After Toronto attack, online misogynists praise suspect as 'new saint'

[grantcart]

Source: NBC News

Before allegedly killing 10 people with a van in Toronto, Alek Minassian appeared to have posted a message on Facebook that linked him to a toxic online community of misogynists that has become the source of a growing pattern of violence.

The Facebook post, which authorities who spoke with NBC News believe came from Minassian, links Minassian to an online community known as “incels,” short for involuntary celibates. The Canadian Broadcasting Corporation also reported that Facebook confirmed the authenticity of the post.

Self-described incels congregate mostly online, meeting in forums and message boards like Reddit and 4chan, and its offshoot site 8chan, to discuss their hopelessness with women in posts that are peppered with racist and misogynistic rants. “Chads” are incel-speak for good-looking men, who incels believe can’t be one of them. “Stacys” are the women who find “Chads” attractive.

The Facebook message also refers admiringly to Elliot Rodger, who killed six people in Isla Vista, California, in 2014, and left behind a manifesto and videos detailing his sexual frustration as the motivation for his violence. Rodger has since emerged as a source of inspiration among the incel community.

“Private (Recruit) Minassian Infantry 00010, wishing to speak to Sgt 4chan please. C23249161. The Incel Rebellion has already begun! We will overthrow all the Chads and Stacys! All hail the Supreme Gentleman Elliot Rodger!” Minassian allegedly posted.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/after-toronto-attack-online-misogynists-praise-suspect-new-saint-n868821

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This is the same demographic as modern Nazis, Sovereign Citizens, Alt Right.

Incel = just another name for a delusional loser.

[ck4829]

1. All terrorism is bad, wrong, evil. I just find it interesting to say the least...

ISIS, Al Qaeda, etc. justifies their attacks as other nations offending their religious symbols and lands, affronts and insults, as a response to cultural imperialism, the horrifically designed borders in the middle east that have no reflection on cultural boundaries, etc. (Just remember, I'm not justifying these attacks, just putting it out there)

Our guys shoot people, hit people with cars, become Nazis, etc. because they can't get dates/because they are convinced beautiful women SHOULD throw themselves at them and if they aren't there must be something wrong with the world.

I can't find a more clear cut case of first world problems.

[grantcart]

3. Virtually all terrorists share one common sociological trait

They do not have a successful intimate relationship with a significant other.

Displaced self hatred for not being able to achieve the one basic human need that they are individually most responsible for.

Governments can assist with education, food, housing, etc., but in the end you have to make relationships on your own.

Their friends and family distance themselves from these losers and they end up finding each other on the internet.

[ck4829]

5. Yep, I can see that

They’re more in love with the idea of a person or nation than with the reality.

[Dave Starsky]

8. Association does not imply causality.

They may be lovelorn BECAUSE they are miserable shitbags, and not the other way around.

I think that's definitely the case with these "incel" losers.

[grantcart]

11. True but my point is really the inverse.

People who have fulfilling love lives don't become terrorists.

In most cases they don't have, and haven't had any significant others, its a precondition. Obviously everybody who is single is not a potential terrorist but with very rare exceptions they don't have any significant other.

[Dave Starsky]

12. I think it takes a lot of rage to be a terrorist.

Whatever the source of that rage may be.

Walking powder kegs of rage aren't exactly "boyfriend" material.

But who knows? Maybe this is a chicken-egg thing.

[susanna]

19. So much this. YES.

No one can make us engaging or interesting to others; that's our own job.

That is how human relationships commence. There is no magic; you must work at it.

Thank you for the insight, grantcart.

[LisaM]

9. I don't think people having to fear for their lives or safety is a first-world problem

no matter who you are.

[ck4829]

20. That's right.

This whole thing about throwing fatal temper tantrums because women won't serve your every sexual whim is though.

[bigworld]

2. What a group of losers

No wonder they don't have girlfriends.

[paleotn]

4. Dear god, why can't these people grow the hell up?

[7962]

14. Thank you

[Bernardo de La Paz]

6. NOT the same demographic. Many are non-white, duh. . . . . . nt

[torius]

18. Elliot Roger was not white...

not that it's relevant at all...
Also, he was rather good-looking. Just had major emotional and mental issues.
I guess being Eurasian like him, I feel like hapas get called "white" whereas other mixed people don't, as often, and I'm not sure why that is. Perhaps our looks are often ambiguous and our names are often Western.

[jayschool2013]

7. Get these guys a fleshlight (NFM)

*

[Raster]

10. "Incel" means: I can't get laid because I'm ugly douchebag...

...and it's all their fault!

Suggestions:

1. Get down off the cross... this is not "the wood" they're talking about.

2. Shave that shagnasty neckbeard off. If you're going to have a beard, wash it, condition it, trim it. And NO, just having a beard does not make you look virile.

3. Brush your teeth, and in general, UPGRADE the hygiene. No one wants to have sex with a smelly varmint with bad teeth and bad grooming.

4. Manners, class, manners. No one wants ANYTHING to do with a loud, overbearing, obnoxious douchebag.

5. Kindness and decency count. Hate to break it to you Adolph, but very few men or women want to have anything to do with a racist, sexist, homophobic, misogynistic lout. No one thinks your edgy, except for your pathetic crew.

[Plucketeer]

13. Call that Whaaambulance!

I'm not getting the pussy that life guarantees me!

You can bet Trump's a hero for these folks.

[7962]

15. Couldn't they just get a hooker?

[Plucketeer]

16. I wondered that too.

Of course, they'd get none of the intimacy they're craving.

[Ilsa]

17. Dudes, it's not your looks turning women off.

It's your attitude and personality.

I've dated plain men, homely men, and a few that were ugly. Some skinny, some fat, none perfect. But it was their attitude that hooked me, along with personality, kindness, etc.

[xor]

21. I always thought that stuff was just trolls trying to be edgy/funny/rile people up

Amazes me how entitled some people can be. Same thing with the whole alt-right nonsense. 100% right when you say they are delusional losers.