Finally, a mainstream article about poor white Trump lovers that gets it right....

[RhodeIslandOne]

.....as to what this is all really about. With no bullshit coverup nicety or omitting the lines to save people embarrassment.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/08/donald-trump-johnstown-pennsylvania-supporters-215800

Schilling looked at her husband, Dave McCabe, who’s 67 and a retired high school basketball coach. She nodded at me. “Tell him,” she said to McCabe, “what you said the NFL is …”

McCabe looked momentarily wary. He laughed a little. “I don’t remember saying that,” he said unconvincingly.

Schilling was having none of it. “You’re the one that told me, liar,” she said.

She looked at me.

The NFL?

“N***ers for life,” Schilling said.

“For life,” McCabe added.

[irisblue]

1. Well worth the read

scary, depressing fact that racist misognyists aren't learning.

[snooper2]

13. Yeah, but all you really need to read are the last couple sentences

uneducated poor pissed off trash that we should never expect to get votes from

[YoungDemCA]

65. No, it's not worth the read.

These takes are dime-a-dozen, and they are inevitably classist, ignorant, misleading trash.

[irisblue]

80. Sorry, but I disagree. No disrespect, just a different POV. YMMV

[renate]

81. well, it's worth the read to me

The only Trump supporter I know is a Trump supporter because he's rich.

This article isn't about poll numbers or percentages, it's about the actual words coming out of the actual mouths of actual Trump voters. Is it classist or misleading to quote them? I think it's really useful to know what is going on in the minds of Trump voters on the other end of the spectrum, if only because it's just such convincing evidence that it simply isn't worthwhile to try to sway them with facts. I'm honestly not trying to be snotty when I say that... they themselves say that information would never persuade them away from him.

It's so sad that these folks are among people who need Democratic policies the most, yet they dig in their heels in opposition. It's tragic that in a great and rich country like this one, there is so much economic despair. But if they're offered information that might help them, and they just keep refusing it, it's time to switch gears and to try to motivate them with emotional appeals rather than logical ones. That's useful to know, which is why I think this is well worth the read.

[obamanut2012]

106. not classist at all

misleading, or trash

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. These people are unreachable, it seems.

The fact that Trump hasn't delivered anything for them and isn't likely to doesn't bother them. It's all emotional and visceral: It's all about anger and resentment and victimhood - he hates the same people they hate and that's all that matters. Democrats will have to persuade independents and nonvoters because most of these Trumplings are hopeless cases.

[RKP5637]

3. There have been enough brain studies now to show some are predisposed to this

behavior from birth. Sometimes it remains latent, but Trump has energized that portion of their brains wherein others would have a more balanced perspective on life and emotions.

[byronius]

43. Lizard brain programming from three million years ago is a curse we carry into the future.

The British have done extensive studies on genetic predisposition for political leaning -- conservatives tend to be fearful and paralyzed by stress, liberals the opposite.

Darwin's just not moving fast enough to keep up with the modern Technological Asymptote.

[RKP5637]

82. And really for most of them pointless to try to change their minds. Often, they just dig in deeper.

[Duppers]

94. I think it's more about culturally induced personality disorders.

That has been my experience and observation with so many of them.

If they had grown up with different parents in a different location with more opportunities to build their self-esteem, they would be very different.

Besides, racism is a taught value.

Perhaps the rich psychopaths are a different story? Not all rich are assholes, just most of them have always placed enriching themselves above people.

[RKP5637]

99. This is a very good observation. Yes, many have been conditioned to be the way they are and

in a different environment it would not have materialized IMO. Plus, they reinforce each other and Fox News is often one of the glues that hold their line of reasoning together. It's very sad and also bad for the future of the US. Also, hatred sells well, for example, AKA, Alex Jones and others. All of it is a bad combination.

[Duppers]

103. Thank you.

[Garrett78]

6. The vast majority of "independents" are already very partisan.

But getting more nonvoters, particularly young people, to vote is crucial. Even a slight bump in turnout could make a huge difference.

[MountCleaners]

9. The thing that makes them most angry is the NFL!

Like Trump can do anything about that. The same with these people who answered polls saying that "political correctness" is the biggest problem today.

Scary.

