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Judi Lynn

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Mon May 25, 2020, 09:48 PM May 2020

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Shoppers should mind their own fucking business and let store mgmt handle it 47of74 May 2020 #1
I'm Confident That Was Not The Case Here sfstaxprep May 2020 #3
Sure about that? 47of74 May 2020 #8
If she had such a letter first take it to custumer service delisen May 2020 #19
There is no mask exception in NY Polybius May 2020 #37
agree Kali May 2020 #4
Yes I remember when wearing seat belts caused trauma to some folks. jaysunb May 2020 #11
It was WAY before my earthly debut but I've seen the commercials where Desi & Lucy were advertising The_REAL_Ecumenist May 2020 #17
Not so long ago. Marcuse May 2020 #22
New Yorkers have been through hell. You might say WE jrthin May 2020 #13
She's just a dipshit BeyondGeography May 2020 #20
I actually know someone who can't wear a mask. hotdamn00 May 2020 #24
Very clever! obamanut2012 May 2020 #32
I have patients who suffer from all of those things. Aristus May 2020 #31
That's crazy Renew Deal May 2020 #2
no shit Kali May 2020 #5
You're not kidding DeminPennswoods May 2020 #23
Good. We all need to be calling out covidiots, IMO relayerbob May 2020 #6
If store policy is that masks be worn, she needs to cpmply. If masks cause here anxiety or PTSD, iluvtennis May 2020 #7
One of my nephews can't get a driver's license... Buckeye_Democrat May 2020 #9
Excellent public health analogy! obamanut2012 May 2020 #33
I can't even figure out who they are yelling at. LisaL May 2020 #10
Here's an idea Seasider May 2020 #12
Italy does it. I have daughter in Italy for school. Disposable gloves and masks provided upon iluvtennis May 2020 #36
Alyssa Milano-Never been prouder of growing up in Staten Island. Gothmog May 2020 #14
Just wait. Grokenstein May 2020 #15
The world seems to have gone crazy. summer_in_TX May 2020 #16
Sorry, but gotta question "masks have some logic behind wearing them" PaulRevere08 May 2020 #34
New York has been a War Zone... FarPoint May 2020 #18
Where can one ask? Renew Deal May 2020 #25
COVID 19 infestation... FarPoint May 2020 #27
I love the fact that someone took their mask off specifically to join in on the scream-fest. Lancero May 2020 #21
You have some very good questions Steelrolled May 2020 #29
We could do with creating some of our own drama bucolic_frolic May 2020 #26
I get the sentiment, and understand their position. But, I don't think... SKKY May 2020 #28
Mob justice and behavior is usually a disgusting display Devil Child May 2020 #30
It reminds me of (and kinda sounds like) the swarming of bluejays when a feral cat is near... NurseJackie May 2020 #35
 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
1. Shoppers should mind their own fucking business and let store mgmt handle it
Mon May 25, 2020, 09:54 PM
May 2020

There actually are physical and/or mental reasons for not wearing a mask

While wearing masks is encouraged during the pandemic, doing so can exacerbate some people's physical or mental health conditions.

"That mask on my face is total trauma to me," said Lisa Hill, of Hardin County.

Holding up the cloth mask her friend sewed for her, Hill said she tried wearing it. But she just can't do it.

"I had a cloth put over my face. I was passed out. Until I came to, I was beat and abused," Hill said. "People are raped, molested, anxiety, PTSD -- it's all real."


She goes on to say it caused her panic attacks when she tried and a doctor said with PTSD it was pretty much useless to tell people like that to calm down, "suck it up" or put a cloth across their faces. Of course the purists here will be on the warpath about that young woman being unable to wear a mask.

sfstaxprep

(9,998 posts)
3. I'm Confident That Was Not The Case Here
Mon May 25, 2020, 09:58 PM
May 2020

And obviously the store, like many, can't be bothered to do ANYTHING.

I applaud these people for telling her where to go.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
8. Sure about that?
Mon May 25, 2020, 10:11 PM
May 2020

And if she flashes a letter from her doctor explaining why she cannot wear a mask the store just stumbled their way into a law suit and the customers into harassment charges. I wear a mask when I go out but if anyone on any side of the political equation gets in my face I call the cops first and ask questions a bit later on.

delisen

(6,039 posts)
19. If she had such a letter first take it to custumer service
Mon May 25, 2020, 11:37 PM
May 2020

Management is prepared to assist.

Polybius

(15,238 posts)
37. There is no mask exception in NY
Tue May 26, 2020, 11:53 AM
May 2020

If you have a medical reason for not wearing one, you don't go into a store.

Kali

(54,990 posts)
4. agree
Mon May 25, 2020, 10:05 PM
May 2020

jaysunb

(11,856 posts)
11. Yes I remember when wearing seat belts caused trauma to some folks.
Mon May 25, 2020, 10:21 PM
May 2020

Just more bullshit for contrarians and attention seekers to use for their needs.


