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Omaha Steve

(99,073 posts)
Tue May 26, 2020, 09:58 AM May 2020

Investment firm suspends woman over video of her calling the police on a black man who asked her to

Source: Business Insider

By Sinéad Baker

A global investment firm has suspended a woman after a video circulated of her calling the police on a man who had asked her to put her dog on a leash.

The video showed Amy Cooper, who is white, approaching a man later identified as Christian Cooper, who is black, and threatening to call the police. (It is a coincidence that the two have the same surname.)

She asked him to stop filming her and said she would call the police to report an "African American man threatening my life," which she then did. The police responded but ultimately took no action.

The video started a firestorm on social media, which led Amy Cooper to apologize in a statement to NBC New York. She was also suspended from her job.




Read more: https://www.businessinsider.com/investment-firm-suspends-central-park-woman-rang-nypd-black-man-2020-5



FULL titls: Investment firm suspends woman over video of her calling the police on a black man who asked her to put her dog on a leash

The company is Franklin Templeton Investments.
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Investment firm suspends woman over video of her calling the police on a black man who asked her to (Original Post) Omaha Steve May 2020 OP
Bye, Felicia! Aristus May 2020 #1
Her entire life destroyed by a social media lynch mob for a moment of anger Devil Child May 2020 #2
I have a different take on this. Had there been no video and jrthin May 2020 #4
Exactly Dopers_Greed May 2020 #7
Had it been elsewhere but NY, where the police are generally level headed (I know some may.... George II May 2020 #11
Yep! jrthin May 2020 #13
Eric Garner notwithstanding? lostnfound May 2020 #78
Yes, Eric Garner notwithstanding. This is about what MIGHT have happened in NYC.... George II May 2020 #81
"Had there been no video and the police showed up..." jberryhill May 2020 #22
Exactly. mahina May 2020 #30
Not that long ago .... sarge43 May 2020 #70
Degree of the atrocity remains today. jrthin May 2020 #75
I really hate the fact that I have to say this to you... SKKY May 2020 #99
Aside From Nearly Strangling Her Desperate Dog Me. May 2020 #8
It's not okay. Cracklin Charlie May 2020 #25
It Made Me Sick The Way She Was Treating That Dog Me. May 2020 #28
Listen to her tone when she was on the phone FoxNewsSucks May 2020 #10
Faking Mortal Fear? RobinA May 2020 #41
I'm disgusted that anyone would be defending this woman on a supposedly liberal site. Neema May 2020 #49
I'm Not Defending Her RobinA May 2020 #87
Sounds to me like she has a big time personality disorder womanofthehills May 2020 #54
She calmly told him what she was going to do to get him in trouble. She wasn't afraid. nt tblue37 May 2020 #101
I don't think she was faking it. NutmegYankee May 2020 #71
Her life is destroyed because she blatantly ignored signs (which she said she knew were there).... George II May 2020 #14
Versus his entire life being gone in a shot MaryMagdaline May 2020 #15
+1 Cracklin Charlie May 2020 #27
In the old days this was done regularly. MicaelS May 2020 #19
+1 MaryMagdaline May 2020 #34
Unfortunately??? RobinA May 2020 #44
Yes, Unfortunately. MicaelS May 2020 #98
Yes, I'm Aware RobinA May 2020 #100
So, a black man defending himself from a lying white woman... MicaelS May 2020 #103
No, Using Shame RobinA May 2020 #104
"lynch" mob? Hardly .... If she's alive she hasnt been "lynched." Sorry but I am a stickler for Kashkakat v.2.0 May 2020 #31
+1 MaryMagdaline May 2020 #32
Her professional and social life are getting lynched as we speak Devil Child May 2020 #39
Primates Also RobinA May 2020 #88
Yeah Nasty World RobinA May 2020 #35
She could have gotten him killed. AllyCat May 2020 #36
Last I checked he is alive... Devil Child May 2020 #38
He is. Because there was video and fortunately, the cops that responded AllyCat May 2020 #42
No one was there when the cops responded jberryhill May 2020 #59
The crime she committed was giving a false statement to police. 3Hotdogs May 2020 #45
+1! nt tblue37 May 2020 #102
Last I checked, Trump didn't actually get any quid pro quo from Ukraine..... MrsCoffee May 2020 #47
"A moment of anger" could have cost that man his life had he not been filming. Neema May 2020 #43
She should be in jail. What end did she expect for Mr. Cooper when she practically swatted him? MrsCoffee May 2020 #46
