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Wed Mar 22, 2017, 04:16 PM

Nunes

Devin Nunes's conversation with reporters is a good thing, no matter if he intended for it to be or not. The head of the House Intelligence Committee noted that he discussed reports he saw with House Speaker Paul Ryan this morning, although it is unclear of if Nunes shared information about the reports with Adam Schiff. Speaking to reporters about this may provide substance for the dwindling number of delusionals, who are outraged that President Obama wired Trump's phone ….but it also puts Trump on notice, very publicly.

Certainly, Trump and his carp will claim that this “breaking news” supports his wild lies. But the news does no such thing. Though I'm not a huge fan of mainstream news, I'd say that most of it has noted that Trump lied. That he changes the goal posts. And that his refusal to take ownership of his lies is not a positive character trait.

We all knew that Flynn was caught in discussions with the Russian ambassador the day that President Obama announced sanctions. We just had no idea of how many of the others were doing so. And the fact is that there are many, many connections being documented. It's still unknown how many times Trump was in contact with enemies of the United States. But the public may start finding out, sooner than expected.

So we can expect some blather from the alt-right. Rabid animals do foam at the mouth. But the average citizen knows that Trump is full of crap, that his presidency thus far is a failure, and that it is dangerous to allow him to continue. And Trump can be counted on to reinforce this in the next 24 hours. Big time.

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H2O Man Mar 2017 OP
CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2017 #1
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dixiegrrrrl Mar 2017 #75
H2O Man Mar 2017 #76
Me. Mar 2017 #2
H2O Man Mar 2017 #4
spanone Mar 2017 #5
H2O Man Mar 2017 #6
malaise Mar 2017 #7
H2O Man Mar 2017 #8
ms liberty Mar 2017 #9
H2O Man Mar 2017 #10
hamsterjill Mar 2017 #11
H2O Man Mar 2017 #12
hamsterjill Mar 2017 #15
H2O Man Mar 2017 #20
hamsterjill Mar 2017 #23
H2O Man Mar 2017 #27
hamsterjill Mar 2017 #29
dchill Mar 2017 #81
H2O Man Mar 2017 #82
dchill Mar 2017 #83
H2O Man Mar 2017 #85
dchill Mar 2017 #86
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wishstar Mar 2017 #13
hamsterjill Mar 2017 #16
H2O Man Mar 2017 #21
ms liberty Mar 2017 #69
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madokie Mar 2017 #94
murielm99 Mar 2017 #14
hamsterjill Mar 2017 #18
murielm99 Mar 2017 #22
hamsterjill Mar 2017 #25
murielm99 Mar 2017 #35
hamsterjill Mar 2017 #36
2naSalit Mar 2017 #32
lostnfound Mar 2017 #37
kerry-is-my-prez Mar 2017 #84
H2O Man Mar 2017 #95
Peachhead22 Mar 2017 #104
H2O Man Mar 2017 #24
7962 Mar 2017 #44
littlemissmartypants Mar 2017 #17
H2O Man Mar 2017 #19
democrank Mar 2017 #26
H2O Man Mar 2017 #30
Jarqui Mar 2017 #89
George II Mar 2017 #28
H2O Man Mar 2017 #31
hamsterjill Mar 2017 #34
HoneyBadger Mar 2017 #33
H2O Man Mar 2017 #55
WinkyDink Mar 2017 #38
certainot Mar 2017 #39
WinkyDink Mar 2017 #42
H2O Man Mar 2017 #56
japple Mar 2017 #40
H2O Man Mar 2017 #57
Kentonio Mar 2017 #41
H2O Man Mar 2017 #58
Blue_Tires Mar 2017 #43
Chemisse Mar 2017 #52
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ancianita Mar 2017 #45
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democrank Mar 2017 #46
kentuck Mar 2017 #47
H2O Man Mar 2017 #62
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H2O Man Mar 2017 #61
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H2O Man Mar 2017 #102
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H2O Man Mar 2017 #97
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H2O Man Mar 2017 #98
suffragette Mar 2017 #99
H2O Man Mar 2017 #100
Peachhead22 Mar 2017 #103

Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 04:22 PM

1. It took 4 minutes for your amazing post to get to the Greatest Page, my dear H20 Man!

Wow!

Well said and definitely worthy.

Trump's really REALLY good at undermining himself, so I expect your last sentences to be prophetic.



