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Skinner

(63,645 posts)
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:34 PM Feb 2019

You asked for it! The Democratic Primaries forum opens TODAY!

This discussion thread was locked by Skinner (a host of the Announcements group).

This is kind of important. You might want to read through the whole thing.

There are only 348 days left until the Iowa Caucuses! Which means it's well past time for the official Democratic Presidential primary season to begin here on DU. As usual, we will require that all discussions about the Democratic presidential primary take place in a dedicated Democratic Primaries forum. But this year we are making a few changes that will hopefully improve the experience for everyone. Check it out....


WHERE TO POST ABOUT THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARIES

Discussion of the 2020 Democratic Presidential primaries is only permitted in the Democratic Primaries forum, and in the dedicated candidate supporter groups. These discussions are not permitted in Latest Breaking News, Editorials & Other Articles, Video & Multimedia, General Discussion, The DU Lounge, or anywhere else. In certain forums you will be prompted with an interrupt page directing you to post your Democratic primary discussions in the Democratic Primaries forum.


THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARIES FORUM & CANDIDATE PREFERENCE FUNCTION

In order to post in the Democratic Primaries forum, you must select your preferred candidate. (If you are undecided, don't worry -- "Undecided" is one of the options.) Your selection is logged by our software, and then presented on your Profile page, and in place of your signature line when posting in the Democratic Primaries forum. Currently you may select from the following: Undecided, Biden, Booker, Brown, Buttigieg, Castro, Delaney, Gabbard, Gillibrand, Harris, Hickenlooper, Klobuchar, O'Rourke, Sanders, Warren, and Yang. We can easily add additional candidates later if necessary, and candidates will be removed when they drop out of the race or officially declare that they're not running. You can change your candidate preference at any time.

Keeping track of members' candidate preferences has the following benefits: 1) When someone posts about the primaries, their stated candidate preference will provide useful context to their post. 2) We can tally the number of people who have indicated a preference for each candidate to get a general idea of how much support they enjoy on DU. 3) We will use stated candidate support as a means to grant access to dedicated candidate supporter groups. 4) We can potentially use candidate preferences to balance the partisan makeup of juries that are called to judge alerted posts, if we deem it necessary. 5) We can use candidate preferences to display or hide posts from candidate supporter groups on the Latest Page or elsewhere.

Members' regular signature lines and avatar images do not appear when posting in the Democratic Primaries forum. Instead, only the special candidate preference signature line appears.

Remember, if you don't want to see posts from the Democratic Primaries forum, you can trash it. Just click the "Trash this forum" button at the top of the forum.

+ The Democratic Primaries forum is here.

+ "If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for..." Set your candidate preference here.

+ View current candidate rankings here.


CANDIDATE AVATAR IMAGES

We have added new Democratic primary candidate avatar images to our collection of available avatars. For officially declared candidates there are two avatars, a photo and a logo (potential candidates just have a photo). Currently we provide avatars for the following candidates: Biden, Booker, Brown, Buttigieg, Castro, Delaney, Gabbard, Gillibrand, Harris, Hickenlooper, Klobuchar, O'Rourke, Sanders, Warren, Yang. We can easily add additional candidates later if necessary.

To change your avatar image, click the "My Profile" link at the top of any page (or just click here) Click the "Edit" link next to "Avatar image." Candidate photos are available under the "Politicians" section; candidate logos are available under the "Logos" section.


CANDIDATE SUPPORTER GROUPS

Sometime tomorrow, we will close down the existing candidate supporter groups. Within a few weeks we will open new candidate supporter groups, incorporating some changes which we will announce later.


A REMINDER ABOUT THE DU RULES

In case there is any question, let me be very clear: DU rules apply to the entire discussion forum, including the new Democratic Primaries forum and candidate supporter groups. If you haven't read them in a while, RIGHT NOW would be a good time to go refresh your memory. They are good rules, they make DU better, and we intend to keep on enforcing them. You can read the rules on our Terms of Service page.

To preemptively respond to the inevitable complaints: The rules make clear that constructive criticism of Democrats is always welcome on DU. But if you are incapable of presenting your criticism in a thoughtful, substantive way and end up losing your ability to post, that is YOUR PROBLEM not mine.


A FINAL THOUGHT

All too often in the past Democratic Primary season on DU was a cesspool of toxic partisan ugliness, and I am much too jaded and cynical to promise you that this time will be any different. But I do believe that it is possible (maybe?) for primary season on Democratic Underground to be better than it has been in the past. If you post with the attitude that all of our candidates are good enough, and they're all far superior to Donald Trump, then you should be fine. But if post with the attitude that any Democratic candidate is The Enemy who must be destroyed by any means necessary, then you are going to cause problems for DU and for yourself.

May the best candidate win.

BTW, if you encounter any bugs or problems with the software please post them in this thread. Thanks.