Cancel culture can be problematic, but I don't think there is an issue in this case Blasphemer May 2020 #62
Why do you think her life is destroyed? She was just suspended from her job Nt raccoon May 2020 #63
She has been fired. N/t Devil Child May 2020 #80
Yeah I see that now in news. Nt raccoon May 2020 #85
So? Getting fired for making a public nuisance of yourself... reACTIONary May 2020 #92
I think she was fired Chrysanthemum May 2020 #95
Someone shouting into a phone to 911 claiming your threatened and send a COP!!! Bengus81 May 2020 #76
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar May 2020 #77
Having lost her livelihood in the current circumstances... jberryhill May 2020 #3
The same penalty this man would have received jrthin May 2020 #5
Except he might be dead earlier from, uh, resisting arrest. AllyCat May 2020 #37
Why Do People RobinA May 2020 #90
In addition to being racist Chrysanthemum May 2020 #96
Stiff Indeed... phandancer917 May 2020 #6
You remind me... qwlauren35 May 2020 #16
I'm not defending her at all jberryhill May 2020 #20
Play stupid games tazkcmo May 2020 #24
Actions have consequences, and bearing false witness is a very serious offense that should not c-rational May 2020 #17
Black men face pretty stiff penalties for breathing while black, and she could have easily caused Neema May 2020 #51
With any luck, she'll kill herself jberryhill May 2020 #52
Maybe I should JonLP24 May 2020 #97
She was VP of a financial investment firm IronLionZion May 2020 #65
Not yet jberryhill May 2020 #66
The financial industry is doing better than others during this quarantine/recession IronLionZion May 2020 #67
What does that have to do with the price of beans in Bali? jberryhill May 2020 #68
Good. Plenty of people lost their livelihoods without doing what she did IronLionZion May 2020 #69
Why are you accusing me of being sympathetic toward her? jberryhill May 2020 #82
She probably needs mental health evaluation and treatment IronLionZion May 2020 #83
Post removed Post removed May 2020 #84
I'm ok with that. Repeatedly screaming "an AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN IS THREATENING BusyBeingBest May 2020 #86
the poor dog. seems as if this karen give zero fucks about not just fellow humans... Javaman May 2020 #9
Only suspended? area51 May 2020 #12
So I guess they'll bring her back when it's quiet... Steelrolled May 2020 #72
At this time, she is only 'on leave' left-of-center2012 May 2020 #18
Interesting,Franklin-Templeton corporate Wellstone ruled May 2020 #55
She should be fired! Deuce May 2020 #21
"closet" racist? JudyM May 2020 #26
CNN has the full story.... George II May 2020 #40
I've know people like her, I'll bet this isn't the first time she's pulled this crap. Canoe52 May 2020 #23
That's what's great about social media Steelrolled May 2020 #73
... Canoe52 May 2020 #74
Thank You RobinA May 2020 #91
Its a data point. nt reACTIONary May 2020 #93
That man was super calm and courageous. mahina May 2020 #29
I just read in another article she voluntarily surrendered the dog. nt Javaman May 2020 #33
Central Park, on a pre-C-19 weekend. Pre-C-19. 3Hotdogs May 2020 #48
She was a complete jerk. hamsterjill May 2020 #50
"So what's left on this one?" jberryhill May 2020 #53
Your point is valid, but I truly hope that doesn't happen. hamsterjill May 2020 #56
"That's what makes "us" different from "them". Compassion." jberryhill May 2020 #58
I think there are still plenty of "us" on DU hamsterjill May 2020 #61
I'll see your 200 quatloos and double them Devil Child May 2020 #60
You certainly create prophecies worthy of ancient religious texts. LanternWaste May 2020 #89
I have two dogs... Aviation91 May 2020 #57
I worked for a Provost at a college MissMillie May 2020 #64
I believe they fired her privileged ass. Joinfortmill May 2020 #79
Now FIRED........ Bengus81 May 2020 #94
 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
2. Her entire life destroyed by a social media lynch mob for a moment of anger
Tue May 26, 2020, 10:15 AM
May 2020

I’m not of the opinion that being an asshole is a life ruining offense. Cancel culture and doxxing run amok fueled by click hungry media outlets.

jrthin

(4,825 posts)
4. I have a different take on this. Had there been no video and
Tue May 26, 2020, 10:27 AM
May 2020

the police showed up, this man would have been arrested and all the problems of being a black man arrested (money for lawyers, record, defending one's self against the word of a white woman) would have ensued. No, she is not a victim.