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Response to CaliforniaPeggy (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 04:25 PM

3. It's a struggle.

Kind of reminds me of the work my boy was doing, training for the finals next month. We discussed how a hurt opponent will throw a series of desperate punches. You just cover up, slip the shots, and then punish him when he's out of breath.

Things are good now. Nunes erred.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #3)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 09:48 PM

75. "although it is unclear of if Nunes shared information about the reports with Adam Schiff."

Schiff said Nunes did not.
he specifically said Nunes provided info. that not even the Committee had yet.

It was in a Schiff Tweet a few minutes ago...I will try to find it..been reading Twitter a lot today and absorbed much.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #75)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 09:49 PM

76. Right.

Schiff has been on fire this afternoon. Good man.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 04:24 PM

2. Allow Me

K&R

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Response to Me. (Reply #2)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 04:25 PM

4. Well, thank you!

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 04:27 PM

5. K&R...

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Response to spanone (Reply #5)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 04:28 PM

6. Thanks!

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 04:29 PM

7. K & R

Cornered rats always squeal

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Response to malaise (Reply #7)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 04:33 PM

8. Right?

Thanks

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 04:33 PM

9. Things are getting interesting, quickly. And these are not

The smartest kids in the class. K&R. So good to have you back and posting!

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Response to ms liberty (Reply #9)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 04:34 PM

10. Exactly.

I did not expect things to be moving at this pace. It's wild!

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 04:35 PM

11. Here's my concern. Help me feel better, please.

What if the "incidental" information about Trump was collected in a way that it cannot be used against him? Trump is a treasonous bastard. There is no doubt in my mind that he's in bed with Putin. But what if Feinstein's (and others') frustration and anger stem from knowing that they have proof of Trump being in bed with Putin, yet it won't be able to be used to impeach him because of the way that proof was collected?

Thoughts, please????

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Response to hamsterjill (Reply #11)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 04:38 PM

12. Thanks easy .....

The information already gathered can be used -- both in a civil action (impeachment), and a criminal trial in federal court. I expected things to take more time, but they seem to be moving very fast at this point.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #12)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 04:47 PM

15. Even if Trump was not the intended subject of the wire tap and is considered illegally "unmasked"?

The Repukes were making a BIG deal of "unmasked" at the hearing.

Please understand. I want Trump behind bars! I just don't want to get my hopes up and have them dashed.

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Response to hamsterjill (Reply #15)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 04:56 PM

20. Yes.

Especially if they have one of Trump thanking the Russians for their assistance in electing him.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #20)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 04:59 PM

23. Good point!

Okay. Thank you.

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Response to hamsterjill (Reply #23)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 05:01 PM

27. Things will get ugly

for the next few days. The administration is being seriously damaged. They will attempt to go on the attack. But they are getting tired, and more prone to making mistakes. This will continue to damage the administration.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #27)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 05:05 PM

29. From your keyboard to God's ears!

You don't know (or maybe you really do!) how much getting rid of Trump means to me. I want it to be swift. I want it to be legal. Not advocating any violence whatsoever. I want it to be airtight, and I want that SOB out of office and in jail.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #12)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 09:59 PM

81. "...moving very fast..."

Yes. It seems to me that some on the (R) side must have realized that this country doesn't have a lot of time to repair the damage done, and the imminent damage that probably will be done under the "deconstruction of the administrative state."

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Response to dchill (Reply #81)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 10:00 PM

82. "The 'big mo',"

to quote Bush the Elder. It is intense.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #82)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 10:05 PM

83. I've had a feeling for quite a while...

that the evidence indicates a situation of a scope that no one is sure how to deal with it. Can you spell President Hatch?

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Response to dchill (Reply #83)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 10:07 PM

85. It is large

and very ugly. And extremely dangerous.

I'm glads that the intelligence community has been encouraging Congress to do their job. This needs to be resolved by way of the Constitution.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #85)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 10:13 PM

86. I now really know what Hunter Thompson meant...

by "fear and loathing." Incompetent party over country, ruling from a majority position with minority support. It burns.

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Response to dchill (Reply #86)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 10:15 PM

87. Yeah.

All my friends and associates my age who are still alive keep shaking our heads, and saying, "This ain't the country we grew up in."

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #87)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 10:23 PM

88. Well, it is and it ain't.

In 1969, I was 18 and therefore in the first Draft Lottery. It's the only lottery I ever won; my number was 300, which virtually guaranteed that I'd never be drafted. The relief that I felt was intense, but no more intense than the dread I felt for my friends who drew single digits.

