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brooklynite

(94,333 posts)
Sat May 23, 2020, 09:02 AM May 2020

A hairstylist worked while symptomatic and exposed 91 people to coronavirus

Source: CNN

A hairstylist with coronavirus worked for eight days this month while symptomatic, exposing as many as 91 customers and coworkers in Missouri, health officials said.

The case highlights the threats of community spread in the United States as businesses reopen after weeks of restrictions to combat the spread of coronavirus.

In this instance, the 84 customers exposed got services from the hairstylist at Great Clips, said Clay Goddard, director of the Springfield-Greene County Health Department. In addition to the customers, seven coworkers were also notified of exposure.

It's unclear when the stylist tested positive but the infection is believed to have happened while traveling. The stylist worked May 12 through Wednesday, health officials said Friday. At the time, businesses such as barbershops and hair salons were allowed to operate in the state.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/23/us/missouri-hairstylist-coronavirus-trnd/index.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twCNN&utm_content=2020-05-23T12%3A29%3A01&utm_term=link



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A hairstylist worked while symptomatic and exposed 91 people to coronavirus (Original Post) brooklynite May 2020 OP
𝙻̶𝚒̶𝚋̶𝚎̶𝚛̶𝚊̶𝚝̶𝚎̶ Obliterate Missouri. tanyev May 2020 #1
While symptomatic is unethical as hell. Did the the hairstylist at least have a mask on? still_one May 2020 #2
Since we have no reasonable sick leave laws in this country, AllyCat May 2020 #11
that's a really good point that can't be emphasized enough Blues Heron May 2020 #15
We need income support during a pandemic DBoon May 2020 #21
Republican State and not a WORD about where that place is, the persons name etc...... Bengus81 May 2020 #17
Springfield, Missouri FakeNoose May 2020 #19
Population around 200,000 LibinMo May 2020 #33
Springfield MO isn't that small pstokely May 2020 #38
according to the article, yes there where mask worn by the stylist and clients. Cobalt Violet May 2020 #24
Start the count. LisaL May 2020 #32
everyone was masked so we'll see if that's enough to provide safety Blues Heron May 2020 #3
I am positive we are not talking about quality PPE here. LisaL May 2020 #7
self appointed guineau pigs- shaking my head Blues Heron May 2020 #9
Even with masks, people are still supposed to be 6 feet apart AllyCat May 2020 #13
Adding to the problem, any face covering counts as a mask. LisaL May 2020 #20
That's Why This Whole RobinA May 2020 #34
Well, even home made masks help to stop the spread. LisaL May 2020 #35
I Remain To Be RobinA May 2020 #45
It's not. We can start counting. LisaL May 2020 #30
That's the problem padah513 May 2020 #4
Also visited a fitness center, according to the Kansas City Star article excerpted at progree May 2020 #5
Did she have sick pay? LittleGirl May 2020 #6
It's a question. Depends. Igel May 2020 #12
She's reopening the economy. D'ya suppose Donald and Melania need a trim? keithbvadu2 May 2020 #14
Many are contractors DBoon May 2020 #22
Yep, it's a feature not a bug LittleGirl May 2020 #29
She worked for a corporate hair salon Freddie May 2020 #8
Cheap haircuts come with big hidden price sometimes. Cobalt Violet May 2020 #36
This is really scary. AirmensMom May 2020 #10
This is the future of all these State re-openings..... Bengus81 May 2020 #16
Your last sentence is very true of the salon industry. Cobalt Violet May 2020 #37
It would be very interesting to know how many customers were infected Steelrolled May 2020 #18
If she's asymptomatic, she's infected and should be quarantined rocktivity May 2020 #23
Yet my stupid state, Massachusetts, a known hot spot opens salons in phase 1. Cobalt Violet May 2020 #25
No and it's not even June yet. Initech May 2020 #28
All for the economy first. keithbvadu2 May 2020 #26
What could go wrong? Initech May 2020 #27
This is the shop my husband and I have used LibinMo May 2020 #31
meanwhile in the Ozarks pstokely May 2020 #39
Yikes. But I guess this is what happens in Pussy-Grabber Paradise. BigDemVoter May 2020 #40
Yeah, but don't I look great with my new do? Miigwech May 2020 #41
Some might end up looking great in the coffin. LisaL May 2020 #42
That is true. Miigwech May 2020 #43
Now up to 140 infected customers because of a second stylist............ Bengus81 May 2020 #44
Actually RobinA May 2020 #46
exposed and then find out in the coming days on positives..... Bengus81 May 2020 #47

still_one

(92,061 posts)
2. While symptomatic is unethical as hell. Did the the hairstylist at least have a mask on?
Sat May 23, 2020, 09:06 AM
May 2020

Of course what no one has answered is what about those people who are asymptomatic?


AllyCat

(16,140 posts)
11. Since we have no reasonable sick leave laws in this country,
Sat May 23, 2020, 10:29 AM
May 2020

this will continue to happen in other places too.