Skinner, EarlG, Elad
DU Admins
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You asked for it! The Democratic Primaries forum opens TODAY! (Original Post) Skinner Feb 2019 OP
Thank you. MrsCoffee Feb 2019 #1
"Democratic" DownriverDem Feb 2019 #44
I'm with you 100% on that. MrsCoffee Feb 2019 #53
Glad to hear it DownriverDem Feb 2019 #63
He didn't quit because he lost JonLP24 Feb 2019 #122
Don't forget DENVERPOPS Feb 2019 #103
Mic DROP! ronnykmarshall Mar 2019 #125
Just in time, thanks. nt Grasswire2 Feb 2019 #2
I LOVE HARRIS! But we need votes in the US Senate; Why not do a Dr. Howard Dean thing? Jeffersons Ghost Feb 2019 #95
I agree. We have four members of the Judiciary committee running question everything Feb 2019 #119
YAY! MoonRiver Feb 2019 #3
K&R stonecutter357 Feb 2019 #4
Awesome job! bearsfootball516 Feb 2019 #5
Thanks, Skinner. As late as last week, I'd thought it would be jumping the gun LanternWaste Feb 2019 #6
Why does "You asked for it" almost sound taunting? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2019 #7
I certainly didn't ask for it. DFW Feb 2019 #52
"Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more!" bhikkhu Feb 2019 #81
Some of us have. Repeatedly. question everything Feb 2019 #120
Love the new approach Politicub Feb 2019 #8
I hope it catches on. lpbk2713 Feb 2019 #9
Thanks! lunatica Feb 2019 #10
Nice! workinclasszero Feb 2019 #11
great now if there was a forum for all twitter posts with no content... nt msongs Feb 2019 #12
Yes I dislike those too. PatrickforO Feb 2019 #91
I'm guessing many either ignored or will ignore the Final Thought. theaocp Feb 2019 #13
Then let them face the consequences True Dough Feb 2019 #25
NICE !!! So does talking about the primaries also mean talking about the candidates? When will ... uponit7771 Feb 2019 #14
Thank you (and I appreciate your final thought). demmiblue Feb 2019 #15
Thanks, guys. DinahMoeHum Feb 2019 #16
true: Democrats need prosecution for Trump-treason Jeffersons Ghost Feb 2019 #96
THANK YOU!!!! Bettie Feb 2019 #17
Please waive the rule on trashing democrats... Maxheader Feb 2019 #18
Bernie isn't a Democrat. SergeStorms Feb 2019 #72
Good job! Maxheader Feb 2019 #75
For purposes of DU, he is. Ms. Toad Feb 2019 #84
Oh THANK the makers of DU BumRushDaShow Feb 2019 #19
Excellent timing Awsi Dooger Feb 2019 #20
Great! LiberalLovinLug Feb 2019 #21
Thanks Skinner, EarlG and Elad! You guys are the best! livetohike Feb 2019 #22
Thanks Renew Deal Feb 2019 #23
LOL CatWoman Feb 2019 #24
I try to steer clear of it too... WePurrsevere Feb 2019 #123
Great idea! Hopefully, this will include moving "the latest polls" into that category, as well. C Moon Feb 2019 #26
This is a wise move True Dough Feb 2019 #27
One suggestion, would be interesting to see a raw total next to each candidate percentage. bearsfootball516 Feb 2019 #28
Hallelujah! ornotna Feb 2019 #29
Question--will the current primary threads in GD be allowed to go on? Maeve Feb 2019 #30
We'll probably lock them shortly. (nt) Skinner Feb 2019 #31
Good. GeorgeGist Feb 2019 #32
k pwb Feb 2019 #33
THANK YOU!!! TygrBright Feb 2019 #34
Just in time. Thanks, dudes! yardwork Feb 2019 #35
Wow!!! Incredible!!!Thanks!!! RKP5637 Feb 2019 #36
Thanks! We appreciate your hard work. Glad to hear GD and LBN will stay clean.... KY_EnviroGuy Feb 2019 #37
Thank you and well done! KPN Feb 2019 #38
Thank you. safeinOhio Feb 2019 #39
Aaaaannnd....we're OFF to the races!!! Yee-ha! Honeycombe8 Feb 2019 #40
Ever thought of running for office? nolabear Feb 2019 #41
It's very gracious of you to include "Sanders" among the Democrats. TygrBright Feb 2019 #42
The rules have been explicit on this issue for two and a half years. Skinner Feb 2019 #43
Excellent, thanks. Might not come amiss to note in a FAQ sticky for the forum itself, though. TygrBright Feb 2019 #46
He is running as a Democrat and could win the Dem nomination, Liberty Belle Feb 2019 #59
What about posting in the state forums? Some potential candidates will have implications hlthe2b Feb 2019 #45