[irisblue]

29. He will keep up the rage tweets

He will want to pump up his base when he gets back. They will eat it up.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

32. That's pure racism, there.

"How dare those n*****s disrespect OUR flag?" I don't know how you fight something like that. It's at the core of Trump's base support.

[luvtheGWN]

55. Some people have suggested that their "ire"

sprang from Obama's two terms. A decidedly white Republican from Illinois, just prior to the 2008 campaign, had no compunction about stating on a discussion board I participated in that there was "just no way that n****r should be allowed in our "White" House. I was astounded then by this virulence, and it's made me think that this is at the very root of Trump's success. He told them (especially when he started the whole birther issue) that it was perfectly okay to hate people of colour, and most especially their own President. He will continue to relate to them in the very same way -- since he has no conscience whatsoever -- and they are too bigoted and stupid to ever admit that he has manipulated them to death and legitimized (in their eyes) their own thoughts and behaviour.
Makes me want to cry every time I think about it......

[Duppers]

95. I agree: it's mainly about Racism.

They are hopelessly sick people.

[muntrv]

66. From the article "They haven't moved the goal posts. They eliminated them."

Sums it up.

[BonnieJW]

73. No, you just THINK he hates the people tumpers hate

Trumpers think Trump hates the blacks, Latinos, dems. He's actually indifferent. His attitude is this: if I say I hate black people, will you vote for me? If I say I don't believe in climate change, will you vote for me? If I say I hate all the people and things you hate, will you vote for me? I can be anything you want me to be; I can think any way you want me to think; I can hate all the things and people you want me to hate, if you'll just vote for me. He really doesn't care one way or the other because he'll say anything or do anything to get what he wants. Do you really think there is enough passion in this apathetic man to produce an emotion as big as hate?

But now Meuller is closing in and he will produce a huge emotion - fear. Because Meuller doesn't care what Trump thinks or feels or hates; he only cares about what Trump did and the lies he told. No where to hide.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

91. There's ample evidence that Trump is, in fact, racist.

He and his father got sued years ago for housing discrimination, and he's made racist statements under various circumstances long before he showed any interest in running for president. It's probably true that racism is only a secondary motivation for him - he is primarily motivated by ego and greed - but he's demonstrated his low opinion of black people, Jews and other minorities for years. So it was easy for him to turn his basic animosity toward minorities into campaign positions that would appeal to racist voters.

[Duppers]

96. Yes, Trump's racism has definitely been proven.

[Tatiana]

100. Charles Pierce (and I) agree with you.

These people are not reachable. I wish they were. There’s no point in getting angry about it anymore. There’s also no point in wondering why they feel the way they do, why they fell for the snake oil, and why they consistently vote against their own interests, or don’t vote at all. Reading what they told Kruse about where they are a year after voting for Trump is like listening to someone in the throes of a hangover talk about a bar fight they were in the night before.

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a13452453/trump-supporters-despair/

[MariaCSR]

4. thanks

[brewens]

5. I have a live one on FB. He's used the "N" word referring to Obama, called me a

PC fairy, then claimed it was people going to Jews like Weinstein to get their movies made that was the problem.

They are getting bolder. I didn't report or remove any of my friends FB posts. Better to leave those there for all our other friends to see. He's calling the wrong guy a fairly. I could give a flying rats assed fuck if anyone thinks I'm gay! LOL

[MariaCSR]

7. WOOOOW, these people are stupid

I mean, PAINFULLY stupid.

[Fred Sanders]

16. Racist. Proudly and painfully racist and to me such folks are pure evil.

[MountCleaners]

8. Thank you for posting this!

This is exactly what they are. People need to quit feeling sorry for them and spend more energy motivating our own people. All we can do is expose them for what they really are.

I posted this article too, which is why I have a "self-delete" in GD, because I didn't see your post. I don't cry much, but the ugliness of their sentiments brought me to tears. Why should people so full of hate feel entitled to make a living at all?

[Neema]

37. Amen. Quit feeling sorry for them, quit trying to change their minds and quit wasting time.

We're wasting our time and energy trying to get through to people who are that stuck in their own misery. They've had a year to see that 45 has no intention of coming through with any of his promises to help them, and they refuse. Which tells me that, despite their claims to the contrary, they're miserable bigots who really voted for him because he's a miserable bigot too.