George II

(67,782 posts)
11. Had it been elsewhere but NY, where the police are generally level headed (I know some may....
Tue May 26, 2020, 10:40 AM
May 2020

....disagree with me on that) he could have been shot before they asked any questions.

George II

(67,782 posts)
81. Yes, Eric Garner notwithstanding. This is about what MIGHT have happened in NYC....
Tue May 26, 2020, 03:07 PM
May 2020

....it has nothing to do with Minneapolis.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
22. "Had there been no video and the police showed up..."
Tue May 26, 2020, 11:16 AM
May 2020

There was no video when the police showed up.

Both of them had left by the time police showed up, and the police took no further action.

jrthin

(4,825 posts)
75. Degree of the atrocity remains today.
Tue May 26, 2020, 02:10 PM
May 2020

A white woman's word will, generally, always be believed over a black man.

SKKY

(11,772 posts)
99. I really hate the fact that I have to say this to you...
Tue May 26, 2020, 09:29 PM
May 2020

...but you're right. And I wish you weren't.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
8. Aside From Nearly Strangling Her Desperate Dog
Tue May 26, 2020, 10:36 AM
May 2020

she endangered a black man by calling the police on him and saying he threatened her life. That's ok by you? Do you not know how many black people have died for less. And, there's a reason leashes are required in that area because it's an important area for birds and dogs have a tendency to go after them

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
25. It's not okay.
Tue May 26, 2020, 11:26 AM
May 2020

This was the first time I noticed that he thanked her when she finally leashed the dog.

That’s all she needed to do. Follow the rules. Instead she decided to endanger another person’s life.

Unacceptable. She deserves what happens, because she caused it.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
28. It Made Me Sick The Way She Was Treating That Dog
Tue May 26, 2020, 11:33 AM
May 2020

I wonder how she treated the poor little creature in private. Thankfully the dog has been surrendered to the same rescue who gave the dog to her a couple of years ago.

As to the other aspect of this situation, how many times will the police be called on innocent black people...and some people wonder why the black community worries.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,378 posts)
10. Listen to her tone when she was on the phone
Tue May 26, 2020, 10:39 AM
May 2020

she was pretending to be in mortal fear. She knew exactly how that would sound to the dispatcher, and what the arriving cops would be expecting to find. She faked it, and that also undermines genuine calls from people legitimately being threatened.

She deserves what she's getting.

Also for the fact that while she was faking mortal fear, she was choking her dog the whole time.

RobinA

(9,878 posts)
41. Faking Mortal Fear?
Tue May 26, 2020, 11:52 AM
May 2020

It appeared to me that she was fearful, rightly or wrongly. He was filming her. Are we supposed to tell her she isn't supposed to be afraid. I thought we weren't supposed to tell people how they should feel in a given situation? Do we know this woman's history? If she was black and the filmer white, would it be OK to for us to tell her how she should feel? Or comment that she was "faking"?

This is a disgusting thread on a supposedly liberal site.

Neema

(1,151 posts)
49. I'm disgusted that anyone would be defending this woman on a supposedly liberal site.
Tue May 26, 2020, 12:17 PM
May 2020

She could have cost him his life. The man asked her to leash her dog, as per the rules, and she decided to call the cops on him. People who know this man say he is polite and well-known because he enjoys birding in that area and nothing about what I've read about him would suggest he would have been threatening in any way...OTHER than to someone automatically afraid of black men.