I tend to think that would be fine. Skinner Feb 2019 #48
Thank you. nt littlemissmartypants Feb 2019 #79
Great stuff...thx! NRaleighLiberal Feb 2019 #47
Great idea! Power 2 the People Feb 2019 #49
Are we allowed to . . . Roadside Attraction Feb 2019 #50
Skinner answered that with a link to this ... left-of-center2012 Feb 2019 #71
The first primaries are nearly year away. DFW Feb 2019 #51
Skinner gets an A+ for this. oasis Feb 2019 #54
Brilliant! applegrove Feb 2019 #55
dang. you guys are geniuses. mopinko Feb 2019 #56
very interesting how you have set it up Kali Feb 2019 #57
Agreed. Remember, if you trash Bernie or Kamala or anyone and they wind up as the nominee, Liberty Belle Feb 2019 #58
Agree 100%; save the vitriole for the opposing candidate come 2020. Don't be played. Evolve Dammit Feb 2019 #77
If Bernie ends up as he nominee we get Trump for 4 more years wiley Feb 2019 #87
Nicely done, DU team. MH1 Feb 2019 #60
Thank you DU Admins! ffr Feb 2019 #61
Thank you Skinner, EarlG, and Elad!! ailsagirl Feb 2019 #62
how about not allowing Twitter posts? KayF Feb 2019 #64
Good thinking, Skinner! Thanks! nt LAS14 Feb 2019 #65
Great! klook Feb 2019 #66
Good Idea. MarcA Feb 2019 #67
Just in time. Hallelujah. nt Hekate Feb 2019 #68
Well played. This is a great way to do it IronLionZion Feb 2019 #69
An exciting idea! defacto7 Feb 2019 #70
Thank you, Skinner! sueh Feb 2019 #73
¡Gracias, Skinner! IluvPitties Feb 2019 #74
yay! Arigatou! yuiyoshida Feb 2019 #76
Awesome! Thanks! Wednesdays Feb 2019 #78
Thanks again y'all, for all of your good work. ❤ nt littlemissmartypants Feb 2019 #80
Is there any way to make the poll portraits line up left to right? LAS14 Feb 2019 #82
They are supposed to show left to right. Skinner Feb 2019 #83
Also, the names don't show next... LAS14 Feb 2019 #88
Huh. It works as you say in Edge. The problem is in... LAS14 Feb 2019 #86
I'm using Chrome on Windows 10, and it is working. Skinner Feb 2019 #89
Thanks! That worked. Who knew... LAS14 Feb 2019 #100
Anybody but Bernie wiley Feb 2019 #85
Wonderful! - I've already trashed it! ThoughtCriminal Feb 2019 #90
Thank you, thank you, thank you. argyl Feb 2019 #92
Thanks, Admins! calimary Feb 2019 #93
Thank You. Can there ever be a "ranked choice" option? Steven Maurer Feb 2019 #94
Can there be a "whoever is the Democratic nominee" option ? eppur_se_muova Feb 2019 #97
Eric Stalwell blue cat Feb 2019 #98
If you were to vote in a presidential primary today, would you vote for Eric Stalwell? Skinner Feb 2019 #99
Uh, that would be Swalwell. klook Feb 2019 #101
Thanks! May DU stay civil, may the hackers and trolls be few, and may the best candidate win! FailureToCommunicate Feb 2019 #102
QUESTION re: close down the existing candidate supporter groups MH1 Feb 2019 #104
I think we are not shutting down the Barack Obama group. Skinner Feb 2019 #105
Thanks. What about others, like Kerry, O'Malley? nt MH1 Feb 2019 #107
Not sure. (nt) Skinner Feb 2019 #108
What about The Hillary Group? BooScout Feb 2019 #111
Not sure. (nt) Skinner Feb 2019 #112
Please do not close the Hillary group question everything Feb 2019 #114
+ infinity, question everything! sheshe2 Feb 2019 #117
Yes, Please Leave Hillary's Group Cha Feb 2019 #116
I would like to echo the requests Sparkly Mar 2019 #126
I'm thankful. Good idea. It was getting hard, mahina Feb 2019 #106
All Candidates are good enough romainetarra Feb 2019 #109
half a month short of a year before the Iowa caucuses stevesinpa Feb 2019 #110
Those first two sentences are a joke. Skinner Feb 2019 #113
Thank you for the forum and I love the way people declare who they like Beringia Feb 2019 #115
Whatever candidates go through this campaign apkhgp Feb 2019 #118
Could I post in candidate supporters forums? JonLP24 Feb 2019 #121
What about the states groups? question everything Mar 2019 #124
In 2016, asked for this multiple times but it was never done - why? why now? Justice Apr 2019 #127
Have the rules changed to one mention per state primary comtest? progree Mar 2020 #128

MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
1. Thank you.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:36 PM
Feb 2019

DownriverDem

(6,205 posts)
44. "Democratic"
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:38 PM
Feb 2019

I like that. They must be a member of the Democratic Party or they don't get my support.

MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
53. I'm with you 100% on that.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:57 PM
Feb 2019

DownriverDem

(6,205 posts)
63. Glad to hear it
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 05:59 PM
Feb 2019

I'm getting beat up pretty bad by folks who just don't get it. I don't want someone who joins the Democratic Party just so they can run and then quits when they lose.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
122. He didn't quit because he lost
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 09:10 AM
Feb 2019

He's been an Independent in Vermont for a long time he never lost as a Democrat because he was an Independent. Rather than pull a Ralph Nader he runs under the Democratic nomination for President he went back as an Independent for his constituents who he has represented as an Independent for a very long time.

His voting record is among the most liberal in the Senate and he caucasus with Democrats. Joe Manchin is a registered Democrat who votes in line with the Republican party while Sanders consistently backs liberal policies.

DENVERPOPS

(8,677 posts)
103. Don't forget
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 03:27 PM
Feb 2019

Don't forget all the "DINO"s RUNNING AROUND OUT THERE.................

AND MORE IMPORTANTLY........

Trump is still providing his daily smoke screen for the Republican Senate to continue to shove thru stuff right and left. The predominately Republican owned mainstream Media gives little press to the daily corruption of our Democracy being done by the Republican Senators! Here is just todays sneaky crap, that has been going on continuously for years, while they are using Trump’s daily antics to divert attention from all they are doing……….

Trump would not exist for a minute if it weren’t for the Republicans in congress totally enabling him so they can pull this crap off……….and yet no press is ever given to all the Republican congress’s evil doings! If the Dems would just focus every day on talking about all of this crap being shoved thru instead of continually having their attention on Trump, maybe something would change!!!!!!

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/2/21/1836599/-McConnell-ready-to-launch-mini-nuke-on-Senate-to-jam-more-nominees-through-faster#view-story

ronnykmarshall

(35,356 posts)
125. Mic DROP!
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 10:45 PM
Mar 2019

BOOM!

Grasswire2

(13,564 posts)
2. Just in time, thanks. nt
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:37 PM
Feb 2019

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
95. I LOVE HARRIS! But we need votes in the US Senate; Why not do a Dr. Howard Dean thing?
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 04:04 AM
Feb 2019

Just saying, the DNC needs votes in the US Senate...

What about "Pocahontas" Can you spell "Teflon Don?" aka [organized crime] and tweet online innuendo? Can you "'real'y tweet?" No revenge, just facts about obvious, documented, online and appointment to important positions (Attorney General appointments) in attempts to ...

question everything

(47,263 posts)
119. I agree. We have four members of the Judiciary committee running
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 02:27 AM
Feb 2019

I think that a governor is always the better choice.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
3. YAY!
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:37 PM
Feb 2019

stonecutter357

(12,682 posts)
4. K&R
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:38 PM
Feb 2019

bearsfootball516

(6,369 posts)
5. Awesome job!
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:38 PM
Feb 2019
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
6. Thanks, Skinner. As late as last week, I'd thought it would be jumping the gun
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:38 PM
Feb 2019

but as things stand this week, the Primaries group comes just in the nick of time.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,063 posts)
7. Why does "You asked for it" almost sound taunting?
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:39 PM
Feb 2019

Hope it's not too heated and people can be respectful.

DFW

(54,047 posts)
52. I certainly didn't ask for it.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:57 PM
Feb 2019

But I have nothing against its being there.

bhikkhu

(10,708 posts)
81. "Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more!"
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 09:43 PM
Feb 2019

...I'd have found a place to put that in myself. After the last few, it might be most appropriate (though I have some innocent hope that things will remain civil this time).

question everything

(47,263 posts)
120. Some of us have. Repeatedly.
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 02:30 AM
Feb 2019

Actually I asked for a separate GD politics which would have been mostly Trump, and the regular GD for, say, the fires and hurricanes, etc.

Politicub

(12,163 posts)
8. Love the new approach
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:40 PM
Feb 2019

lpbk2713

(42,696 posts)
9. I hope it catches on.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:42 PM
Feb 2019



Old habits are hard to break.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
10. Thanks!
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:42 PM
Feb 2019

I look forward to choosing to hang around during the primaries!

Love you guys!

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
11. Nice!
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:44 PM
Feb 2019

Thanks mods!

msongs

(67,193 posts)
12. great now if there was a forum for all twitter posts with no content... nt
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:45 PM
Feb 2019

PatrickforO

(14,514 posts)
91. Yes I dislike those too.
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 12:21 AM
Feb 2019

As to this post, I like what Skinner says about every single potential candidate being better than Trump. We just have to say NO to the circular firing squad gig...



Or the Sisyphus gig...

theaocp

(4,223 posts)
13. I'm guessing many either ignored or will ignore the Final Thought.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:45 PM
Feb 2019

There's too much investment in bashing other candidates, and they just got their own pool to pee in. I will not be wading in there. Icky.

True Dough

(17,090 posts)
25. Then let them face the consequences
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:58 PM
Feb 2019

I plan to be on my best behavior!

uponit7771

(90,225 posts)
14. NICE !!! So does talking about the primaries also mean talking about the candidates? When will ...
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:45 PM
Feb 2019

... GD be scrubbed of post that are toxic?

thx in advance

demmiblue

(36,742 posts)
15. Thank you (and I appreciate your final thought).
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:46 PM
Feb 2019

DinahMoeHum

(21,737 posts)
16. Thanks, guys.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:46 PM
Feb 2019

And thanks for the option of trashing the forum if I don't feel like reading through those catfights until 2020.

As a Democratic district leader in my neck of the woods, I have more important things to work on in 2019, such as helping to consolidate and confirm the gains made in 2017 and 2018 among our candidates-now-legislators.

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
96. true: Democrats need prosecution for Trump-treason
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 04:36 AM
Feb 2019

Bettie

(15,995 posts)
17. THANK YOU!!!!
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:47 PM
Feb 2019

Seriously, that will make GD WAY easier to read!

Maxheader

(4,366 posts)
18. Please waive the rule on trashing democrats...
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:48 PM
Feb 2019

Its a primary for crying out loud..There will be personal favs that many
will be very passionate about..A few zingers, especially at berny, will add
spice to the proceedings....

IMHO....

SergeStorms

(18,880 posts)
72. Bernie isn't a Democrat.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:33 PM
Feb 2019
I just had to get one last jab in before "I declare".

