who holds the budget purse? Lock him up. Jun 2020 #42
I think he knows. ZenDem Jun 2020 #16
That's it in a nutshell KS Toronado Jun 2020 #31
He is scared... very scared ashredux Jun 2020 #9
Sounds like a set up for some monkey business. overleft Jun 2020 #11
So, this is one of his 2020 campaign promises? (nt) muriel_volestrangler Jun 2020 #12
He'll claim mail in fraud as the reason if he gets whomped in November Tom Rinaldo Jun 2020 #13
He is close to being cornered... TommyCelt Jun 2020 #14
I think he will start a war Yeehah Jun 2020 #21
At least he's letting us know his plans for November AleksS Jun 2020 #15
I'm afraid he'll use that Winger running the USPS to halt all ballots. machoneman Jun 2020 #20
Anything and everything to detract from that crowd last night..Anything, any lie, any spy, any guy, Stuart G Jun 2020 #17
There was no need to distract from the crowd, lagomorph777 Jun 2020 #36
He must have ordered some from China. n/t 5X Jun 2020 #18
proves he has no idea how any state ballot system works beachbumbob Jun 2020 #19
Mailed Ballots: The perfect paper trail. Marcuse Jun 2020 #23
Why Would Anyone Want To Advertise On Twitter DallasNE Jun 2020 #24
And how many times has he said this weaselly cop-out packman Jun 2020 #25
Projecting again MissMillie Jun 2020 #26
King con reveals xxqqqzme Jun 2020 #27
OMG! tRump is right, they are already being secretly supplied. So official looking! PaulRevere08 Jun 2020 #28
This is just so damned exhausting matt819 Jun 2020 #32
That's exactly what HE envisions HE could do! So, as with our security stripped money, ancianita Jun 2020 #33
Code for "I and my people have asked my boss in Russia to do this."? cstanleytech Jun 2020 #34
He projects like an iMAX. lagomorph777 Jun 2020 #35
I'm curious. Are Trump supporters really totally ignorant about the way votes (absentee or Nitram Jun 2020 #38
I know! moose65 Jun 2020 #41
The COVID Tour continues! Fans are flocking to meet their maker. Nitram Jun 2020 #39
Russia-connected group pushed fake documents aimed at political flashpoints, researchers say dalton99a Jun 2020 #40
It extrudes from his mouth, elleng Jun 2020 #43
I guarantee you Astraea Jun 2020 #44

Doodley

(9,013 posts)
4. Shows that he won't accept the election result. He also knows that mail-in
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 09:29 AM
Jun 2020

ballots undermine efforts to hack voting machines.

erronis

(15,160 posts)
6. Guess putin is repurposing some of his US greenback presses to print ballots
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 09:46 AM
Jun 2020

"Russia, if you can here me..... Send me some of her fake ballots."

Maeve

(42,269 posts)
7. Will someone please explain to him that it doesn't work like that????
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 09:51 AM
Jun 2020

In words of two syllables or less

pazzyanne

(6,541 posts)
8. THIS!!!
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 09:57 AM
Jun 2020

The man has no concept of what happens in the real world, not do any of his administration. We are so screwed.

Botany

(70,424 posts)
10. 2 words and 3 words
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 09:59 AM
Jun 2020

You have to be a REGISTERED VOTER.

The ballot has to come from the BOARD OF ELECTIONS.

droidamus2

(1,699 posts)
22. Plus..
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 10:40 AM
Jun 2020

They also do signature matching. His whole point is to establish 'doubt' he doesn't need proof he just needs enough people to believe his made up conspiracy theories to get in the way of national by mail voting. I would suspect part of the plan is that the states will need some financial help from the federal government to ramp up their existing absentee/vote by mail systems to handle the massive numbers. By spreading doubt it gives him an excuse to give any financial aid.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
29. Thread winner 👆
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 12:30 PM
Jun 2020

I live in Oregon and can attest to the fact that if the signature doesn't match, the registered voter gets a letter asking them to correct the signature or take other action.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
37. Signature matching is a voter suppression tactic. It should be illegal.
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 01:38 PM
Jun 2020

It's as subjective as the old "count the soap bubbles" trick.

Lock him up.

(6,913 posts)
42. Is it not the Democratic-House majority who holds the budget purse?
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 03:54 PM
Jun 2020

The orangevirus always seems to think our credit card is his personal money!!

I read that he even stole $500,000,000 from it to bail out his golf courses?

Lock him up.





ZenDem

(442 posts)
16. I think he knows.
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 10:19 AM
Jun 2020

He also knows that his sheep don't know and don't care and won't bother to fact check.
It's a scare tactic. As long as he keeps them full of fear and doubt, they'll follow the wolf that claims to protect them.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,911 posts)
13. He'll claim mail in fraud as the reason if he gets whomped in November
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 10:15 AM
Jun 2020

Exactly the same ploy as his claim to have won the popular vote in 2016 were it not for massive illegal voting. Evidence, who needs evidence? He didn't have any then either.

Unlike some I don't think Trump would refuse to leave office based on an election fraud claim. He knows his standing in history will look far worse if he actually has to be carried out of the White House by Federal Marshals, or worse. He now knows that the military will be faithful to the Constitution, and not to him personally. No, it is all about his ego. Trump can't handle the humiliation of losing and of being rejected by the American people. It would not be enough to blame the pandemic or unfair media for his loss, he must reject actually losing itself.

And though I think it unlikely that he will try to hold onto the White House if Biden wins, Trump will still do major damage to our democracy by claiming the election was stolen from him, and by refusing to honor our long standing tradition of a gracious transfer of power. But Trump doesn't give a fuck, it is only about him

Yeehah

(4,563 posts)
21. I think he will start a war
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 10:37 AM
Jun 2020

I've always thought Trump would get us into an unwinnable war. Likely in Iran.