RobinA

(9,878 posts)
87. I'm Not Defending Her
Tue May 26, 2020, 04:58 PM
May 2020

I’m suggesting some reason. It appeared that she got upset when he started filming her. We don’t know her history, and I don’t think an opinion of the reasonableness of her reaction is possible based on what we see here. It’s particularly disturbing how many people are raising pitchforks here.

womanofthehills

(8,584 posts)
54. Sounds to me like she has a big time personality disorder
Tue May 26, 2020, 12:40 PM
May 2020

Like Trump, she is unable to take the slightest criticism - taking everything personally. How dare he tell me what to do?? Who talks like that when they know they are being filmed? And dog abuse on top of it. Probably not the first time she choked her dog.

NutmegYankee

(16,178 posts)
71. I don't think she was faking it.
Tue May 26, 2020, 01:55 PM
May 2020

And that's the worse problem - this irrational fear that some whites have is the main problem with moving forward with true equality. It's an ugly legacy from the white flight of the 60s that hasn't been corrected in culture.

George II

(67,782 posts)
14. Her life is destroyed because she blatantly ignored signs (which she said she knew were there)....
Tue May 26, 2020, 10:43 AM
May 2020

....saying dogs MUST be on a leash and she blamed the whole thing on "an African American man who is threatening my life"!

I lived a few hundred yards from there when I was younger, EVERYONE knows that dogs must be kept on a leash. Period.

Only one person was wrong throughout that incident. It was that woman.

MaryMagdaline

(6,849 posts)
15. Versus his entire life being gone in a shot
Tue May 26, 2020, 10:45 AM
May 2020

I’ll take the social media take down vs death of one more black man

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
19. In the old days this was done regularly.
Tue May 26, 2020, 10:55 AM
May 2020

It was called shaming or shunning. Unfortunately, we have gotten away from that, and nasty people get away with things all the time. This one did not. No sympathy for her. None.

MaryMagdaline

(6,849 posts)
34. +1
Tue May 26, 2020, 11:42 AM
May 2020

Since racists feel emboldened now and have lost all sense of shame, it’s time to bring it back with social shaming

RobinA

(9,878 posts)
44. Unfortunately???
Tue May 26, 2020, 11:58 AM
May 2020

So is there a list of the Allowed to be Shamed and the Not Allowed to be Shamed? Because generally the shaming heads in the direction of anybody a number of people don't approve of. Either there is shaming or there is not. If you want to bring back shaming, be prepared to have your own oxen gored.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
98. Yes, Unfortunately.
Tue May 26, 2020, 09:20 PM
May 2020

It has already come back, in case you have not noticed. We just do not have enough of it.

The best defense THESE DAYS against nasty people in public is recording them and then putting it out there for the entire world to see. Let their family, friends, peers, employers, etc.. judge their behavior IN PUBLIC.

There is no excuse, NONE, for this woman's behavior. Any attempt to justify it, is unjustifiable.

RobinA

(9,878 posts)
104. No, Using Shame
Thu May 28, 2020, 12:07 PM
May 2020

on those who don't act the way you think they should act is part of Trump's America. I thought that's what we were talking about. Better be careful what you wish for. Being OK with public shaming is going back aways to a world I thought we were trying to put behind us.

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,752 posts)
31. "lynch" mob? Hardly .... If she's alive she hasnt been "lynched." Sorry but I am a stickler for
Tue May 26, 2020, 11:36 AM
May 2020

precise language. Public shaming is as old as human culture. ... for better or worse. It's what primates do, enforce the social norms.

 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
39. Her professional and social life are getting lynched as we speak
Tue May 26, 2020, 11:50 AM
May 2020

Use character assassination for an alternative.

RobinA

(9,878 posts)
88. Primates Also
Tue May 26, 2020, 05:00 PM
May 2020

gang up on an outsider in their midst. Older than human culture. Is this now to be considered a good thing?

RobinA

(9,878 posts)
35. Yeah Nasty World
Tue May 26, 2020, 11:42 AM
May 2020

we live in. I have a real problem with people's work jumping into the fray. Especially when workers in at will states have no recourse.

AllyCat

(16,036 posts)
36. She could have gotten him killed.
Tue May 26, 2020, 11:44 AM
May 2020

Nothing was going to happen to her. Nothing. All she had to do was smile and nod, put the dog on the leash or not, but her complete freak-out here over being approached by a black man asking her to obey the law...yeah, that there is some racism. She would not have done this if the person asking her to do this was white. She would not have done this if she was obeying the law. And this man would have been in jail or dead had there been no video.