Maxheader

(4,366 posts)
75. Good job!
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 08:04 PM
Feb 2019

My bad....berny is an indy...

Ms. Toad

(33,915 posts)
84. For purposes of DU, he is.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:01 PM
Feb 2019

Review Skinner's list of candidate options.

BumRushDaShow

(127,262 posts)
19. Oh THANK the makers of DU
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:48 PM
Feb 2019
 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
20. Excellent timing
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:50 PM
Feb 2019

Seems earlier than past cycles but that is warranted this time, given the person in office

LiberalLovinLug

(14,153 posts)
21. Great!
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:53 PM
Feb 2019

I do wonder if there will be any leeway on other forums for a mention of the primaries or who is running etc...Because I think it will be damn difficult to even discuss topics without a slip once in awhile about "this candidate supports that...." or "That's why I can't support this candidate" etc... I'm just not sure how this is going to work but I'm game to try.

Without a doubt any of our candidates would be miles ahead of any Republican, even if Trump is gone and its another R. Personally, I think two or more can have a robust discussion and disagreement about a candidate, even if one of them takes it worse than the other. Sometimes I think this leads to the one feeling put upon to alert the other one. And sometimes they get enough members that share their point of view on the jury to quash the one they were debating. So hopefully this new forum will allow deeper debating.

livetohike

(22,084 posts)
22. Thanks Skinner, EarlG and Elad! You guys are the best!
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:56 PM
Feb 2019

Renew Deal

(81,801 posts)
23. Thanks
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:56 PM
Feb 2019

CatWoman

(79,283 posts)
24. LOL
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:56 PM
Feb 2019

Like I'm going in there.

Right.

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
123. I try to steer clear of it too...
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 06:21 PM
Feb 2019

While it's nice to hope it will be better this time, I'm not holding my breath.

C Moon

(12,188 posts)
26. Great idea! Hopefully, this will include moving "the latest polls" into that category, as well.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:59 PM
Feb 2019

True Dough

(17,090 posts)
27. This is a wise move
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:00 PM
Feb 2019

I'm glad LBN and GD won't be cluttered with bickering over primary candidates. We can wade into that designated "mosh pit" if we feel like dancing.

Fantastic!

bearsfootball516

(6,369 posts)
28. One suggestion, would be interesting to see a raw total next to each candidate percentage.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:00 PM
Feb 2019

After a while, it would give a good look to how many people regularly post here. That's something I've always wondered.

ornotna

(10,763 posts)
29. Hallelujah!
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:02 PM
Feb 2019


Maeve

(42,223 posts)
30. Question--will the current primary threads in GD be allowed to go on?
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:09 PM
Feb 2019

With the idea that they will gradually sink as folks migrate to the new forum?

And I think your timing is wonderful--thanks, Guys!

Skinner

(63,645 posts)
31. We'll probably lock them shortly. (nt)
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:09 PM
Feb 2019

GeorgeGist

(25,294 posts)
32. Good.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:12 PM
Feb 2019

Too early for me but enjoy.

pwb

(11,204 posts)
33. k
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:12 PM
Feb 2019

.

TygrBright

(20,733 posts)
34. THANK YOU!!!
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:14 PM
Feb 2019

Well done, way to go, blessings on you all.

I wish you the best possible success at identifying and neutralizing GRU trolls and bots, right up through November 3rd, 2020.

gratefully,
Bright

yardwork

(61,408 posts)
35. Just in time. Thanks, dudes!
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:16 PM
Feb 2019

RKP5637

(67,030 posts)
36. Wow!!! Incredible!!!Thanks!!!
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:18 PM
Feb 2019

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,483 posts)
37. Thanks! We appreciate your hard work. Glad to hear GD and LBN will stay clean....
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:18 PM
Feb 2019

so important news items won't be buried or not even noticed.

.............. ............ ...........

KPN

(15,585 posts)
38. Thank you and well done!
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:26 PM
Feb 2019

safeinOhio

(32,524 posts)
39. Thank you.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:29 PM
Feb 2019

Blocked those threads and had an instant drop in pulse and BP.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
40. Aaaaannnd....we're OFF to the races!!! Yee-ha!
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:30 PM
Feb 2019

Should be some spirited discussions. But hopefully about issues and content, and not ugly and mean and personal.

nolabear

(41,915 posts)
41. Ever thought of running for office?
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:31 PM
Feb 2019

You get things done!

TygrBright

(20,733 posts)
42. It's very gracious of you to include "Sanders" among the Democrats.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:34 PM
Feb 2019

And he does caucus and mostly vote with us, so that's okay.

But will the "no trashing Democrats" rule also apply to him?

I don't care either way since I won't be entering those discussions, but it's probably as well to be explicit about that, especially for the benefit of those with a quick "alert" finger.

helpfully,
Bright

Skinner

(63,645 posts)
43. The rules have been explicit on this issue for two and a half years.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:35 PM
Feb 2019

TygrBright

(20,733 posts)
46. Excellent, thanks. Might not come amiss to note in a FAQ sticky for the forum itself, though.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:43 PM
Feb 2019

Just sayin'...

Of COURSE everyone thoroughly reads all the Terms of Service before hitting the "alert" button in the hat of the moment, but redundancy does help with comprehension.

