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jaysunb

(11,856 posts)
Wed Dec 28, 2011, 11:24 PM Dec 2011

Democrats can not afford to lose the Senate

I expect President Obama to win a well deserved 2nd term, but if we don't work double overtime to see to it that we maintain the Senate, his second term will see even more (if that's possible) obstruction, only this time w/ more lethal effects.

I can't imagine the problems Obama would have getting judges appointed...especially, to the almost certain to be vacant Supreme Court seat.(s) We are never going to make any progress as long as the judicial systems remains in the throes of corporate and right wing America.

Elections matter. We must really focus on the Bigger picture. We quite possibly will win back the House, but we really need to put special focus on the slim margin we now enjoy in the Senate.

Get out and get involved. Fight! for what you believe in !

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Democrats can not afford to lose the Senate (Original Post) jaysunb Dec 2011 OP
My prediction as of tonight. RandySF Dec 2011 #1
I Don't Believe Montana, Missouri or Nebraska Will Switch to the Dark Side mckara Dec 2011 #2
Who will save Nebraska? RandySF Dec 2011 #3
a net 2 sounds about right Motown_Johnny Dec 2011 #4
Which combination do you see happening? RandySF Dec 2011 #5
kinda far out to be as specific as you have been Motown_Johnny Dec 2011 #6
Running the table RandySF Dec 2011 #10
Wisconsin will be a tough run, too. Go Baldwin!! PeaceNikki Dec 2011 #9
+2 for Republicans still keeps us in the slim majority. LiberalAndProud Dec 2011 #14
That's pretty much what analysts were saying on Tweety last night Owlet Dec 2011 #16
Jon Tester certainly can win, even if Obama loses. Dawson Leery Dec 2011 #7
Why would they lose the Senate? nt Zorra Dec 2011 #8
We have an important primary in Hawaii RandySF Dec 2011 #11
I'm backing Mazie... ellisonz Dec 2011 #17
I don't see us winning back the House. edhopper Dec 2011 #12
k&r... spanone Dec 2011 #13
Agreed Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2011 #15
You either stand for something or you stand for nothing... ellisonz Dec 2011 #18
Rec'd treestar Dec 2011 #19

RandySF

(57,659 posts)
1. My prediction as of tonight.
Wed Dec 28, 2011, 11:29 PM
Dec 2011

Republicans pick up North Dakota, Missouri, Montana and Nebraska. Democrats pick up Massachusetts and Nevada. Net +2 for Republicans.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
4. a net 2 sounds about right
Wed Dec 28, 2011, 11:37 PM
Dec 2011

although I might argue the details



They need a net +4 to take control so we are not in terrible shape as of yet.


If this does end up a 50/50 Senate, or even a 51/49 Senate, we really do need to change the filibuster rules. If only to make it impossible to filibuster judicial appointments.
 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
6. kinda far out to be as specific as you have been
Wed Dec 28, 2011, 11:44 PM
Dec 2011

I think MA is a sure win for us and I am thinking maybe we only lose 3 of the 4 you had listed.

If they take all 4 it would pretty much be running the board and the (R)s have put forward such terrible candidates lately I just don't see that happening.

RandySF

(57,659 posts)
10. Running the table
Wed Dec 28, 2011, 11:52 PM
Dec 2011

would probably include Wisconsin, Virginia and Hawaii. I don't see that happening.

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
14. +2 for Republicans still keeps us in the slim majority.
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 12:55 AM
Dec 2011

There is no arguing North Dakota or Nebraska, as we don't seem to have Dems on the ballot in either of those states. I think Montana will be close but we might be able hold that seat, and/or the same goes for Missouri, IMO.

Owlet

(1,248 posts)
16. That's pretty much what analysts were saying on Tweety last night
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 06:30 AM
Dec 2011

Made sense when I heard it then. As usual, I can't remember the arguments that led to the conclusion. As far as Nebraska goes, Nelson wasn't much of a Dem to begin with, but the (D) after his name did matter in the overall count for majority. I dunno: I just have a really bad feeling about the Senate and House races in general. Two (or four) more years of gridlock and it's pretty much 'game over' for this country.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
7. Jon Tester certainly can win, even if Obama loses.
Wed Dec 28, 2011, 11:45 PM
Dec 2011
http://blog.lib.umn.edu/cspg/smartpolitics/2011/03/why_jon_tester_can_survive_an.php

North Dakota and Nebraska seem to be the only two losses right now.

The teakooks have played a signifigant role in shifting the advantage back to the Democrats in swing states.
The Democrats have improved their positions in Michigan, Ohio, and Missouri.
In addition to pick ups in MA/NV, Arizona is going to have a competetive race. Lugar is in trouble in Indiana and the Democrats have fielded a former Governor to run.

RandySF

(57,659 posts)
11. We have an important primary in Hawaii
Wed Dec 28, 2011, 11:56 PM
Dec 2011

Progressive Mazie Hirono and DINO Ed Case are facing off in a rematch (they face each other in a House primary). Ed Case is the worst kind of "Democrat" who acts like a Republican in a liberal state. If I remember correctly, he supported Bush's war in Iraq. We don't need him to win this race in November while Hawaii and America are better off without him.

ellisonz

(27,709 posts)
17. I'm backing Mazie...
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 06:34 AM
Dec 2011

I know of at least 2 other Hawaii DUers who are for Mazie. Ed Case is my step-mothers second cousin too; we think he has the Romney syndrome - keeps running in races he can't win.

edhopper

(33,208 posts)
12. I don't see us winning back the House.
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 12:30 AM
Dec 2011

Too many Repuke State Gov.s have jeremandered it away.
The Senate is a possible loss. As is the Presidency.

"No one ever went broke...."

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,355 posts)
15. Agreed
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 12:56 AM
Dec 2011

We need to not only win (keep) the Senate but also (somehow) make it politically toxic for the Republicans (or anybody else) to keep up with this radical obstructionism that makes it impossible for President Obama to appoint nominees to fill cabinet positions and federal courts (particularly when the only reason the Republicans are objecting to most of the nominees is simply because it's OBAMA who is doing the appointing), grinds normal Senate business to a halt, and prevents the Senate from being able to have an up-or-down majority vote on, well, anything.

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