The_REAL_Ecumenist

(713 posts)
17. It was WAY before my earthly debut but I've seen the commercials where Desi & Lucy were advertising
Mon May 25, 2020, 11:11 PM
May 2020

cigarettes they claimed were RECOMMENDED by ACTUAL doctors...WTAF?! Heck I remember my grandmother telling be about a few friends she lost in car accidents in the late 20's, 30's & 40's from people riding in Jump seats, being catapulted through windscreens, & untempered glass, etc. She told me that there were FAR MORE people who cheered the addition of first tempered glass & then, seat belts...(& apparently, people weren't too broken-hearted to see the jumpseat fade into history, either), than those who bitched & moaned about their addition.

I've been telling people I love & care about to act as if ANYONE they might come in contact with, be around, walk past, etc are LETHALLY RADIOACTIVE, like {WALKING CZERNOBYLS}, (Education background is HEAVY biosciences, with an concentration in virology & molecular biology). Alot of the people I've been begging to use whatever passes for a brain to, if NOT for themselves, then for their communities, loved ones & friends, TAKE.THIS.$H!T.SERIOUSLY! Because not too, in deference to the OBESE ORANGE SPLAT, (pathological liar), is analogous to allowing a symptomatic rabid animal to nip at their hands & fingers. It's THAT simple.
I've been telling my Baby to, when possible, to stay AT LEAST 15 FEET away when inside an enclosed space...IN EVERY DIRECTION, (he's an IT ENGINEER), which is something I've noted that all too many places are NOT taking into consideration. They're making sure that people are 6 feet from others IN FRONT OF & BEHIND THEM but they are NOT that far from others BESIDE them.

I'll NEVER understand the nonsensical suicide so MANY seem to be bound & determined to commit for ACTUAL heartless & greedy elites who couldn't care less for them as long they make the money to be depositted into their already bloated accounts... I DO NOT understand why people refuse to take this seriously, DEADLY seriously because CoV19 a DEADLY virus & it KILLS...ALOT!!

Marcuse

(7,392 posts)
22. Not so long ago.
Tue May 26, 2020, 12:55 AM
May 2020


jrthin

(4,825 posts)
13. New Yorkers have been through hell. You might say WE
Mon May 25, 2020, 10:25 PM
May 2020

are suffering from PTSD. And, if someone is unable to comply with mask wearing for whatever reason, there are other means of getting their shopping done w/o entering a store mask-less, and making people feel anxious. It's a two way street. Seeing someone without a mask can make one feel anxious.

BeyondGeography

(39,278 posts)
20. She's just a dipshit
Mon May 25, 2020, 11:50 PM
May 2020

New Yorkers have been annihilated by this virus. If you can’t suck it up and wear a mask it’s up to YOU to make your case up front BEFORE you enter the store and not leave mediation to strangers who are playing by the rules in the frozen food aisle.

hotdamn00

(38 posts)
24. I actually know someone who can't wear a mask.
Tue May 26, 2020, 01:54 AM
May 2020

So he wears a face shield.

obamanut2012

(25,906 posts)
32. Very clever!
Tue May 26, 2020, 10:04 AM
May 2020

Aristus

(66,087 posts)
31. I have patients who suffer from all of those things.
Tue May 26, 2020, 09:55 AM
May 2020

Not to mention asthma, COPD, and heavy smoking.

Not one of them has asked me to provide them with a mask-wearing exemption letter.

I'm trying to imagine someone in World War II with a condition that causes them to blurt out ship sailing times and destinations, which could leave them vulnerable to enemy shipping attacks, and asking for a medical exemption to continue to do so in public.

I don't think it would happen. Such a person would probably be told to stay home, and away from places where their conversations could be overheard.

Renew Deal

(81,801 posts)
2. That's crazy
Mon May 25, 2020, 09:56 PM
May 2020

Everyone needs to calm down.

Kali

(54,990 posts)
5. no shit
Mon May 25, 2020, 10:06 PM
May 2020

all that screaming and yelling may get their particles beyond their masks!

DeminPennswoods

(15,246 posts)
23. You're not kidding
Tue May 26, 2020, 12:58 AM
May 2020

Too many people freaking out. There was a guy here in Pennsylvania that got, or nearly got, arrested for not wearing a mask into a store despite having a signed doctor's note for why he was not wearing one (medical conditions precluding mask wearing are allowed).

relayerbob

(6,508 posts)
6. Good. We all need to be calling out covidiots, IMO
Mon May 25, 2020, 10:06 PM
May 2020

Maybe shame will work where logic and knowledge won't. Maybe the screaming is over the top, but this shit needs to be stopped

iluvtennis

(19,757 posts)
7. If store policy is that masks be worn, she needs to cpmply. If masks cause here anxiety or PTSD,
Mon May 25, 2020, 10:08 PM
May 2020

then she should mkae arrangements with store owner for a store worker to amybe collect her items, she pays for them, and picks them up.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,846 posts)
9. One of my nephews can't get a driver's license...
Mon May 25, 2020, 10:13 PM
May 2020

... because of his severe anxiety issues.

