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Thu Mar 23, 2017, 04:02 PM

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I wonder if current events are bringing up painful memories for House intelligence committee member Jackie Speier. As older forum members know, this is not her first confrontation with a megalomaniac. In November of 1978, she was part of a fact-finding mission as part of an investigation into abuses by Jim Jones, at the “People's Temple” in Guyana. She worked Congressman Leo Ryan, who represented the same general district that she does today.

In that tragic incident, Jones ordered a vicious attack on Rep. Ryan and others, as they attempted to board their flight to leave “Jonestown.” Five people, including Ryan, were killed by gun-fire; Ms. Speier was hit five times, and would lay wounded for 22 hours before help arrived.

This is not to suggest that Jones and Trump are identical twins. But they do share certain dangerous personality characteristics. Devin Nunes's attempt to distribute the kool aid to the media yesterday must have reminded Speier of 1978.

Trump and the alt-right must be removed from power by constitutional means. I would not be surprised if they then move to the jungles of Guyana.

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H2O Man Mar 2017 OP
Me. Mar 2017 #1
H2O Man Mar 2017 #6
NBachers Mar 2017 #2
pangaia Mar 2017 #3
H2O Man Mar 2017 #10
H2O Man Mar 2017 #7
livetohike Mar 2017 #4
H2O Man Mar 2017 #8
kentuck Mar 2017 #5
H2O Man Mar 2017 #9

Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Thu Mar 23, 2017, 04:04 PM

1. You Are On A Roll

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Response to Me. (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 23, 2017, 08:14 PM

6. I think that

this is the second fragment of an idea that flashed through my mind that I've posted in the past 24 hours.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Thu Mar 23, 2017, 04:06 PM

2. I'm very apprehensive of them playing the North Korea suicide card.

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Response to NBachers (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 23, 2017, 04:11 PM

3. And I as well.

Bannon wants some 'event'.. This in my view is the biggest current danger.

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Response to pangaia (Reply #3)

Thu Mar 23, 2017, 08:25 PM

10. It would seem

that Bannon et al have attempted to focus some attention to North Korea ....curious, as it seems Bannon's type of "leader."

Still, there is no chance of winning in a violent conflict there. Everyone loses. I do not believe the military leadership would cooperate with Trump there. But in the Middle East, I can easily imagine a "crisis."

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Response to NBachers (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 23, 2017, 08:15 PM

7. Right.

I don't think the military would go along with a foolish move on North Korea, though.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Thu Mar 23, 2017, 04:14 PM

4. that was a horrid and horrible event. Seems like yesterday. I'm sure she must have PTSD and watching

fake President and his deluded followers has to be terrible for her.

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Response to livetohike (Reply #4)

Thu Mar 23, 2017, 08:20 PM

8. Seriously.

It still seems fresh to me, and I think the current administration has to be bringing back memories for her.

I've got a few letters from Rubin from that time, when we discussed those events. About the dangers posed by individuals who believe that they control "power." Or delude themselves into believing they are "power." And of groups who willingly turn over their ability to think and decide, to such "leaders."

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Thu Mar 23, 2017, 04:26 PM

5. I didn't know that about her!

Wow!

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Response to kentuck (Reply #5)

Thu Mar 23, 2017, 08:21 PM

9. Yep.

I remember that this was when I first learned who she was. A few years later, while hanging out on the west coast, I learned more about her serving in office. She is a tough, highly intelligent lady.

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