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milestogo
(16,829 posts)Renew Deal
(81,847 posts)paleotn
(17,884 posts)LisaL
(44,972 posts)I think humans are a lot more like chimpanzees than gorillas in that department.
paleotn
(17,884 posts)is much stronger down our line. Who knows what happened to Bonobos.
Submariner
(12,499 posts)we're doing the same thing to the great apes, cetaceans in aquariums and petting ponds, and big cats. We destroy their will to live, and then wonder why they kill us when given the opportunity.
The Seattle Zoo personnel should know better and get their ass in gear and house and care for these captive prisoners properly, even in the middle of a trumpdemic, or fold their tent.
DFW
(54,302 posts)I hope at least that the little one makes a full recovery. It's not his fault he was born in jail.
pazzyanne
(6,544 posts)Children of any species need to be protected. Sad when the adults lose their minds and the children become victims.
Coventina
(27,064 posts)Very sad story.
shanti
(21,675 posts)The apes there were always hugely popular.
Fla Dem
(23,593 posts)Lonestarblue
(9,958 posts)The trip included multiple days of safari, and seeing so many animals free to roam in their natural habitats was amazing. While I know many people cannot go to Africa to see them, the solution to out them in ages or behind bars with little space to roam seems heartless.
Duppers
(28,117 posts)Zoos should be outlawed except for the larger, free-roam ones as in San Diego. We need to do whatever we can to save species in the wild.
Kid Berwyn
(14,808 posts)Ask anyone, except Trumputin.
ThingsGottaChange
(1,200 posts)Do we really need these horrifyingly depressing stories posted here? Is life not bad enough right now? Jeebus.....
Sapient Donkey
(1,568 posts)Would the gorilla that did that be able to recognize what it did, and would it feel any sort empathy for the baby? Anyone with any expertise on this know?
Judi Lynn
(160,456 posts)Actual concern and integrity still live within some of the human race.
Who knows how safe any gorillas are now as their homes in nature are destroyed by insatiable greedy humans who will never stop until they have reduced everything to dust.
Such sad news. This was not natural behavior.
Coventina
(27,064 posts)First of all, zoos are no longer freaky side-shows primarily for human entertainment.
Such establishments are an abomination and reputable zoos actively work to get them shut down.
They often end up with the traumatized animals from such places.
They also end up with a lot of other animals that would otherwise be euthanized:
the illegal exotic pet trade
injured wild animals that cannot survive on their own, due to the nature of their injuries
"problem" animals that wildlife agents would otherwise kill (orphaned bear cubs, seals who become habituated to people, etc.)
They also are breeding sanctuaries for endangered species to recover and be sent back out into the wild.
Many critically endangered species only survive because of the breeding programs in zoos, where young are raised until they can survive in the wild on their own.
Also, in order to be a reputable zoo, they must have space, environment, and enrichment that serves the animals' needs.
A zoo environment is never going to be "perfect" just as the wild is never "perfect" either.
But reputable zoos are constantly improving, and getting to where their animals do not feel caged, restless, bored, or depressed.
And, that is what, ironically, caused this sad situation. Gorillas need to be in family groups. Peace is usually kept by the silverback male, who arbitrates the behavior of the family. Somehow, in this case, things got out of hand. It is tragic, but not due to the fact that this family troop was in a zoo. Thousands of baby gorillas have grown up in zoo families without incident.
Please try to be somewhat informed about what a zoo actually is, before passing judgement.
That's all I ask.
flamingdem
(39,308 posts)safari park and zoo and they focus on species preservation not exploitation.
Coventina
(27,064 posts)StarryNite
(9,440 posts)no matrix
(17 posts)Columbus Zoo and Tampa Zoo are featured on this series.
[link:https://www.nationalgeographic.com/tv/shows/secrets-of-the-zoo|
We binged watched this several times on Disney+ with our 8 yr. old granddaughter during our quarantine.
The dedication displayed these facilities, is heartwarming. Some of these animals are taken in because their mothers were hunted and killed. They needed surrogate mothers immediately.
Restored my faith in humanity. Really.
Thanks for bringing this to light.