[The Polack MSgt]

10. The secret that everyone kept last year

Including the press, was that it was never EVER about his promises.

Everyone knew that everything he said was all bullshit from day one.

Except for the overarching hatred for brown people. That was and is genuine and it's why his fans will always love him

He only made those promises to provide cover for the dog whistles he was blasting to his racist followers

[workinclasszero]

51. Yes the MSM gave these hateful racist bastards cover

and mainstreamed their hate.

[sharp_stick]

11. The thing that really pisses me off

is these are the people that are really taking from the Federal government. The Social Security building is the busiest in town. If Trump and his cronies really get their way these morons can kiss that goodbye PDQ.

[Delphinus]

87. When reading that,

I realize I don't want my taxes going to support them.

And then I don't like myself.

It seems there will be no way of turning their hearts to enlightenment ...

[el_bryanto]

12. That is a pretty chilling article

I don't know what we should do; more and more it seems like balkinization is probably the best long term solution. I'd have to move (I live in Florida which is likely to get redder as time goes on) - but how can you actually share a country with that sort of mentality long term? What if Trump wants to declare martial law; how many of that type of republican would oppose it?

I don't know - the other argument is that some democrats as well as some non-white folk live in almost every area - and it's unlikely their lives will get better if we write those parts of the nation off. It's also unlikely that we really have the votes to win in the south or most of the midwest or the rocky mountains.

Bryant

[MarvinGardens]

49. We can win in the South.

Georgia Democrats strung together improbable victories on Tuesday night, emboldening partisans who hope their strong performance is a prelude to next year’s statewide vote – and the beginning of a forceful rebuke of President Donald Trump.

Democratic newcomers flipped two state House seats in northeast Georgia considered so conservative that the party hasn’t even contested them since the lines were redrawn in 2012. And Democrats captured an Atlanta-based state Senate district long held by a Republican, breaking the GOP super-majority in the chamber.

http://politics.blog.myajc.com/2017/11/07/a-democratic-wave-sends-a-ripple-through-georgia-politics/

[bearsfootball516]

53. You ask how we can share the country long term with people who have that mentality

I'm not sure we'll have to. The country's demographics are shifting blue, it just happens very, very slowly. People under 40 vote overwhelmingly blue. So do the growing minorities.

Most of the people who vote Republican are 50 and older. It's crude, but they're dying out and being replaced by a much younger, bluer, demographic.

[d_r]

69. Go look at pictures

Of the little rock nine. Or the Selma March. Or 1968. We've always had them.

[superpatriotman]

14. It isn't just poor .45 supporters

nt

[MountCleaners]

25. How poor is a restaurant owner or a...

high school basketball coach. These people aren't miners or steelworkers, who aren't "poor" anyway if they have jobs.

I was reading the article and noticing that he was talking to people who have jobs and are probably pretty smug about it.

[Neema]

39. The business owners are probably griping about having to pay their employees

living wages and treat them like humans.

[GusBob]

15. another "Hillbilly Eligy" they should call it "Hillbilly Eulogy"

I kinda tired of reading what these losers think. They represent the dying past of rural America. Too bad, so sad.

What they do not represent is the future or anything positive at all about our country.

They all, every last one of them, should have spent more time in school. Now I am hearing they are refusing retraining

'cuz you cant fix stupid, they are doomed. They want to blame POC or drugs. The problem is in the mirror

[bearsfootball516]

17. This line is incredibly telling

“I asked Schilling what would happen if the next three years go the way the last one has.

“I’m not going to blame him,” Schilling said. “Absolutely not.”

Is there anything that could change her mind about Trump?

“Nope,” she said.”


There you have it, the immovable base somewhere in the upper 20s of his approval rating. There’s no reasoning with them, no helping them understand how much Trump’s policies are hurting them. There’s nothing that can be done.

They’re just flat out stupid.

[Hortensis]

18. NO. There's a lot more to conservative issues than this.

Villifying everyone who disagrees politically as a rabid racist is a recipe for disaster. There are a whole lot of them, and some are reasonably and righteously offended at this kind of nasty political bigotry.