 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
38. Last I checked he is alive...
Tue May 26, 2020, 11:48 AM
May 2020

Sounds like she should get the death penalty for all the bad shit that could’ve happened but didn’t.

If she committed a crime that’s what the judicial system is for. Not trial by media/social/media where the accused are always guilty and have zero defense.

AllyCat

(16,036 posts)
42. He is. Because there was video and fortunately, the cops that responded
Tue May 26, 2020, 11:52 AM
May 2020

were not the ones in Minneapolis yesterday who choked a black man with their knees until he died.

She should not get the death penalty. But that was bordering on attempted murder. Not for a white person...but certainly for a black man. They don't get a judicial system like the rest of us.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
59. No one was there when the cops responded
Tue May 26, 2020, 12:54 PM
May 2020

The video didn't have anything to do with it. They both left the scene.

3Hotdogs

(12,210 posts)
45. The crime she committed was giving a false statement to police.
Tue May 26, 2020, 12:05 PM
May 2020

Do you know what swatting is? What she did was the same as swatting. People have died from swatting.

MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
47. Last I checked, Trump didn't actually get any quid pro quo from Ukraine.....
Tue May 26, 2020, 12:11 PM
May 2020

Sorry, but the Trump excuse doesn't work anywhere.

Neema

(1,151 posts)
43. "A moment of anger" could have cost that man his life had he not been filming.
Tue May 26, 2020, 11:53 AM
May 2020

And she knew that calling the cops and saying she was threatened by a black man could have that outcome. All because he asked her to leash her dog in an area where they are required to be leashed. I'm grateful he was filming and I'm grateful she was outed. I hope she faces charges.

Blasphemer

(3,261 posts)
62. Cancel culture can be problematic, but I don't think there is an issue in this case
Tue May 26, 2020, 01:03 PM
May 2020

People are flawed and everyone suffers from internalized racism. Often there are opportunities to call people in and engage in discourse that is helpful for all involved. However, when actions escalate to the point of making false accusations to the police, there should be consequences - social and otherwise. I think deterrence is important here. It doesn't mean that there should not also be opportunities for change and growth. That's what the criminal justice system is supposed to be about - punishment AND rehabilitation.

reACTIONary

(5,749 posts)
92. So? Getting fired for making a public nuisance of yourself...
Tue May 26, 2020, 05:19 PM
May 2020

... isn't the end of the world. This is her just desert IMHO.

Chrysanthemum

(187 posts)
95. I think she was fired
Tue May 26, 2020, 08:47 PM
May 2020

I think she was fired because the video showed her committing a crime. Making a false report to the police is a crime. In addition, she was also obviously racist. She specified "an African American man" threatened her, not "a man threatened her." She knew what she was doing.

I absolutely agree with you. Her just desserts, indeed.

Bengus81

(6,907 posts)
76. Someone shouting into a phone to 911 claiming your threatened and send a COP!!!
Tue May 26, 2020, 02:19 PM
May 2020

She made it sound like he was about to shoot or knife her. Fuck it....she deserves a certain amount of her life destroyed. Also making BS phony 911 calls is a CRIME--hence the "I'm being threatened" oh...and add in an **GASP** African American just for more drama. Also it was her approaching him.

I'm up to my head sick of this hatred shit fueled by that sick POS in the WH. Hope she gets a big ass fine and gets fired.

Response to Devil Child (Reply #2)

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
3. Having lost her livelihood in the current circumstances...
Tue May 26, 2020, 10:25 AM
May 2020

...then she is not going to be replacing that income anytime soon. She'll fall behind in rent and will be evicted from her home once those sorts of things are resumed. Absent any kind of support network, she may end up homeless and unemployable, to face society's contempt until she eventually drops dead somewhere.

Pretty stiff penalty.

RobinA

(9,878 posts)
90. Why Do People
Tue May 26, 2020, 05:07 PM
May 2020

keep saying something would have happened to him but for this video? She got fired because she was white and flipped out when a black man video taped her.

Chrysanthemum

(187 posts)
96. In addition to being racist
Tue May 26, 2020, 08:50 PM
May 2020

I also think she was fired because she blatantly committed a crime, namely, a false report to the police.

phandancer917

(145 posts)
6. Stiff Indeed...
Tue May 26, 2020, 10:31 AM
May 2020

....but to copy/paste a previous poster:


(without this video) ...the police showed up, this man would have been arrested and all the problems of being a black man arrested (money for lawyers, record, defending one's self against the word of a white woman) would have ensued. No, she is not a victim.