These days I fear that the insanity of the Draft could be returning. That's a country I really don't want to live in again.

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Response to hamsterjill (Reply #11)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 04:41 PM

13. Nunes said it was legally collected and no conclusions had been drawn yet

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Response to wishstar (Reply #13)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 04:51 PM

16. I don't trust Nunes.

He may have referred to "legally" collected with respect to the intended target. Trump was "incidental". And if they can prove that Trump was unmasked in a way that isn't legal to do, therein lies my concern.

I want them to roast his orange ass!!!

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Response to hamsterjill (Reply #16)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 04:57 PM

21. The information

is all good. There are no legal defenses to it.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #21)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 09:14 PM

69. Correct me if I'm wrong Waterman, but

If he, orange man, were caught on a wiretap or other recording with someone who was being legally investigated and it was due to surveillance of the other person, and he, orange man, made statements that showed knowledge of or participation in criminal acts, serious ones that included potential treason (not to mention high crimes and misdemeanors) then that would almost certainly be something that would be legal to use in prosecution of said orange man.
In other words, as long as the person he was speaking to was being legally surveilled, anything orange man says fair game. Generally. I'm sure there would be some caveats.

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Response to ms liberty (Reply #69)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 09:39 PM

70. Right.

Trump is in trouble.

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Response to hamsterjill (Reply #16)

Thu Mar 23, 2017, 07:13 AM

94. I'm with you

I want them to roast his orange ass!!!


Peace

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Response to hamsterjill (Reply #11)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 04:41 PM

14. Information obtained after FISA court

rulings can be used. I think Feinstein's frustration came from knowing that she could not discuss the damaging things she knew about trump. That may change now. Nunes went public with things about which he should have remained quiet. His actions may speed up any legal decisions against trump and his fellow conspirators.

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Response to murielm99 (Reply #14)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 04:53 PM

18. Okay. Why do you think Nunes did this then?

That dude was sweating like a pig when he was talking to the reporters, too. Could he have been threatened in some way? I mean, what he did is pretty unbelieveable.

I sincerely hope that things DO speed up. Tomorrow would not be too soon to see that orange ass impeached and in jail!

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Response to hamsterjill (Reply #18)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 04:57 PM

22. I don't know.

I am doing the same thing you are doing: reading and listening to what others are saying about it. It is confusing.

Schiff his having a news conference in a few minutes. We may get some insight from him.

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Response to murielm99 (Reply #22)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 05:00 PM

25. I understand.

I'm just "discussing" and I like others' viewpoints on things.

Yes, I'll be very interested in what Schiff has to say. I read his statement. Hopefully, he will have more information at the time he is on with Blitzer.

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Response to hamsterjill (Reply #25)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 05:19 PM

35. I wonder if Nunes, and perhaps some others,

were looking for a distraction from the disaster that the health care repeal is becoming. And of course, they may need a distraction from the Gorsuch hearings. The distraction, if that is what it is, has backfired.

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Response to murielm99 (Reply #35)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 05:23 PM

36. You know...you just ever know about these idiots.

Normal parameters do not apply, that's for sure.

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Response to hamsterjill (Reply #18)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 05:09 PM

32. It was the cold sweat of

a culprit caught in the act. I bet he doesn't even know that what he just did could hang him. But I wonder if he was "fed" some "news" so he would go running to the boss, and maybe he was also threatened.

Either way, he's in big, deep doodoo. Maybe he was "informed" in order to push this thing a little harder for expediency since it's getting close to a "point of no return" with the damage being done to this nation. If you can get one scared rat to slit his own throat...

And I am wondering that, even as he (Comey) is not the most favorable FBI director we could want, he may be patriotic enough to go after these guys hard. And maybe letting them usurp the election had to be done to make the rest of the nation understand what happened and why whatever the result is had to come about... maybe.

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Response to hamsterjill (Reply #18)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 05:29 PM

37. Nervous breakdown or an amateurish attempt at some cover story

Or he wanted to go whine to The Great Potumpkin about all the trouble Nunes was gonna be in.

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Response to hamsterjill (Reply #18)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 10:05 PM

84. Maybe he's one of the congressmen who were "influenced" by Manafort. They said Manafort got

paid $10 million to influence people in Congress, etc. I'm betting he was one of the people who was "influenced."

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Response to kerry-is-my-prez (Reply #84)

Thu Mar 23, 2017, 01:01 PM

95. Good call.

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Response to hamsterjill (Reply #18)

Thu Mar 23, 2017, 03:50 PM

104. My guess

Nunes said it was incidental collections that got members of the transition. Probably not Trump himself is the way I understood it.