Also, starting a FAQ sticky now might come in useful. Other issues that appear frequently can be settled there, although it may not happen at all that someone(s) will manage to come up with ways to rattle the cage. Highly unlikely, but again, never hurts to be prepared.

busybodily,
Bright

Liberty Belle

(9,528 posts)
59. He is running as a Democrat and could win the Dem nomination,
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 05:23 PM
Feb 2019

so why wouldn't the rule apply to him, to?

If people don't like that he wasn't a Democrat between elections they can vote for another candidate. But trashing him is risky because he is still popular and could win the nomination.

It's easy enough to just post why you believe another candidate may be better positioned to beat Trump, or has views on issues that you prefer, without attacking any candidate running in the Democratic primary.

hlthe2b

(101,701 posts)
45. What about posting in the state forums? Some potential candidates will have implications
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:43 PM
Feb 2019

for Senatorial challenges--not to mention other down-ballot consequences. (e.g., if Hickenlooper announces for President, rather than running to challenge Corey Gardner for the Senate)

Obviously, each state's own primary will have a lot of cross-over issues.

Skinner

(63,645 posts)
48. I tend to think that would be fine.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:44 PM
Feb 2019

But I reserve the right to change my mind if it is disruptive.

littlemissmartypants

(22,417 posts)
79. Thank you. nt
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 09:03 PM
Feb 2019

NRaleighLiberal

(59,940 posts)
47. Great stuff...thx!
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:43 PM
Feb 2019

Power 2 the People

(2,437 posts)
49. Great idea!
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:44 PM
Feb 2019

Will definitely make us more unified when we need it the most.

 
50. Are we allowed to . . .
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:45 PM
Feb 2019

If we post to the Democratic Primary forum, are we permitted to criticize Bernie?

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
71. Skinner answered that with a link to this ...
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:17 PM
Feb 2019
Don't bash Democratic public figures
Do not post disrespectful nicknames, insults, or highly inflammatory attacks against any Democratic public figures. Do not post anything that could be construed as bashing, trashing, undermining, or depressing turnout for any Democratic general election candidate, and do not compare any Democratic general election candidate unfavorably to their general election opponent(s).

Why we have this rule: Our forum members support and admire a wide variety of Democratic politicians and public figures. Constructive criticism is always welcome, but our members don't expect to see Democrats viciously denigrated on this website. This rule also applies to Independents who align themselves with Democrats (eg: Bernie Sanders).

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=termsofservice

DFW

(54,047 posts)
51. The first primaries are nearly year away.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:56 PM
Feb 2019

I think I can wait that long.

But if means the continuous barrage of "Bernie did this and Bernie did that" posts are now destined for that forum, I'm all for its being there ASAP.

oasis

(49,150 posts)
54. Skinner gets an A+ for this.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:59 PM
Feb 2019

applegrove

(118,006 posts)
55. Brilliant!
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 05:02 PM
Feb 2019

mopinko

(69,803 posts)
56. dang. you guys are geniuses.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 05:04 PM
Feb 2019

srsly.
i have watched you guys wrestle w this circus all these years. i have felt you pain at the behavior of the anonymous human animal.
i share your cynicism.

but you have done a pretty good job of it from the get go, and made it better in ways that are fair, democratic, and decent.
when shit didnt work, you werent afraid to ditch it. then you kept trying.

i think this is a great shot at a better world here.

many, many thanks.

i hope our cynicism will not be rewarded.

Kali

(54,990 posts)
57. very interesting how you have set it up
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 05:18 PM
Feb 2019

Liberty Belle

(9,528 posts)
58. Agreed. Remember, if you trash Bernie or Kamala or anyone and they wind up as the nominee,
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 05:20 PM
Feb 2019

Your criticisms will help Trump and Putin. Don't write their campaign ads for them.

We should all limit our comments to why we think a particular candidate is the strongest or best, not run down the others.

None of us have a crystal ball. Someone who is not our preferred candidate may wind up as the nominee.

All of them are far better than Trump or any other Republican (should some maverick challenge Trump).

Our strength is in unity. Now is the time to set aside past differences from the last campaign and be grateful we have so many strong, impassioned candidates out there firing up voters.

Evolve Dammit

(16,632 posts)
77. Agree 100%; save the vitriole for the opposing candidate come 2020. Don't be played.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 08:34 PM
Feb 2019

wiley

(2,921 posts)
87. If Bernie ends up as he nominee we get Trump for 4 more years
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:12 PM
Feb 2019

And deserve it if we are that stupid.

MH1

(17,537 posts)
60. Nicely done, DU team.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 05:29 PM
Feb 2019

I like the idea of the "who I support" tag at the bottom of the posts in the Primaries forum.

Originally I was going to stay with "Undecided" but realized this could have a polling function so since I do have a preference among the names listed, I declared it. But after that preference I am undecided.

Now if you could figure out a ranked-choice logic for this ...

ffr

(22,644 posts)
61. Thank you DU Admins!
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 05:35 PM
Feb 2019

That'll unclutter a lot of the congestion out of the GD.

ailsagirl

(22,837 posts)
62. Thank you Skinner, EarlG, and Elad!!
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 05:54 PM
Feb 2019

You guys ROCK

KayF

(1,345 posts)
64. how about not allowing Twitter posts?
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 06:04 PM
Feb 2019

since that is the way various bad actors are messing with us.

