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"There is no difference between the two" (Original Post) RhodeIslandOne Sep 2017 OP
I think a thousand of these threads is about enough. Iggo Sep 2017 #1
Since we're LIVING MFM008 Sep 2017 #2
I agree with you +1000. nt jrthin Sep 2017 #26
nope, not even close 0rganism Sep 2017 #10
I disagree. In fact, this needs to be brought up repeatedly Maven Sep 2017 #12
Those who peabody Sep 2017 #13
We must Never Forget!! aeromanKC Sep 2017 #14
And I thought it was bad after Obama won. Iggo Sep 2017 #16
AMEN! NT tiredtoo Sep 2017 #35
Let me give this a big K&R. We need to speak out against those who claim there was no difference. LonePirate Sep 2017 #3
We saw differences starting when Bush was elected wryter2000 Sep 2017 #32
K&R brush Sep 2017 #4
The media deserves a lot of the blame for this one. Willie Pep Sep 2017 #5
And now that the media is beginning to come around.. He has hung the annabanana Sep 2017 #8
Agreed! Fuck them all! NurseJackie Sep 2017 #6
K&R mcar Sep 2017 #7
Said the same thing about Bush and Gore LyndaG Sep 2017 #9
k and r, and a great big FU to those who said so. niyad Sep 2017 #11
Welcome Back to DU! RandiFan1290 Sep 2017 #15
I just don't get the obsession on DU with Ms. Sarandon . FairWinds Sep 2017 #17
Every useful idiot did their part RhodeIslandOne Sep 2017 #19
She and her sort had everything to do with this loss and Gore's loss...I despise her . Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #28
Let's just rehash this daily... Chakaconcarne Sep 2017 #18
Yeah, no biggie, right? RhodeIslandOne Sep 2017 #20
You would have thought people would have remembered 2000 aeromanKC Sep 2017 #21
"Hillary is just as evil as Trump" Dopers_Greed Sep 2017 #22
Why are you telling me? Roy Rolling Sep 2017 #23
"to any of you idiots lurking in shame today who said that last year" RhodeIslandOne Sep 2017 #25
K&R louis c Sep 2017 #24
Because we have to "Send them a message". Wolf Frankula Sep 2017 #27
God motherfucking damn it! FiveGoodMen Sep 2017 #29
You really don't think there are still people here lurking? RhodeIslandOne Sep 2017 #30
And what is accomplished by filling this site with such messages? FiveGoodMen Sep 2017 #33
Thank you wryter2000 Sep 2017 #31
to be fair Skittles Sep 2017 #34
My first reaction from the OP was laughter. Worded perfectly! ffr Sep 2017 #36
Your welcome! Nm RhodeIslandOne Sep 2017 #37

0rganism

(23,912 posts)
10. nope, not even close
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 01:58 PM
Sep 2017

maybe around 65 million of them will be enough.
if i never hear that false-equivalence bullshit again, it will be too soon.

aeromanKC

(3,318 posts)
14. We must Never Forget!!
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 03:34 PM
Sep 2017

It is something so important it needs to be said every day every hour every minute!!!!! Never Again!!!!!!!

LonePirate

(13,402 posts)
3. Let me give this a big K&R. We need to speak out against those who claim there was no difference.
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 01:21 PM
Sep 2017

We have seen monumental and predictable differences every day since January 20.

wryter2000

(46,023 posts)
32. We saw differences starting when Bush was elected
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 04:10 PM
Sep 2017

And yet, people continued to peddle this nonsense. It has to stop.

Willie Pep

(841 posts)
5. The media deserves a lot of the blame for this one.
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 01:35 PM
Sep 2017

The media wants to make every election a close horse race for views and clicks so they had to amplify Clinton's supposed negatives to match Trump's. That is how you heard about the dumb e-mail "scandal" as much as or even more than Trump's misogyny or his stiffing contractors and other problems.

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
8. And now that the media is beginning to come around.. He has hung the
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 01:42 PM
Sep 2017

"fake news" trope around their necks, which will minimize their ability to help us right the ship...

 

FairWinds

(1,717 posts)
17. I just don't get the obsession on DU with Ms. Sarandon .
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 03:40 PM
Sep 2017

Of course she erred badly, as did some others, but that had
very little to do with the outcome of the election.

THIS (below) is why Ms. Clinton lost, and DU should be spending time
and effort on how to deal with it in 2018 and beyond . .

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/08/but-her-emails/#disqus-container

And the original Harvard study is here . .

https://cyber.harvard.edu/publications/2017/08/mediacloud

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
19. Every useful idiot did their part
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 03:41 PM
Sep 2017

The media.

The "TRUE" progressives.

The Russians.

Trump's cabal.




They all own this.

aeromanKC

(3,318 posts)
21. You would have thought people would have remembered 2000
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 03:47 PM
Sep 2017

NO, a vote for Nader to make a point since after all, there is no real difference between Gore and Bush and the 2 Establishments Party's.
Um, Alito and John Roberts, 2 illegal Wars, Economic disaster later. Um, YES there is a Difference!!!!

Roy Rolling

(6,905 posts)
23. Why are you telling me?
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 03:53 PM
Sep 2017

I NEVER said that, nor anyone with half a brain here. Go seek out the offenders and stop ragging on your friends.

We are already angry with the mess, and don't deserve generalized complaints. Muhammad Ali said "the first thing I do to unnerve an opponent is to get them angry". (paraphrased)

Anger is like starting fluid. one squirt can start an engine, but it won't power it for more than a second.

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
25. "to any of you idiots lurking in shame today who said that last year"
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 03:59 PM
Sep 2017

Why did that hit a nerve?

I'm speaking to the people who saw fit to start their own bullshit site but can't help but come over here to gloat. Fuck them! They ARE watching!

Wolf Frankula

(3,598 posts)
27. Because we have to "Send them a message".
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 04:03 PM
Sep 2017

That's why "A vote for Anderson is a vote for Nader is a vote for Stein which is a vote for Reagan is a vote for Bush is a vote for Trump." Do you still think "There is no difference?" Between Carter and Reagan, Bush and Gore, Clinton and Trump?

If you do, you are a fool.

Wolf

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
29. God motherfucking damn it!
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 04:07 PM
Sep 2017

When will we see the last of these posts?????????????

Who are you preaching to?

Who here really thought there was no difference?

And even if there had been some who thought that, what is the point of this now?!

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
30. You really don't think there are still people here lurking?
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 04:08 PM
Sep 2017

Do you know what a lurker is?

Anyone posting here and on a site that's referring to President Obama snarkily as "Mr Hope and Change" TODAY should get the fuck out of here.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
33. And what is accomplished by filling this site with such messages?
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 04:11 PM
Sep 2017

If there are lurkers who STILL think there's no difference, this won't change their minds.

If there are those who know better now and lurk anyway, then 1) they know better now, and 2) they're not going to come out and apologize.

Meanwhile, we all have to waste our time on these rants.

wryter2000

(46,023 posts)
31. Thank you
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 04:08 PM
Sep 2017

I hope in the future no one will lend credence to that kind of bullshit. People will continue to spew it, but with any luck, no one will believe it.

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