Guess who was a member of Trump's transition team? Nunes was! I'm guessing Nunes got wind of an intercept that included himself (possibly talking to someone he shouldn't have or saying something he shouldn't have) and it totally freaked him out.

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Response to murielm99 (Reply #14)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 04:59 PM

24. Right.

There is some dispute regarding if Trump actually declassified information in some of his rants. Nunes either made a serious mistake, or he is sending Trump a clear message.

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Response to hamsterjill (Reply #11)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 06:23 PM

44. but didnt Nunes say there was nothing related to russia? Or am I thinking of another person?

 

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 04:51 PM

17. ♡ eom

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Response to littlemissmartypants (Reply #17)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 04:55 PM

19. Thank you.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 05:01 PM

26. Replying to your posts usually requires that I'm on best behavior because you always "go high"

but I'm kind of outraged right now. This Nunes fella is a regular slimeball. I just listened to his CNN interview with Jake Tapper and all I could think of was....weasel.

Why would Nunes have briefed Paul Ryan today, but not Adam Schiff? Why would he hold a press conference before speaking with other House Intelligence Committee members?

Doesn't it seem a bit suspicious that Chairman Nunes, former member of the Trump transition team, would run over to the White House faster than you can say "aid and abet", even before contacting Adam Schiff?




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Response to democrank (Reply #26)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 05:05 PM

30. You are right.

Those are extremely important points. Nunes is a human weasel. But, neither he nor Ryan will sacrifice their "reputations" by defending Trump beyond a certain point. They are both panicked right now. Taking major steps while panicked is not a wise thing.

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Response to democrank (Reply #26)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 10:36 PM

89. I think he was childish. He saw something and like a kid (or Trump)

had a rush to judgement before deliberating, having all the facts and getting several inputs of advice.

To me:
1. His partisan actions brought us one step closer to an independent prosecutor
2. His evidence suggests the net of info they're tracking goes beyond Russia
3. Schiff followed up with comments to the effect that they now have evidence to establish Trump-Russia beyond circumstantial
4. His actions seem to be by a group who is on edge and covering up

Like the "Obama wiretapped me" allegations, I suspect this is going to blow up in their faces.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 05:02 PM

28. The information he received was in conjunction with his Committee's investigation....

....but he spoke about that information with both Ryan and trump BEFORE he spoke to anyone else on the Committee itself.

Schiff is livid, and is excoriating Nunes right now (5:01 PM EST)

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Response to George II (Reply #28)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 05:08 PM

31. Rep. Schiff is

stepping up to the plate these days. I like that.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #31)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 05:18 PM

34. He's saying an independent commission is now imperative!

Good going, Schiff! He's awesome!

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Response to HoneyBadger (Reply #33)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 07:51 PM

55. Right.

Again today, training my son for next month's Golden Gloves finals, we reviewed how wounded opponents will try to fight back. Ride with it with your hands up, and let him shoot his wad. Then destroy him.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 05:31 PM

38. Hannity is all over this. "Everybody was WRONG. Trump was RIGHT." OMG.

 

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #38)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 05:38 PM

39. yes, that was the purpose and that's what 1200 radio stations will say

all week. and that's the real purpose of the whole thing, along with feeding increasing attacks on obama.

while the left /dems ignore talk radio it will make this kind of shit real to 10s of million

these assholes will get the teeabggers screaming about obama and the gop will use it to threaten an investigation on obama and they will use it as leverage to get deals and compromises.

all because dems and the left ignore talk radio.

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Response to certainot (Reply #39)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 06:11 PM

42. You nailed it.

 

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #38)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 07:51 PM

56. Solid proof

that we are right.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 05:54 PM

40. I am not sure this is a reliable source, but I'm throwing it out because it makes sense.

If it's the Palmer Report isn't a reliable or acceptable source, please let me know.


According to the Los Angeles Times he has $50,000 of his own money tied up in the winery, which is remarkable considering that the same report lists his total net worth at just $51,002. In other words, the winery is all Nunes has.


https://www.palmerreport.com/news/russia-devin-nunes-donald-trump/2019/

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Response to japple (Reply #40)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 07:54 PM

57. I'm not familiar

with the Palmer Report, but on face value, it's interesting. Certainly, something spooked Nunes.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 05:59 PM

41. Apart from a confession, it's hard to think of many better gifts than Nunes just gave us

 

The levels of stupid are quite remarkable.