This could have been VERY BAD for this man.

She will likely overcome this roadbump or join Q - por que no los dos?

qwlauren35

(6,112 posts)
16. You remind me...
Tue May 26, 2020, 10:46 AM
May 2020

of the Brett Kavanaugh defenders.

If a white guy does something to harm a woman, he is "just a guy being a guy" and shouldn't go to jail for rape, or shouldn't serve a harsh sentence, or maybe gets probation, and shouldn't go on the sex offender's list because "it would ruin his life". Well he should have thought of that before he did it.

If there is no negative consequence for a white person's actions, then they just keep doing the same horrible things with no fear of retribution.

Go ahead and feel sorry for her - I don't.

There are a LOT of people who have lost their jobs over the last 3 months. Feel sorry for them. THEY could end up homeless.

If she ends up homeless, I really don't give a shit.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
20. I'm not defending her at all
Tue May 26, 2020, 10:57 AM
May 2020

Quite the contrary, in fact. Your snippy personal dig at me is misplaced.

Many homeless and unemployable persons are in that condition precisely because of poor decisions they have made.

She should certainly never be treated as if she did not deserve it, and I'm certainly not suggesting that she be promoted to any position of responsibility.

Absolutely, she should die in poverty, and not get any sort of therapy or concern from decent people.

tazkcmo

(7,286 posts)
24. Play stupid games
Tue May 26, 2020, 11:26 AM
May 2020

Win stupid prizes. She falsely accused Mr. Cooper of threatening her life in the hopes he would suffer some level of injustice at the hands of the police. She earned her "prize".

As for never working again, I understand that meat processing plants are hiring.

c-rational

(2,581 posts)
17. Actions have consequences, and bearing false witness is a very serious offense that should not
Tue May 26, 2020, 10:47 AM
May 2020

be given a pass. Her phone call to the police was a complete corruptionn of the truth, and had the police showed up could well have resulted in more trajic consequences for this man.

Neema

(1,151 posts)
51. Black men face pretty stiff penalties for breathing while black, and she could have easily caused
Tue May 26, 2020, 12:32 PM
May 2020

him to face that penalty with her false report. In fact it's pretty clear to me that she knew that calling the police and specifically saying her "life was being threatened" by an African American man could likely result in something very bad for him.

And all because he asked her to leash her dog. But she didn't feel like following the clearly stated rules in an area of Central Park specifically set aside for protection of plants and birds. She didn't think they applied to her. She thinks she can use the police as "a protection agency" (her words). What is she a mob boss?

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
52. With any luck, she'll kill herself
Tue May 26, 2020, 12:34 PM
May 2020

She doesn't seem mentally stable in the first place, so maybe she will do us all a favor and die.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
97. Maybe I should
Tue May 26, 2020, 09:17 PM
May 2020

As someone who is mentally unstable and not a racist I get really sick of people blaming every bad thing on mental illness. Life is a struggle as it is but it doesn't help with all these stigmatizing language I see online. She threatened to make up that he was threatening her. As far as her losing her job and being homeless I have been there done that.

IronLionZion

(45,261 posts)
65. She was VP of a financial investment firm
Tue May 26, 2020, 01:18 PM
May 2020
“Amy M. Cooper leads the insurance portfolio management and strategy business at Franklin Templeton. She has dedicated her career to delivering and executing investment solutions for insurance and pension companies globally. … She is a recognized industry leader in insurance accounting and regulatory issues, asset liability management and strategic asset allocation. She has worked in a variety of insurance focused roles.”


Probably not as impoverished as you may like to believe.
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
68. What does that have to do with the price of beans in Bali?
Tue May 26, 2020, 01:41 PM
May 2020

How is the financial industry doing on hiring previously-terminated people whose #1 Google search result is "racist asshole"?

Pretty sure the financial industry will do fine without her, and likely will.