We can never be a great nation again until we rebuild a rational, decent, cooperative center that can keep the wings in line.

Pull it in.

[RhodeIslandOne]

19. These are rabid Trump supporters

They openly admit they know nothing of policy nor care.

What does that have anything to do with you talking about "reasonable conservatives" and their issues???

[Hortensis]

20. Read what I said. Political bigotry is as real as racial.

Some just operate under the misapprehension that it's respectable. It's not.

[HughBeaumont]

35. OK, say you're a reasonable conservative.

Name ONE good reason to elect Donald Trump and Mike Pence President and Vice President of the United States of America.

ONE.

[Coventina]

77. *crickets*

Interesting how you don't get a response.....

[YoungDemCA]

58. +1

[The Polack MSgt]

71. I am not villifying every one who disagrees with me politically...

I am calling racists racist.

I have consistently called all Trump supporters racist because they support racism, obviously you disagree.

Well, even if that standard is too stringent for you - Please explain the solid 33% approval and the 70+% of Republicans who would vote for him again.

He has done nothing he promised and has in fact been attempting to break his biggest campaign pledges.

"Reasonably and righteously" offended by being called racist?

Look, I know that the desire to stand up and recite the "not all white people" rhetoric is really strong but you should avoid doing that in this case.

Yes all Trumpsters are racist. If they were just tolerant of racism and wanted the things (well the other things in addition to the racism) they would have abandoned him when his agenda was shown to be lies.

They DID NOT DO THAT.

[HughBeaumont]

75. Also, what does the one "wing" want that is so awful as opposed to the other wing?

At least a multi-payer health system? Necessity costs to be reined in, or at least raise the minimum wage to match it? College that doesn't cost 1/2 to 3/4 a mortgage? A basic income for the permanently displaced?

You're trying to find a horseshoe where there is none.

[Blue_Tires]

21. Like I said the other 5379 times...

Can we please have a permanent moratorium on these "stories" where a reporter goes into deep red Trump country and lets the local yokels do their Archie Bunker impression on the record? I mean, the same story has been written every week since January and for the most part it never, ever changes.

[RhodeIslandOne]

24. The difference is this time they didn't edit out the real dirty, slimy stuff

Every other article refuses to print the slurs and the ignorance and tries to paint them as "regular joes and jills" baking cookies for the grandkids and "getting up every day to work like my dad and granddad did".

They are not. They are fucking bigots.

How many editors and writers decided previous to this in all those other articles that no one "needed to read" granny call Obama the n-word?

[GusBob]

33. I agree with you, but this article is a follow up

The author went back a revisted folks from a year ago that he or she had met before

which goes with your point in 2 ways....nothing in the town changed despite DTs election ( maybe an uptick in mine jobs, but more stores and restaurants shuttered) yet the still fawn over DT

my favorite part is where the guy says 'at least he doesn't golf every weekend' when the author points out he actually does golf more than Obama, the guy had no idea

[Blue_Tires]

36. Everything that dude said was code for "Well at least Trump isn't black"

[Neema]

46. THIS.

Because even when the author said, well actually Trump golfs a lot more, the guy basically just shrugged. Yeah, I'm sure it's about golf in your mind and not about the fact that you've bought into the idiotic racist notion that blacks are lazy. I mean, WHO in their right mind would ever mistake Barack Obama for someone who sleeps until noon every day? Whatever you think about his policies or whatever, that's just clearly nonsense. You could show a photo of President Obama and a photo of 45 to someone who just woke up from a 25 year coma, ask them which person looks like they sleep until noon and I guarantee they would choose 45.

[RedSpartan]

22. Particularly appalling to me is

the guy in the article who said the Access Hollywood tape didn't bother him because at least Trump wasn't talking about grabbing little boys. Oh, and that same guy's wife has been told by her church that Obama is the Antichrist, which makes Trump... the Savior!

I can't even.

[TexasBushwhacker]

86. I've never understood the whole Antichrist thing

Granted, I'm a lifelong agnostic atheist.

But if the Antichrist has to come before the second coming of Christ, then shouldn't believers welcome the Antichrist? In any case, Trump is far closer to being against the teachings of Jesus than any President we've had in the past.