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Response to Kentonio (Reply #41)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 07:55 PM

58. I expect that

there will be a few "leaks" to the media in the next 72 hours!

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 06:15 PM

43. Nunes had two major goals today, I'm thinking...

1. To taint his own investigation before it could pick up momentum

2. To tell the WH just how heavy the evidence is against them so they can be prepared, and more likely to warn them that this scandal will be too big for containment


But ironically by doing this, Nunes made the ice under Trump's feet that much thinner...

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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #43)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 06:59 PM

52. This makes a lot of sense!!

I've been struggling to understand why this all happened today.

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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #43)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 07:56 PM

59. Well said.

I agree fully.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 06:26 PM

45. K & R with thanks.

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Response to ancianita (Reply #45)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 07:56 PM

60. Thank you.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 06:31 PM

46. Does anyone here remember Trump saying

a few days ago that some interesting information would be coming in a week or two about his Obama/ surveillance claim? I can't remember where I heard it but I know I did.

Just like magic and pretty much right on schedule, Nunes produces such information.

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Response to democrank (Reply #46)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 06:33 PM

47. He always breaks the story ahead of time when he is told something...

Just as when he told Russia to make Hillary's emails public.

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Response to kentuck (Reply #47)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 08:43 PM

62. Good point.

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Response to democrank (Reply #46)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 07:01 PM

53. YES, I remember that.

Thanks for the reminder.

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Response to democrank (Reply #46)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 08:41 PM

61. Sure do.

His legal staff had been informed weeks ago.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 06:46 PM

48. Ok. Calms me down.

My impression was that Nunes was trying to help the cover up in any way he could and was giving a life raft to the Repugs and their media.

But your words make sense.

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Response to zentrum (Reply #48)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 08:45 PM

63. Nunes got spooked.

It is very possible that he was shown evidence that his name came up during the transition. (Actually, it's more than likely.)

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #63)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 08:58 PM

68. Hmmm. Quite a theory.

So they're all in on it?

Shades of Rosemary's Baby---"It's all of them! All of them!"

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Response to zentrum (Reply #68)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 09:44 PM

72. It doesn't require

Nunes to have been an informed part. For example, if the Russuan ambassador called Boris Badenov and said, "I just spoke with Flynn about those sanctions. He assured me not to worry. He said that in time, he can count on an idiot named (masked), from the House, who is assisting on the transition, to help us on future deals," it would spook him. Nunes was freaked by "masked" names that he easily identified.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 06:53 PM

49. Notice the statement from Rep. Nunes

This is a quote from the Hill.

"Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) criticized Nunes for his surprise announcement earlier in the day that he had seen intelligence intercepts that showed authorities had incidentally gathered information on members of the Trump transition team during investigations that the chairman said were not related to Russia."

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/325298-schiff-i-have-grave-concerns-over-nunes-surveillance-claims

One of the things I have wondered about through out the talk of ties to russia was there other things going on with dipshit and or his group. With this group it seems no chance of furthering themselves with power or money would be left behind. If they saw a child with a quarter and no one around I think it would be in their pocket fast. Illegal finances? Influence peddling? Mob ties? Ties to other governments? (Such as Flynn and Turkey.) A lot of possibilities.

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Response to duncang (Reply #49)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 08:47 PM

64. Huge point.

And you are on target with Flynn and Turkey.

I'm amused that some folks still believe Flynn was fired for lying to Pence. The only "evidence" of that came from the White House. As always, it was a lie.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 06:57 PM

50. Excellent post

Slowly but inexorably the enormity of the Russian interference is coming out.

Good to see you, H2O Man.

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Response to NastyRiffraff (Reply #50)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 08:48 PM

65. Thanks!

Good to see you.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 06:59 PM

51. K&R!

Thank you, H2O Man.

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Response to gademocrat7 (Reply #51)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 08:48 PM

66. Thank you.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 07:23 PM

54. It is legal for the NSA to listen to any foreigners communications. Bush and the GOP made it so.

Foreigners do not have any right to privacy. Which means that any American communicating with a foreigner has to know that the NSA is almost certainly listening in.

The fact that Trump and Co. seemingly did not know that U.S. intelligence had a legal right--no, make that a duty under the law--to keep track of foreigners, their actions are worse than treasonous. They reveal a level of ignorance that is disturbing. No one as dumb as Trump should have his finger anywhere near the red button.

