Trumptown

[H2O Man]

I wonder if current events are bringing up painful memories for House intelligence committee member Jackie Speier. As older forum members know, this is not her first confrontation with a megalomaniac. In November of 1978, she was part of a fact-finding mission as part of an investigation into abuses by Jim Jones, at the “People's Temple” in Guyana. She worked Congressman Leo Ryan, who represented the same general district that she does today.

In that tragic incident, Jones ordered a vicious attack on Rep. Ryan and others, as they attempted to board their flight to leave “Jonestown.” Five people, including Ryan, were killed by gun-fire; Ms. Speier was hit five times, and would lay wounded for 22 hours before help arrived.

This is not to suggest that Jones and Trump are identical twins. But they do share certain dangerous personality characteristics. Devin Nunes's attempt to distribute the kool aid to the media yesterday must have reminded Speier of 1978.

Trump and the alt-right must be removed from power by constitutional means. I would not be surprised if they then move to the jungles of Guyana.

[Me.]

1. You Are On A Roll

[H2O Man]

6. I think that

this is the second fragment of an idea that flashed through my mind that I've posted in the past 24 hours.

[NBachers]

2. I'm very apprehensive of them playing the North Korea suicide card.

[pangaia]

3. And I as well.

Bannon wants some 'event'.. This in my view is the biggest current danger.

[H2O Man]

10. It would seem

that Bannon et al have attempted to focus some attention to North Korea ....curious, as it seems Bannon's type of "leader."

Still, there is no chance of winning in a violent conflict there. Everyone loses. I do not believe the military leadership would cooperate with Trump there. But in the Middle East, I can easily imagine a "crisis."

[H2O Man]

7. Right.

I don't think the military would go along with a foolish move on North Korea, though.

[livetohike]

4. that was a horrid and horrible event. Seems like yesterday. I'm sure she must have PTSD and watching

fake President and his deluded followers has to be terrible for her.

[H2O Man]

8. Seriously.

It still seems fresh to me, and I think the current administration has to be bringing back memories for her.

I've got a few letters from Rubin from that time, when we discussed those events. About the dangers posed by individuals who believe that they control "power." Or delude themselves into believing they are "power." And of groups who willingly turn over their ability to think and decide, to such "leaders."

[kentuck]

5. I didn't know that about her!

Wow!

[H2O Man]

9. Yep.

I remember that this was when I first learned who she was. A few years later, while hanging out on the west coast, I learned more about her serving in office. She is a tough, highly intelligent lady.