DBoon

(22,340 posts)
21. We need income support during a pandemic
Sat May 23, 2020, 01:21 PM
May 2020

Instead what we have is Mitch Mc complaining that our unemployment is too generous because it encourages people to stay home instead of going to work and getting infected.

Bengus81

(6,928 posts)
17. Republican State and not a WORD about where that place is, the persons name etc......
Sat May 23, 2020, 11:56 AM
May 2020

As stated before these PUKES now want to hide as much of this kind of shit as possible to make Trump look better for a few minutes. SOAB!! It should be clearly stated where that is and all the other facts.

Let me guess...same State that figured some queer in the 80's should have been charged with first degree murder for infecting someone else with AIDS. That's really rich because this could turn into multiple deaths unless they hide it more than already.

FakeNoose

(32,579 posts)
19. Springfield, Missouri
Sat May 23, 2020, 12:52 PM
May 2020

It's a small town in the southwestern corner of the state, closer to Arkansas and Oklahoma than it is to Saint Louis or Kansas City.



LibinMo

(533 posts)
33. Population around 200,000
Sat May 23, 2020, 06:46 PM
May 2020

We are 35 miles north of Branson, where the summer tourist season could spread Covid-19 all over the country.

Cobalt Violet

(9,905 posts)
24. according to the article, yes there where mask worn by the stylist and clients.
Sat May 23, 2020, 02:02 PM
May 2020

It will be interesting to see how much it spread even with masks.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
32. Start the count.
Sat May 23, 2020, 06:42 PM
May 2020

Second hairstylist tested positive. She had 56 clients.
"The health department says 56 clients were potentially directly exposed by the second case. These clients will be notified by the health officials and be offered testing."
https://www.ky3.com/content/news/Second-hair-stylist-from-Springfield-Great-Clips-tests-positive-for-COVID-19-570724181.html

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
7. I am positive we are not talking about quality PPE here.
Sat May 23, 2020, 09:55 AM
May 2020

So, my guess, no, it would not be enough. I guess we have to wait and see how many will get infected from that little experiment.

AllyCat

(16,140 posts)
13. Even with masks, people are still supposed to be 6 feet apart
Sat May 23, 2020, 10:31 AM
May 2020

So, unless the stylist had some really long scissors, clippers, and combs...I doubt it. But this would be a test of the recommendation for sure.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
20. Adding to the problem, any face covering counts as a mask.
Sat May 23, 2020, 01:04 PM
May 2020

A bandana, a scarf, a whatever.
These masks are not tested to see how well they work. If they all were wearing quality N95 respirators, it could have been a different story. But obviously chances are, they were not. Add to that, with hair washing, etc, it's hard to even keep the mask on and mask could get wet and be pretty useless.

RobinA

(9,886 posts)
34. That's Why This Whole
Sat May 23, 2020, 06:51 PM
May 2020

mask thing is dangerous BS. They can't tell us to wear N95s because there aren't any. So they tell us to wear any covering and people think they and everyone around them are safe. And they shame other people for not wearing whatever over their faces. I look around and see people with all these made up masks and it just seems so sorry.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
35. Well, even home made masks help to stop the spread.
Sat May 23, 2020, 07:10 PM
May 2020

So better to wear homemade masks than no masks. However, people should still be social distancing. But in this case, she would have been close to the clients and her colleagues for prolonged periods of times. We already know one of her colleagues tested positive.

RobinA

(9,886 posts)
45. I Remain To Be
Tue May 26, 2020, 12:14 PM
May 2020

convinced that non-N95s do much of anything. I wear one because I have to, but I think this mask thing is a crock.

padah513

(2,496 posts)
4. That's the problem
Sat May 23, 2020, 09:12 AM
May 2020

Without testing, who knows who has what or when they have it. No telling how many of those 91 were infected if any, or how many they might have infected.

progree

(10,892 posts)
5. Also visited a fitness center, according to the Kansas City Star article excerpted at
Sat May 23, 2020, 09:14 AM
May 2020
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213473587
The hairstylist also visited a Dairy Queen, Walmart and fitness center, officials said.

LittleGirl

(8,279 posts)
6. Did she have sick pay?
Sat May 23, 2020, 09:41 AM
May 2020

Probably not, which is why anyone goes to works sick, especially during a pandemic.

I’m sorry this happened but the cruelties from low wage earners like salon workers is that they don’t have sick pay which is the point. They and everyone that comes in contact with is disposable. 😥

keithbvadu2

(36,655 posts)
14. She's reopening the economy. D'ya suppose Donald and Melania need a trim?
Sat May 23, 2020, 10:47 AM
May 2020

She's reopening the economy.

D'ya suppose Donald and Melania need a trim?

DBoon

(22,340 posts)
22. Many are contractors
Sat May 23, 2020, 01:23 PM
May 2020

hair salons will rent out seats and treat stylists as subcontractors largely to avoid the costs and liability of an employment relationship.