So, is Trump gonna plead ignorance with his ignorant base? Will they buy it? Probably. But they still won't buy losing their health insurance so health insurance companies can get a bailout. That violates the outlaw code.

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Reply #54)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 08:49 PM

67. By late spring,

Trump may try an insanity defense.

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Reply #54)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 09:45 PM

73. At this point...

is Trump's base popularity even 37%?

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 09:40 PM

71. Remember when Trump said, a week ago, that news would be coming out soon vindicating him?

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-claim-idUSKBN16M2YQ

So was this dog and pony show by Nunes the news? If so, they are conspiring together.

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Response to mchill (Reply #71)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 09:46 PM

74. Yes.

Nunes has betrayed his position on the intelligence committee. He is a disgrace.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #74)

Thu Mar 23, 2017, 01:54 AM

92. Was Nunes info what Trump was talking about last week? I had the sense that Nunes was

rushing over to deliver this important new information. So Trump was already in on the theater.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 09:50 PM

77. K&R.

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Response to dchill (Reply #77)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 09:52 PM

78. Thanks.

Crazy times.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 09:53 PM

79. Nunes is making a solid case for a special prosecutor...

I hope he keeps it up.

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Response to Sancho (Reply #79)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 09:54 PM

80. Yes.

He really has.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 10:48 PM

90. K & R and thank you!

You have made this old dude a little happier...

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Response to Vilis Veritas (Reply #90)

Thu Mar 23, 2017, 01:02 PM

96. Thanks.

I keep hearing Jim Morrison singing, "Strange days have found us ...."

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #96)

Thu Mar 23, 2017, 02:43 PM

101. Strange Days indeed my friend.


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Response to Vilis Veritas (Reply #101)

Thu Mar 23, 2017, 02:55 PM

102. Great song,

intense video!

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Thu Mar 23, 2017, 12:10 AM

91. So tell me the truth

Is Nunes really that f-ing stupid?

How the hell did he think making his little speech was going to help Cheetoh?

I want to ring him up and ask him -- what color is the sky in your world?

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Response to coeur_de_lion (Reply #91)

Thu Mar 23, 2017, 01:05 PM

97. Nunes is in

way over his head. He lacks any background in actual intelligence issues. That shows.

It would be almost funny, if this wasn't so serious.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Thu Mar 23, 2017, 06:52 AM

93. What the President DIDN'T know.....

I'd be interested in your (everyone's) opinion on
the thought that the antics we have seen with the "wires tapped" are simply attempts by Trump's lawyers to flesh out what the intelligence services (including foreign)
actually know. I think Nunes agreed to having Comey we come before the intelligence committee for just that purpose. The entire unmasking line of questioning was simply to find out how wide spread is the knowledge.

Comey threw an off speed curve ball by confirming to the public there is enough evidence to pursue and expanding the universe to include The Entire Campaign Apparatus. The investigation would necessarily include the post election time period since anyone's actions to cover up what was done would be included as all conspiracies do.

I am also of the opinion that Friday night in Florida is when he was advised by his "real" lawyers and the results are the Saturday morning "fishing" excursion.

(I know the Nunes prank yesterday was lifted straight out of a Professional Wrestling script)

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Response to creoledna (Reply #93)

Thu Mar 23, 2017, 01:18 PM

98. Interesting.

I think that a number of people -- including Trump -- thought they had pulled it off without detection. But that confidence has been shaken, starting most obviously when Trump cut Flynn. That wasn't due to Flynn's "lying" to the white worm.

Trump's outburst wasn't simply to focus the alt-right's hatred on President Obama.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Thu Mar 23, 2017, 01:30 PM

99. Succinct and spot on.

K&R

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Response to suffragette (Reply #99)

Thu Mar 23, 2017, 01:36 PM

100. Thanks!

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Thu Mar 23, 2017, 03:35 PM

103. Why did Nunes go to the WH?

Another question that @EricGarland on Twitter brought up that I hadn't thought about:

Why did Nunes personally go to the WH to see Trump? If he needed to talk to Trump that bad why didn't he just pick up the phone? I'm sure there must be secure phones between the Capitol Building and the WH to discuss classified stuff in a hurry.

Is Nunes that paranoid that he or Trump is currently under surveillance? If by any chances Nunes is correct and they are being surveilled. Then they are surpremely screwed. A FISA or criminal judge wouldn't approve it, especially against them, unless they were already profoundly screwed.

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