[Orrex]

23. In other words, they are idiot racist fuckheads

They became idiot racist fuckheads when they voted for Trump, though many were already idiot racist fuckheads for years or decades before that.

They will remain idiot racist fuckheads until they admit that they made a phenomenally stupid choice in voting for Trump.

[ismnotwasm]

28. Exactly.

[HughBeaumont]

40. By the time the average person comes to the end of the article . . .

. . . the light is shed. They simply hate non-white people.

For a lot of us, their ingrained racism was already painfully evident, and cheap-labor conservative Orange Lincoln Rockwell was their inside Grand Dragon.

[dawg]

26. We can't win over these people, but we can ...

get them to stay the hell home.

All it takes is for us to successfully portray their "hero" as a weak loser.

They'll walk over hot coals to vote for an ignorant bigoted bully. But a weakling who has to crawl to Chuck and Nancy? Why bother!

[Orrex]

30. That's a terrific point!

When their golden idol is shown to be an orange balloon full of manure, they lose their will to storm the polls.

[pstokely]

27. even more unreachable 33%ers here

http://www.ksdk.com/video/news/one-year-later-president-trump/63-2793751

[HughBeaumont]

31. Dumb. ASSES.

My GOD, some of these statements STOP TIME with their sheer stupidity:

“Everybody I talk to,” he said, “realizes it’s not Trump who’s dragging his feet. Trump’s probably the most diligent, hardest-working president we’ve ever had in our lifetimes. It’s not like he sleeps in till noon and goes golfing every weekend, like the last president did.”

I stopped him, informing him that, yes, Barack Obama liked to golf, but Trump in fact does golf a lot, too—more, in fact.

Del Signore was surprised to hear this.

“Does he?” he said.

“Yes,” I said.

He did not linger on this topic, smiling and changing the subject with a quip. “If I was married to his wife,” Del Signore said, “I don’t think I’d go anywhere.”

He added: “Some of these things are like that thing he said to Billy, Billy Bob, Billy Bud”—searching, unsuccessfully, for the name Billy Bush—“on the bus, that comment he made.” Del Signore shrugged. “He’s a human male. I’m glad he wasn’t saying, ‘Hey, I like little boys.’ You know? So he’s not perfect.”

Del Signore said he’s been following politics far more than before because of Trump. Trump, he said, is just “more interesting.” So now he likes watching the news. “Ninety-nine percent of the time I watch Fox,” he said. “Sometimes I’ll be sitting there listening to all this Fox stuff, and I’ll say, ‘Maybe they aren’t right, maybe I’ll flip to CNN’—but every time I’ve found that Fox has been correct, and CNN is definitely fake news.”

Dear GOD, just fuck off Joey. Christ on a fucking stick, GET SMARTER. There's NO way on Earth I'm EVER going to cater to this element.

[bullwinkle428]

72. What that creep is saying, is, "I don't give a shit if he's the biggest sexual predator

in the world - at least he's not gay!"

[volstork]

83. Teh Stoopid.

It hurts. BAD.

[maryellen99]

34. These are the ones who are going to have breakdowns or become violent

When either trump resigns or is forced out of office.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

52. Yes. We're going to be facing some very serious mental health challenges.

As more people realize they've been hoodwinked, they will face serious fear, depression and anxiety problems. We can only hope they seek help and don't resort to violence - domestic or public.

Many I fear, will learn the heard way that keeping their minds occupied in the right-wing propaganda bubble will not help with these very serious mental issues.

Even worse news is that the Repug congress critters will be reducing access to affordable mental health care.

[Orsino]

38. They that people vote their values, not their interests.

I don't think that's always true, but this reporter certainly found some Trumpers who barely understand their interests and so vote the values they'd like to think they have.

[pstokely]

44. fake values

no "fake" news for them

[we can do it]

88. Hate and bigotry are values now?

[muntrv]

41. I love the idiot, Maggie Frear, who said she would fire NFL players

for disrespecting the flag. As if she could replace them with qualified patriots.