IronLionZion

(45,261 posts)
69. Good. Plenty of people lost their livelihoods without doing what she did
Tue May 26, 2020, 01:48 PM
May 2020

and would have less wealth/savings/investments to weather a period of unemployment. Your sympathy is misplaced.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
82. Why are you accusing me of being sympathetic toward her?
Tue May 26, 2020, 03:28 PM
May 2020

WTF?

I suggest you might read my comments in this thread again, because you have certainly come away with the wrong impression.

I'm betting she offs herself.

IronLionZion

(45,261 posts)
83. She probably needs mental health evaluation and treatment
Tue May 26, 2020, 03:38 PM
May 2020

but non-whites never get that benefit of a doubt, just aggressive police action that results in arrest or brutality.

I don't wish suicide on anyone, but she's not a victim.

Response to IronLionZion (Reply #83)

BusyBeingBest

(8,049 posts)
86. I'm ok with that. Repeatedly screaming "an AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN IS THREATENING
Tue May 26, 2020, 04:40 PM
May 2020

MY LIFE!!"--trying to intimidate the man by using his race against him in a bogus call to law enforcement--all while strangling her own dog--means I don't give a shit what happens to her for the rest of her shitty life.

Javaman

(62,442 posts)
9. the poor dog. seems as if this karen give zero fucks about not just fellow humans...
Tue May 26, 2020, 10:37 AM
May 2020

but her pet as well.

area51

(11,868 posts)
12. Only suspended?
Tue May 26, 2020, 10:40 AM
May 2020

So I guess they'll bring her back when it's quiet. It's not like there are huge numbers of people newly unemployed who could take her position.

 

Steelrolled

(2,022 posts)
72. So I guess they'll bring her back when it's quiet...
Tue May 26, 2020, 01:58 PM
May 2020

That is my guess. They had to take some action due to the social media. It will allow us to get over it, and start looking for the next outrage.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
18. At this time, she is only 'on leave'
Tue May 26, 2020, 10:52 AM
May 2020

"Franklin Templeton Investments, a US asset-management firm,
said an employee had been placed on leave as the company investigated the situation."

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
55. Interesting,Franklin-Templeton corporate
Tue May 26, 2020, 12:47 PM
May 2020

culture seems to harbor Persons with like attitudes as this Lady. Lots of White Privileged Persons in their Employ.

Deuce

(959 posts)
21. She should be fired!
Tue May 26, 2020, 11:07 AM
May 2020

This woman knew exactly what she was doing, by her tone of voice...
She was literally trying to endanger the life of this man...
IMO, perhaps a closet racist!

JudyM

(29,122 posts)
26. "closet" racist?
Tue May 26, 2020, 11:28 AM
May 2020

The only possible concession I’ll give her is that we don’t know what preceded her reaction. If he didn’t ask her to leash her dog she may have been confused about why he was filming her, or maybe he said something more confrontational before he started filming. But he seems calm and says thank you at the end, suggesting she knew what was going on.

Her poor dog.

George II

(67,782 posts)
40. CNN has the full story....
Tue May 26, 2020, 11:51 AM
May 2020

He did nothing untoward, she knew she should have had her dog on the leash. Apparently he and other birders in the park encounter dogs off their leashes frequently, which is why he carried dog treats.

The man did absolutely nothing wrong, in fact went out of his way to be polite and pleasant.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/26/us/central-park-video-dog-video-african-american-trnd/index.html

Canoe52

(2,944 posts)
23. I've know people like her, I'll bet this isn't the first time she's pulled this crap.
Tue May 26, 2020, 11:25 AM
May 2020

At work or in personal relationships she’s done this before and knows just how to work it.

 

Steelrolled

(2,022 posts)
73. That's what's great about social media
Tue May 26, 2020, 02:02 PM
May 2020

You can watch 30 seconds of video and know just what kind of person they are.

Edit for typo.

mahina

(17,506 posts)
29. That man was super calm and courageous.
Tue May 26, 2020, 11:34 AM
May 2020

Poor little dog. She couldn’t care less that he couldn’t breathe and went on forever!

What she did was to use her race and privilege to put the life of that
man at risk for having offended her precious ego.

She lied and could have cost him his life with support from our damages justice system.

I hope she stays fired and her dog gets a good safe living home, and she can reflect on this and change.

Liars can’t be trusted with other people’s money.