Facebook too, though I don't see people posting from Facebook here very much.

LAS14

(13,749 posts)
65. Good thinking, Skinner! Thanks! nt
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 06:13 PM
Feb 2019

klook

(12,134 posts)
66. Great!
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 06:17 PM
Feb 2019

Well reasoned and a good plan. I appreciate your thoughtful analysis. Looking forward to the New Improved DU.

P.S. Will there also be a forum dedicated to fried chicken preparation?

MarcA

(2,195 posts)
67. Good Idea.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 06:26 PM
Feb 2019

Plenty of time for things to happen and research to be done. Earlier this month
while doing my taxes I realized that I would be doing them again for next year
Before the Iowa Caucuses.

Hekate

(90,189 posts)
68. Just in time. Hallelujah. nt
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 06:31 PM
Feb 2019

IronLionZion

(45,250 posts)
69. Well played. This is a great way to do it
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 06:38 PM
Feb 2019

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
70. An exciting idea!
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:09 PM
Feb 2019

sueh

(1,818 posts)
73. Thank you, Skinner!
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:41 PM
Feb 2019


IluvPitties

(3,181 posts)
74. ¡Gracias, Skinner!
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:44 PM
Feb 2019

yuiyoshida

(41,759 posts)
76. yay! Arigatou!
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 08:26 PM
Feb 2019

私たちにいい!よし!

Wednesdays

(17,244 posts)
78. Awesome! Thanks!
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 08:41 PM
Feb 2019

littlemissmartypants

(22,417 posts)
80. Thanks again y'all, for all of your good work. ❤ nt
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 09:06 PM
Feb 2019

LAS14

(13,749 posts)
82. Is there any way to make the poll portraits line up left to right?
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 09:53 PM
Feb 2019

It's getting annoying to have to scroll down every time I refresh the forum.

But thanks for the new organization. It makes lots of sense.

Skinner

(63,645 posts)
83. They are supposed to show left to right.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:00 PM
Feb 2019

Maybe shift-refresh the page and see if it resets the layout.

LAS14

(13,749 posts)
88. Also, the names don't show next...
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:17 PM
Feb 2019

… to the pictures in the "signature" in Chrome, but they do in Edge.

LAS14

(13,749 posts)
86. Huh. It works as you say in Edge. The problem is in...
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:11 PM
Feb 2019

...Chrome, running in Windows 10. Thanks for the prompt response.

Skinner

(63,645 posts)
89. I'm using Chrome on Windows 10, and it is working.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:48 PM
Feb 2019

I think you need to reload the stylesheet. Holding the shift key and clicking the refresh button on your browser should fix it.

LAS14

(13,749 posts)
100. Thanks! That worked. Who knew...
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 01:07 PM
Feb 2019

wiley

(2,921 posts)
85. Anybody but Bernie
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:10 PM
Feb 2019

Until that’s an option I’m not voting.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,009 posts)
90. Wonderful! - I've already trashed it!
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:39 PM
Feb 2019

But I'm glad it's there, and I'm sure I'll miss some good posts and information. But based on the 2016 experience - I'll just wait outside.

argyl

(3,064 posts)
92. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 12:24 AM
Feb 2019

I've trashed several threads with over 100, 200,even 300 replies. If I want to wade in on any others like them I'll know where they are.

calimary

(80,693 posts)
93. Thanks, Admins!
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 12:56 AM
Feb 2019

I will keep this page open. I’m good at a few things but technical stuff sometimes throws me.

Thanks for this, and for the ton of work, thought, attention, and care that clearly went into this.



Steven Maurer

(455 posts)
94. Thank You. Can there ever be a "ranked choice" option?
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 01:17 AM
Feb 2019

I have a #1 choice but also handful of really close #2s that would be equally as good.

I was hoping there would be a way to indicate that.

eppur_se_muova

(36,227 posts)
97. Can there be a "whoever is the Democratic nominee" option ?
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 10:05 AM
Feb 2019

I think there are some people here who would prefer to see that, rather than "undecided".

blue cat

(2,415 posts)
98. Eric Stalwell
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 10:20 AM
Feb 2019

Not on the list.

Skinner

(63,645 posts)
99. If you were to vote in a presidential primary today, would you vote for Eric Stalwell?
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 11:32 AM
Feb 2019

If so then we will add him to the list so you can select him as your preference.

klook

(12,134 posts)
101. Uh, that would be Swalwell.
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 01:35 PM
Feb 2019

Always good to know your candidate's name before jumping on the bandwagon!

https://swalwell.house.gov/

FailureToCommunicate

(13,988 posts)
102. Thanks! May DU stay civil, may the hackers and trolls be few, and may the best candidate win!
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 02:49 PM
Feb 2019

MH1

(17,537 posts)
104. QUESTION re: close down the existing candidate supporter groups
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 05:37 PM
Feb 2019

So there is a post in the Barack Obama group (the BOG) that they expect that group to be closed.

Is that true? If so, why? Obama is clearly not a candidate for 2020.