[outinleftfield2]

42. PA Truth

Why we still cling to the notion that WI, MI and PA were "won" legally, fair-and-sqaure by the orange monster is beyond me. He "won" those three states COMBINED by about 80,000 votes. All a few bad actors had to do was uptick a vote here and add a vote there and voila. I'm not even counting Putin's hackers! I will never believe that those three states were actually wins for Trump. And the washed up, ignorant asses like the individuals in this article are going to be stupid racists till they day they die but I will never accept that they got him elected. PUTIN got him elected with propaganda and election tampering. Period. You should follow Mike Farb on Twitter. He is doing some excellent forensic work on election counts and there are "anomalies" EVERYWHERE. People have got to wake up to the fact that 2016 was stolen and stop trying to analyze these morons.

[pstokely]

47. and could they find anyone younger than 50 to interview

not like they'd be any less bigoted growing up in that environment

[mythology]

54. So in spite of no evidence to support your theory

You insist it must be true. In fact Wisconsin counties that hand recounted showed no statistically significant difference from machine recounted counties.

Mike Farb is an idiot. He makes things up to support his conclusion which he had before looking at the evidence. For example claiming that larger precincts have no reason to trend Republican is more than a little silly when compared to the party registration which matches the voting data he finds suspicious.

[outinleftfield2]

102. Trump supporter much?

Your weak argument regarding WI is just that, weak. Mike Farb isn't an idiot either. It's completely implausible that Trump won Mi, Wi AND PA by approximately 80,000 votes. So you're either a Republican provocateur/troll or you're simply not facing facts. yes, it is frightening to think that this democracy was so completely hijacked in this fashion - by confederates within the GOP and by a hostile foreign dictator, but until we face those facts, how can they be avoided in future elections?

[renate]

67. welcome to DU!

It will be interesting to see if the current view that there was no interference in the actual vote ever changes. It seems weird to me too.

[dalton99a]

45. Democrats have no business talking to those people

Let them die off

[workinclasszero]

48. Yup even as their god emperor screws the shit out of them

bankrupts them and leaves them dying in a ditch they will not give him up!

Their racial HATRED is more important to these dirtbags than their own children or their own life!!!!

[BannonsLiver]

50. It proves 2016 had zero to do with economic issues

His success with white working class voters centered entirely around weaponizing their grievances.

[YoungDemCA]

56. Classist trash. Fuck off, Politico. (nt)

[IronLionZion]

57. Johnstown used to be reliably blue when the steel mills were active

many coal miners were also reliable life long Democrats in that area. Until now.

It seems like some people like to cling to one thing to base their life on no matter what. They clung to steel/coal for their income for too long, and now they cling to Trump no matter how badly he fails them.

They like that he's an asshole who enrages people.

And they love feeling angry because it's draws their attention away from the abandoned buildings and dead economy and dwindling population in the area.

My parents are retiring and moving to Florida so pretty soon I won't have to set foot in that shithole ever again.

[MrScorpio]

59. It's the "At Least Trump Is White" crowd

I'd respect them a lot more if they'd admitted that's they voted for him.

[hibbing]

60. Corporate media uses "Trumpism" instead of racism n/t

[Solly Mack]

61. K&R

No surprises there. Trump tells them their hate is a good thing. That's what they like. It's not about making things better for themselves or others- it's about having an (so-called) authority figure sharing their hate and voicing it for all to hear.

They only thing these people "work hard" at is blaming everyone not them and stoking their hate.

[mn9driver]

62. It shows that running anti-Trump alone will not work.

Nobody throws away a life preserver when they are slowly drowning, even if it is an orange one that isn't working worth crap.

Unless they see another one close by that is actually working.

[pstokely]

85. they'd believe the orange life preserver is better

nt

[SpankMe]

63. Evidence that America is pretty much done:

From the article:

[Quote from Del Signore, Trump supporter] "Trump’s probably the most diligent, hardest-working president we’ve ever had in our lifetimes. It’s not like he sleeps in till noon and goes golfing every weekend, like the last president did.”

It's a point of fact that the exact OPPOSITE is true: Obama was a hard worker and Trump is actually the one who plays golf every weekend. The fact that this Trump voter believes the exact opposite of the reality, and whose view is unchangeable, is the reason why it is futile for Dems to go back in and try to convince Trump voters in upcoming elections.

Trump voters are lost. Forever. We have to jettison them from the pool of potential voters and concentrate on winning by appealing to the 66% of people left who can still think or can be reasoned with.