AleksS

(1,665 posts)
15. At least he's letting us know his plans for November
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 10:17 AM
Jun 2020

Since his projection is well known, we can assume he’s been in talks with Russia, N Korea (known for their surprisingly robust counterfeiting operations), et. al. to put this plan in action for his campaign.

So we know what to look for.

He’s so bad at keeping secrets!

machoneman

(3,994 posts)
20. I'm afraid he'll use that Winger running the USPS to halt all ballots.
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 10:35 AM
Jun 2020

Gee, we lost or misplaced, totally by accident, about 9 million ballots, oddly all from big Democratic zipcodes. Not to worry, we'll find them in say January.

Stuart G

(38,403 posts)
17. Anything and everything to detract from that crowd last night..Anything, any lie, any spy, any guy,
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 10:20 AM
Jun 2020
any buy, any fly, and any fry...

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
24. Why Would Anyone Want To Advertise On Twitter
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 10:56 AM
Jun 2020

Everything Trump Tweets is misinformation. Why would a company want their name associated with blatantly false information.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
25. And how many times has he said this weaselly cop-out
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 11:28 AM
Jun 2020

Asked by reporters for evidence, he responded, "I think there's a lot of evidence, but we'll provide you with some, okay?"

Whenever he's backed into a lie he comes out with that line about giving evidence that never materializes

matt819

(10,749 posts)
32. This is just so damned exhausting
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 12:49 PM
Jun 2020

Sure, it's horrifying. But it's just so damned old.

He's a fucking liar. No foreign power is going to print millions of ballots.

More important, like the millions of tickets given out for the Tulsa rally, the only ones that mattered were the ones who showed up.

IOW, no precinct, village, town, or city is going to count more than one ballot for each registered voter. No one person counts the votes.
It's a bipartisan process. However corrupt any one ballot counter might be, the second the vote count goes over the number of registered voters, everyone will know there's a problem. Mail-in ballots might very well slow down the vote counting process, but it far less subject to corruption than computerized systems that have been shown to fail to accurately record votes.

So, please, please, please, just STFU.

Lincoln Project? DNC? Biden campaign? Please knock this down right now.

ancianita

(35,906 posts)
33. That's exactly what HE envisions HE could do! So, as with our security stripped money,
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 01:16 PM
Jun 2020

we put security strips in each ballot.

If we can all have tax ID #'s, we can have ballot ID #'s, each with a security strip.

Keeping fake ballots out won't be hard with sorting machinery.

I don't pretend the first time will be easy or without some problems, but once states succeed with mail in balloting, they can toss their hackable voting machines onto a public bonfire and declare elections fair for the future.

As long as we sit around joking that he won't try this, we'll be caught flat footed when he does.

Nitram

(22,755 posts)
38. I'm curious. Are Trump supporters really totally ignorant about the way votes (absentee or
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 01:47 PM
Jun 2020

otherwise) are checked against a voter registration database? If there are two or more votes in the name of any voter in the database, do they think they will all be counted?

moose65

(3,166 posts)
41. I know!
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 03:11 PM
Jun 2020

I've heard this bullshit "argument" several times: "What's to stop people from just printing 25 ballots and sending them in."

Jeez. The stupid. It burns! Do they really think that state elections boards just accept any printed ballot that shows up? Do they know that there are already protections built in? That a mail-in ballot has to be signed? That any one person can't just send in multiple ballots? That the ballots have to come from the Board of Elections? That the military has been voting by mail since the Civil War? That the last election fraud from absentee ballots was perpetrated by Republicans in North Carolina, and they got caught - by Republicans???

Nitram

(22,755 posts)
39. The COVID Tour continues! Fans are flocking to meet their maker.
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 01:49 PM
Jun 2020

Republicans will soon be dropping like flies! Talk about the End Times. We Who Are Left Behind salute you! We thank you for your sacrifice!

dalton99a

(81,371 posts)
40. Russia-connected group pushed fake documents aimed at political flashpoints, researchers say
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 02:09 PM
Jun 2020
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/russia-connected-group-pushes-fake-documents-aimed-political-flashpoints-researchers-n1178996
Russia-connected group pushed fake documents aimed at political flashpoints, researchers say
The report comes as election security experts remain on alert for efforts to manipulate the 2020 election from Russia and many other countries and nonstate actors.
April 8, 2020, 8:58 AM CDT
By Kevin Collier

On the internet, a letter from Sen. Ben Cardin, D-Md., dated July 13, 2019, looks legitimate. It has a U.S. Senate letterhead, Cardin's signature and even a small "Printed on Recycled Paper" at the bottom.

But it is fake. Cardin never sent the letter, which attempts to portray him as making an exaggerated case for Russian opposition candidate Alexei Navalny to Sen. Bob Menendez, D-N.J.

It's one of a handful of fake government documents that have circulated on the internet in recent months. One purports to be from a U.S. admiral, while another tries to float the idea that Secretary of State Mike Pompeo recognized the Armenian Genocide and blamed Turkey — something Pompeo has been careful not to do.

The letters were released Wednesday by the cybersecurity firm Recorded Future, which analyzed the documents and found what its researchers say is an organized, targeted effort with connections to Russia aimed at influencing geopolitical discourse. It's the kind of operation that could be deployed for the 2020 election.

Astraea

(464 posts)
44. I guarantee you
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 06:19 PM
Jun 2020

if it were that easy to cheat with mail-in ballots, we wouldn't hear a peep from Republicans because THEY'D BE THE ONES DOING IT

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