He doesn't flaunt the rules and drive a car anyway.

obamanut2012

(25,906 posts)
33. Excellent public health analogy!
Tue May 26, 2020, 10:05 AM
May 2020

LisaL

(44,962 posts)
10. I can't even figure out who they are yelling at.
Mon May 25, 2020, 10:20 PM
May 2020

If any of them are infected, they could releasing a bunch of viral particles when they are screaming on top of their lungs even if they are wearing a mask. Virus is very small and will pass through the cotton homemade masks and even surgical masks. These masks are also not sealed to the face so there is plenty of spaces for viruses to escape. I don't think that's the way to go.

Seasider

(164 posts)
12. Here's an idea
Mon May 25, 2020, 10:22 PM
May 2020

Why aren't these stores supplying free disposable masks to those who don't have them?

iluvtennis

(19,757 posts)
36. Italy does it. I have daughter in Italy for school. Disposable gloves and masks provided upon
Tue May 26, 2020, 11:16 AM
May 2020

entry to store.

Gothmog

(143,999 posts)
14. Alyssa Milano-Never been prouder of growing up in Staten Island.
Mon May 25, 2020, 10:27 PM
May 2020

Grokenstein

(5,707 posts)
15. Just wait.
Mon May 25, 2020, 10:35 PM
May 2020

Don't be surprised if anti-maskers start winding up dead after the Second Wave.

summer_in_TX

(2,680 posts)
16. The world seems to have gone crazy.
Mon May 25, 2020, 11:01 PM
May 2020

If they are not screaming and yelling at us, or rage-shaming us, then we are doing it to them.

Mob hysteria is not a good look on either those who understand masks can be helpful or those who believe it's a step too far.

Sure, the masks have some logic behind wearing them. But screaming isn't a way to persuade others that they have a rational case to make.

PaulRevere08

(449 posts)
34. Sorry, but gotta question "masks have some logic behind wearing them"
Tue May 26, 2020, 10:18 AM
May 2020

The mask is to protect me from you shedding virus cells. A huge percentage of folks are asystematic and don't know that they are spreading the disease. And masks have been proven to be very effective in keeping large droplets from being released.

Wearing a mask is not a matter of personal freedom and your decision to not care if you get infected. It is to keep you from infecting others. If somebody is willing to spread the disease and harm others then they should be prepared for the backlash.

FarPoint

(12,207 posts)
18. New York has been a War Zone...
Mon May 25, 2020, 11:30 PM
May 2020

Well.. I'm sort of okay with the confrontation...One can always ask for a mask..please still can be kind and would understand.

Renew Deal

(81,801 posts)
25. Where can one ask?
Tue May 26, 2020, 07:30 AM
May 2020

I haven't heard that before.

FarPoint

(12,207 posts)
27. COVID 19 infestation...
Tue May 26, 2020, 07:42 AM
May 2020

That is what I was referring to as a War Zone... escalation of fear, death surrounding all neighborhoods...

Lancero

(2,979 posts)
21. I love the fact that someone took their mask off specifically to join in on the scream-fest.
Tue May 26, 2020, 12:09 AM
May 2020

And then we've got green hoodie dude and his beard that prevents his mask from properly sealing. Whoops.

And, ya know, what flash mob isn't complete with some sexist comments sprinkled in? But hey, did you see what she was (not) wearing? She was asking for it, amirite?

 

Steelrolled

(2,022 posts)
29. You have some very good questions
Tue May 26, 2020, 09:25 AM
May 2020

Sorry, I don't have answers, just another question: Who is the Karen here? I must admit I'm new to the "Karen" thing, and this is really troubling me.

bucolic_frolic

(42,663 posts)
26. We could do with creating some of our own drama
Tue May 26, 2020, 07:38 AM
May 2020

If the shopper had special needs, she knew it, she should phone the store ahead and ask for assistance/procedure.

SKKY

(11,771 posts)
28. I get the sentiment, and understand their position. But, I don't think...
Tue May 26, 2020, 08:43 AM
May 2020

...this is exactly the way to handle it. Why don't we just Cersei Lannister them? "Shame! Shame!!"

 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
30. Mob justice and behavior is usually a disgusting display
Tue May 26, 2020, 09:44 AM
May 2020

I’m sure they all went home congratulating themselves.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
35. It reminds me of (and kinda sounds like) the swarming of bluejays when a feral cat is near...
Tue May 26, 2020, 10:52 AM
May 2020

It reminds me of (and kinda sounds like) the swarming of bluejays when a feral cat is wandering or stalking near their nesting-tree.

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