The bottom-feeding 33% will just get angrier and more armed and America will have a big problem that will change the very definition of America.

It's over. I'm losing hope.

[redstatebluegirl]

64. Brainwashing by Fox news and unbelievable racism.

These people want slavery back, they want it to be the 1950's again. They are deplorables. Sorry, Hill was right.

[octoberlib]

68. Jesus Christ.

“Everybody I talk to,” he said, “realizes it’s not Trump who’s dragging his feet. Trump’s probably the most diligent, hardest-working president we’ve ever had in our lifetimes. It’s not like he sleeps in till noon and goes golfing every weekend, like the last president did.”

[dalton99a]

70. There is no cure for willful ignorance.

Fuck them

[unblock]

76. well they're right about him not getting enough sleep...

as if running a country on 4 hours of sleep is a good thing....

[GoneOffShore]

74. Read it. It's the authoritarians coming out. These people would have voted for Hitler.

And they listen to Faux. They're lost.
They're bigots and they love fascism.

The results from yesterday give me some hope though.

[muntrv]

78. Article is a long version of this LBJ quote:

[hueymahl]

79. One of my favorite quotes of all time

This truth has been proved over and over and over and over . . . .

[Duppers]

98. That's it!

Thanks for posting this.

[Duppers]

101. The one HUGE reason trying to enlighten hardcore,

Low-info bigots is so difficult:

We are attacking the last thread their self-esteem is based upon.

[gordianot]

84. The permanent underclass lost to reason.

Exactly my experience of Trump supporters living the life and lies they chose. Working the coal mine, temporary employment and Walmart is what they desire for themselves and their children. They also want someone other than themselves to blame for their plight.

[ismnotwasm]

89. Hell I could have told you that

Working class white is my background. Yes they are mostly bigots. No it’s not worth chasing their vote.

[MountCleaners]

90. Here's what gets me...

He talks about black people feeling entitled, like they want success to be "given" to them (as if the NFL players haven't earned their wealth - and they have), but he evidently feels he "deserved" his job as a BASKETBALL coach (I assume he taught as well), even though he's a stinking racist! One would assume he's educated and yet he can't put the brain cells together to see his own entitlement. Racists shouldn't be teachers or coaches!

[pstokely]

93. maybe that's the only school that would hire him

he might have been rejected by schools in more enlightened places

[JustAnotherGen]

92. Excellent article

Excuse me - I'm on a Phil 'high' today.


Allow me to sound like one of those 'Trumpbots' in that article . .

I'm glad he's going to be in Trenton to stand up to Trump - and protect us AND our resources from 'them'.

Democratics only shot is to really GOTV in Philly and Pittsburgh Next year. Those people who refer to black athletes as 'niggers for life' want to be unimportant? Let's really make them unimportant.

[mamas]

97. Just put "Rich" in the from of the phrase.

That would make the croak..

[DeminPennswoods]

104. A PA perspective

I live a few counties to the west also in the same gerry-mandered CD-12. The fact that the interviewees are generally uninformed bigots isn't a surprise. They have plenty of company.

I wonder if they realize that they come off as wallowing in self-pity? The one big company left in town is going begging for skilled tradesmen and women yet the out of work coal miners can't be bothered to get out of their "comfort zone" with mine work to learn a trade that would pay a living wage and then some. I wonder if they resent it when outsiders are hired for these jobs?

I live in a small town that lost its mills and manufacturing, too, but at least we are making incremental strides in bringing it back to life. These folks would be well advised to do the same instead of buying into the politics of grievance. America has always had a can-do spirit. More's the shame Johnstown evidently lost theirs.

[n2doc]

105. In the long run, these communities are going extinct

And I say, let them. If anything about the last 8 years has become clear, it is that those in the educated parts of the country can outvote these relics if they have the desire. Repubs have gerrymandered and voter suppressed about as much as they can in the places they control, and they still barely won the presidency last time due to the EC. Last Tuesday showed what happens when people who haven't been brainwashed vote.

Over time, the republican agenda these rubes love so much will kill them off. And they will go to their graves blaming Obama.

[heaven05]

107. AmuriKKKans

are just stupid, ignorant human beings. May they all choke on their own bile.