The gig economy is literally killing people

Freddie

(9,256 posts)
8. She worked for a corporate hair salon
Sat May 23, 2020, 09:59 AM
May 2020

Those places are famous for no paid sick time and firing stylists who call out unpaid. Don’t blame her, blame the greedy corporate masters.

Cobalt Violet

(9,905 posts)
36. Cheap haircuts come with big hidden price sometimes.
Sun May 24, 2020, 01:02 AM
May 2020

Around here Great Clips is the bottom of the barrel corporate salon.

AirmensMom

(14,637 posts)
10. This is really scary.
Sat May 23, 2020, 10:16 AM
May 2020

My husband has gone from "needing a haircut is a badge of honor" to "I can't stand it anymore." And he's going next week. Our hairdresser has been covered up ever since she reopened a month or so ago, so that's a lot of potential people to pick it up from. I'm absolutely terrified. Oh yeah, and I am perfectly capable of cutting his hair. Not perfect, but enough to get him through at least another month. Needless to say, I have cancelled my appointment. We still pay her, even if we don't go, because I'd rather she not feel financially squeezed by this.

Bengus81

(6,928 posts)
16. This is the future of all these State re-openings.....
Sat May 23, 2020, 11:49 AM
May 2020

Not one DAMN thing has changed with this virus since it hit the US. Lives and positive cases were saved only because of shut downs and distancing--not because of a drug which you won't see until a year from now or longer.

Most businesses will adhere to re-opening guide lines for about five minutes, or until they know that there are no "virus cops" lurking around.

Cobalt Violet

(9,905 posts)
37. Your last sentence is very true of the salon industry.
Sun May 24, 2020, 01:16 AM
May 2020

People who think it going to be safe are delusional. Salons will run out gowns but keep working because the book is full. Same with masks and gloves. Corners will be cut. Time is money. People will be squeezed in. Not enough time will be allocated to the new sanitation protocol. Work will need to be to work. No paid time off. Work sick or no money.

 

Steelrolled

(2,022 posts)
18. It would be very interesting to know how many customers were infected
Sat May 23, 2020, 12:01 PM
May 2020

I'm not sure if they will publish that information. And of course, it will become a political point which will further pressure the numbers to be kept hidden. This is what happens when politics infects society.

rocktivity

(44,572 posts)
23. If she's asymptomatic, she's infected and should be quarantined
Sat May 23, 2020, 01:39 PM
May 2020

Those 91 people should be tested as well, of course -- well, everyone in the state should be tested


rocktivity

Cobalt Violet

(9,905 posts)
25. Yet my stupid state, Massachusetts, a known hot spot opens salons in phase 1.
Sat May 23, 2020, 02:04 PM
May 2020

There is no way this will end well.

Initech

(100,038 posts)
28. No and it's not even June yet.
Sat May 23, 2020, 05:08 PM
May 2020

Just when I think this year can't get any worse, there are new surprises waiting in store.

keithbvadu2

(36,655 posts)
26. All for the economy first.
Sat May 23, 2020, 02:48 PM
May 2020

No real healthcare for people getting sick on the job (and then die).

Republicans don't mind killing living babies.
Republicans want to deny adequate health care to ordinary Americans.
Republicans want Americans to go back to work in dangerous conditions.
Republicans want corporations to have legal immunity for workers who get sick and die doing dangerous jobs.
Republicans are against requiring safe working conditions for ordinary Americans.
Republicans are OK with killing off 2-3% of children who go back to school early.

All for the economy first.

LibinMo

(533 posts)
31. This is the shop my husband and I have used
Sat May 23, 2020, 06:41 PM
May 2020

for hair cuts and his beard trims for the last few years. Since we're both senior citizens we have sheltered in place since early March. Now I'm going to let my hair grow until it's long enough to pull back in a pony tail!

Another employee at the same shop has tested positive -56 more possible exposures. I went to the Walmart grocery pickup this morning and less than 10% of the customers were wearing face masks. Crazy.

BigDemVoter

(4,149 posts)
40. Yikes. But I guess this is what happens in Pussy-Grabber Paradise.
Sun May 24, 2020, 03:04 AM
May 2020

My sister-in-law sent me a photo of some swine sitting outside a local bakery and harrassing customers going in with masks. Disgusting.

Bengus81

(6,928 posts)
44. Now up to 140 infected customers because of a second stylist............
Sun May 24, 2020, 04:41 PM
May 2020

And how many have they unknowingly infected? The first tech had gone to the DQ a time or two so it would be spread there. Oh the joys of getting this Nation OPEN eh Trump??

Bengus81

(6,928 posts)
47. exposed and then find out in the coming days on positives.....
Tue May 26, 2020, 02:12 PM
May 2020

But...it won't set at only 140 exposed, it could be a thousand or more.

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