3Hotdogs

(12,210 posts)
48. Central Park, on a pre-C-19 weekend. Pre-C-19.
Tue May 26, 2020, 12:14 PM
May 2020

Thousands of peeps in the park. There will always be 3 or 4 peeps riding a bike in the ramble, smoking, dogs off leash... these are all illegal or violation of park regulations.

Confront them, you get ignored, finger back or whatever. She was just one of many. But instead of the finger, she decided to escalate.

hamsterjill

(15,214 posts)
50. She was a complete jerk.
Tue May 26, 2020, 12:22 PM
May 2020

First, the dog should have been on a leash. That pisses me off to no end when idiots think they’re all the “dog whisperer” and it’s okay not to go by the rules. As an animal rescuer, you don’t know how many freaking times I’ve heard “Well I never expected that the dog would run...” when there’s a lifeless body run over in the street.

Second, she is a racist. She was definitely embellishing the dramatics pretending to be threatened and was definitely pulling the race card.

But what are you going to do? Tell her she can’t call the cops? What’s the threshold between real concern for safety and a drama queen playing a part. You cannot mandate that someone cannot call the cops - that’s what you’re SUPPOSED to do if you feel threatened. Was it a bad idea for her to do it? Hell yes.

She’s been placed “on leave” at this point and will, I’m sure, be asked to quietly resign as the investment firm isn’t going to want the heat from having her as an employee. She surrendered the dog - which I think is a good thing. And fake as it probably is - she has apologized.

Mr. Cooper has stated he wants an end to this.

So, what else should be done to her? You’re not going to make her NOT be a racist, and if she actually ever did have a change of heart, who is going to ever believe her.

So what’s left on this one?

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
53. "So what's left on this one?"
Tue May 26, 2020, 12:36 PM
May 2020

I'll put 200 quatloos on her eventual suicide.

She seems pretty unstable in the first place, so the public attention should easily be enough to tip her over the edge.

hamsterjill

(15,214 posts)
56. Your point is valid, but I truly hope that doesn't happen.
Tue May 26, 2020, 12:48 PM
May 2020

That’s what makes “us” different from “them”. Compassion.

While these videos serve a purpose, I think any of us with any kind of legal or investigative experience understand that something could (emphasis on me saying “could” here; not “did” or “might have”...,) have happened before the beginning of the video. I always try to remember that. Again, not saying that is the case here, but it’s something I always consider.

I’m not excusing her actions. What she did was not right. But people are calling for her to be arrested and I don’t see legal grounds for that. So that’s why I asked what’s left.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
58. "That's what makes "us" different from "them". Compassion."
Tue May 26, 2020, 12:52 PM
May 2020

I'm not sure how much reading you do on DU, but there's no end to the demand for retribution to be visited on all sorts of people for all sorts of things.

And if you have a cognitive impairment, emotional or mental disturbance of some kind, or a momentary episode of poor judgment, and manage to kill yourself, you are celebrated with a "Darwin Award" here on DU.

You imagine a different sort of "us" than the "us" which predominately occupies this forum.

hamsterjill

(15,214 posts)
61. I think there are still plenty of "us" on DU
Tue May 26, 2020, 01:01 PM
May 2020

I understand your point. But I would bet that most DU’ers would not want this woman to harm herself.

Can we leave it at that?

 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
60. I'll see your 200 quatloos and double them
Tue May 26, 2020, 12:59 PM
May 2020

Suicide is a likely outcome when ones life is over for the foreseeable future in the blink of an eye.

If and when she does I’ll try and remember to return here to read the gloating but she will be forgotten long before the next similar feeding frenzy kicks off.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
89. You certainly create prophecies worthy of ancient religious texts.
Tue May 26, 2020, 05:04 PM
May 2020

Tough old world when we're held to the consequences of our own actions... so while I get your alleged frustration, I find it self-serving at best.

MissMillie

(38,456 posts)
64. I worked for a Provost at a college
Tue May 26, 2020, 01:16 PM
May 2020

and one of the things I had to do was to check the public Facebook pages of prospective Professors/instructors for questionable content.

I guess at one point (before I got there) they reprimanded a Chemistry professor for posting pictures and quotes from "Breaking Bad."


I never once saw anything that caught my attention. I think most (of course, not all) people looking for work are smart enough to keep their social media on the up-and-up.

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