Also does that mean other individual Democrats' groups - e.g. Kerry, Gore, O'Malley - will be closed as well? I realize some of these aren't getting a ton of posts lately but still don't think they should be closed due to the 2020 primaries.

Other than that I think it is a good idea, for the 2020 candidates. I'm looking forward to the "changes" that the new groups will have.

Oh and you might want to add, "May the odds be ever in your favor!"

Skinner

(63,645 posts)
105. I think we are not shutting down the Barack Obama group.
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 06:36 PM
Feb 2019

We might change the name to distinguish it from the candidate groups.

MH1

(17,537 posts)
107. Thanks. What about others, like Kerry, O'Malley? nt
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 07:28 PM
Feb 2019

Skinner

(63,645 posts)
108. Not sure. (nt)
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 09:05 PM
Feb 2019

BooScout

(10,406 posts)
111. What about The Hillary Group?
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 09:31 AM
Feb 2019

?

Skinner

(63,645 posts)
112. Not sure. (nt)
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 09:57 AM
Feb 2019

question everything

(47,263 posts)
114. Please do not close the Hillary group
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 01:35 PM
Feb 2019

She is still active and many of us go there to cheer her.

Also, the archives from the 2016 is a trove of information relevant to this cycle.

Thank you.

sheshe2

(83,319 posts)
117. + infinity, question everything!
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 08:55 PM
Feb 2019

Cha

(295,899 posts)
116. Yes, Please Leave Hillary's Group
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 07:27 PM
Feb 2019

open, Skinner.. Thank You!

Sparkly

(24,141 posts)
126. I would like to echo the requests
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 09:05 PM
Mar 2019

to keep the Hillary Clinton forum open, please.

mahina

(17,502 posts)
106. I'm thankful. Good idea. It was getting hard,
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 06:51 PM
Feb 2019

and this solution helped.

romainetarra

(51 posts)
109. All Candidates are good enough
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 01:31 AM
Feb 2019

I promise Skinner, EarlG, and Elad to go into this with an open mind and of course realize all are better than the current sitting duck.

stevesinpa

(143 posts)
110. half a month short of a year before the Iowa caucuses
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 02:36 AM
Feb 2019

is not "passed time" for the election process to begin. our presidential campaigns are already WAY too long. we need to shorten the entire process, so that our elected officials can do their jobs instead of campaigning for another office.
in many countries, campaigning is limited to several months, let the work that our elected officials do be their campaign until it is much closer to Iowa and the actual elections.
by shortening the campaigning season, it will also mean candidates will not need as much money, in essence potentially limiting the need to beg for contributions.
this would also stop people from being inundated with campaign commercials, mailings, postings, and all else that goes with campaigns that turn people into apathetic voters/nonvoters just wishing the process would be over and done with. after so long, people tune out the endless campaigning.

Skinner

(63,645 posts)
113. Those first two sentences are a joke.
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 10:00 AM
Feb 2019

Obviously it's ridiculous that it's necessary to open the primaries forum a year before the Iowa Caucuses. But the primary campaign has already begun so DU needs a primaries forum.

Beringia

(4,313 posts)
115. Thank you for the forum and I love the way people declare who they like
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 06:01 PM
Feb 2019

apkhgp

(1,068 posts)
118. Whatever candidates go through this campaign
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 10:40 PM
Feb 2019

We go into it making sure it is not undermined by the RNC, WIKILEAKS, The FBI, and the Russians. We can not survive another four years of another Right Wing idiot in OUR White House.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
121. Could I post in candidate supporters forums?
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 08:50 AM
Feb 2019

And skip the GDP part for like you said toxic behavior.

I have a top 4 at the moment Sanders, Warren, Harris, or Gillibrand.

I like the Sanders & also visit the Warren forum I hope it stays open until the new forums open up. I'm worried about changes to the candidate forums.

question everything

(47,263 posts)
124. What about the states groups?
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 09:24 PM
Mar 2019

For example, if I find an interesting story about Peter Buttigieg, will it be OK to post on the Indiana Group?

Justice

(7,182 posts)
127. In 2016, asked for this multiple times but it was never done - why? why now?
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 02:02 PM
Apr 2019

I repeatedly asked for this in 2016 but DU never responded or set it up. Why? It was incredibly confusing because everything about the primary was in the general forum.

Now, it is set up more than a year out. Why?

Disappointed then. It's fine now but curious about the double standard.

progree

(10,864 posts)
128. Have the rules changed to one mention per state primary comtest?
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 05:33 AM
Mar 2020

Last edited Thu Mar 5, 2020, 10:47 PM - Edit history (1)

Here are a few examples in LBN that violate your rules, unless I'm missing something. If there are new rules, please post them so that we don't waste our time calling out violations (( PS: restricting Democratic Primaries posting to Democratic Primaries or candidate support groups seems like a wonderful wonderful rule )) Thank you.

The Latest: Sanders wins Democratic primary in California https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142440956
Biden defeats Warren in her home state of Massachusetts https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142440953
The Latest: Sanders wins Democratic primary in Utah https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142440948
Biden defeats Sanders in Minnesota Super Tuesday race https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142440945
The Latest: Biden wins Democratic primary in Arkansas https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142440933
Super Tuesday tally: Biden wins 5 states, Sanders takes 2 https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142440923

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