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Why aren't there more "Bernies" ? (Original Post) C Moon May 2015 OP
There's no money in it n/t arcane1 May 2015 #1
Yeah, I guess it was a dumb question. I wonder how many U.S. polticians will join him. C Moon May 2015 #2
Perhaps he'll be an inspiration to some other passionate people. arcane1 May 2015 #6
There are some others who are similar in their views, Warren eg, and Sherrod Brown sabrina 1 May 2015 #29
Correct. (nt) enough May 2015 #8
Because Madoff and the comedy about the corpse led to a decline in the name's popularity? Warren DeMontague May 2015 #3
:D C Moon May 2015 #11
took a moment ... GeorgeGist May 2015 #13
Why do you say "so many"? brooklynite May 2015 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words May 2015 #5
Lolz BrotherIvan May 2015 #14
Remember when Kucinich was compared to Ghandi in 2008? PeaceNikki May 2015 #9
Um. I said "so many" because that's the buzz that's going around. No need to be a jerk. C Moon May 2015 #10
Sorry, but I haven't heard "the buzz"... brooklynite May 2015 #16
Well to be honest, such buzz is unlikely to be found in the cocktail party click Dragonfli May 2015 #17
That's clique. If you are going to use demagoguery against someone at least spell it right. nt stevenleser May 2015 #21
Oh snap! I must just be one of them common folk, oh well, I am, and we are annoying ammiright. Dragonfli May 2015 #28
Nothing common about resorting to demagoguery. It's an uncommonly bad practice. nt stevenleser May 2015 #31
I've heard the buzz tecelote May 2015 #26
+1 leftofcool May 2015 #27
Because the 1% of the 1% will do anything and everything to silence good, honest "Bernies." 99Forever May 2015 #7
+1 C Moon May 2015 #12
They are quite literally sick with greed BrotherIvan May 2015 #15
Yep, they will allow a few in... awoke_in_2003 May 2015 #18
There are a fair amount of them in all kinds of races. They usually don't get the nomination stevenleser May 2015 #19
Ah. Good point. C Moon May 2015 #20
In my town, they get nominated but not elected. The RW radio is stronger everyday here. n/t freshwest May 2015 #22
Post removed Post removed May 2015 #23
Because there aren't more Vermonts cali May 2015 #24
The Congressional Progressive Caucus is the largest Democratic caucus within the Congress, so Bluenorthwest May 2015 #25
Well...aside from the fact that there's no money in it Pooka Fey May 2015 #30
+1 That's one thing I'm concerned with for Bernie, as well. C Moon May 2015 #32

C Moon

(12,209 posts)
2. Yeah, I guess it was a dumb question. I wonder how many U.S. polticians will join him.
Sat May 2, 2015, 08:49 PM
May 2015

It'll be interesting.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
6. Perhaps he'll be an inspiration to some other passionate people.
Sat May 2, 2015, 08:58 PM
May 2015

Running a grass-roots campaign is hard at the national level, but it demonstrates how effective it could be at the local level. If we can fill city halls and governor's mansions with Bernies, we may be on to something!

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
29. There are some others who are similar in their views, Warren eg, and Sherrod Brown
Sun May 3, 2015, 12:51 PM
May 2015

among others. But he seems to have the ability to get people to listen. Maybe because he wasn't a member of any party so couldn't be reigned in as easily.

brooklynite

(94,333 posts)
4. Why do you say "so many"?
Sat May 2, 2015, 08:55 PM
May 2015

do you know factually, from research, that he's striking a cord? Or are you simply assuming that he strikes a cord with YOU, so he should with everyone else?

Response to brooklynite (Reply #4)

brooklynite

(94,333 posts)
16. Sorry, but I haven't heard "the buzz"...
Sat May 2, 2015, 10:05 PM
May 2015

...and I haven't seen anyone writing about "the buzz".

Seriously, we're going into an election where the impact of a more left-leaning candidate on the outcome could be significant. If you've got evidence that there's an electorate that's going to support such a candidate, it would helpful to know.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
17. Well to be honest, such buzz is unlikely to be found in the cocktail party click
Sat May 2, 2015, 10:25 PM
May 2015

at catered gatherings.

In blue collar poor neighborhoods he is the talk of the town. Even among the usually apathetic politically, that should tell you something. The regular folk that Washington ignores and has returned such unconcern with voter apathy is waking up for him, not the billion dollar candidates that they don't trust.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
28. Oh snap! I must just be one of them common folk, oh well, I am, and we are annoying ammiright.
Sun May 3, 2015, 12:33 PM
May 2015

No wonder I am never invited to the catered events, I spelled clique wrong! Clearly I am one of the unwashed.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
7. Because the 1% of the 1% will do anything and everything to silence good, honest "Bernies."
Sat May 2, 2015, 09:05 PM
May 2015

They have no scruples or honor, nor do they care one bit about the rest of us and don't ever believe a word they say. They lie as easily and naturally as fish swim.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
15. They are quite literally sick with greed
Sat May 2, 2015, 10:03 PM
May 2015

And some of us think that someday we'll be just like them. Lol.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
19. There are a fair amount of them in all kinds of races. They usually don't get the nomination
Sun May 3, 2015, 01:37 AM
May 2015

I see progressives on the ballot in mayoral races, congressional races, senate races, etc.

If they run as a Democrat they usually don't get the nomination and if they run independent or third party they usually get less than 2 percent of the vote.

Response to C Moon (Original post)

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
24. Because there aren't more Vermonts
Sun May 3, 2015, 06:12 AM
May 2015

In Vermont, there are lots of pols with integrity and passion fighting for people.

Here are 2 up and comers:

Timothy Ashe (born December 10, 1976) is one of six current Vermont Senators from the Chittenden Vermont Senate District.

Ashe graduated from the University of Vermont in 1999. He immediately went to work in then Congressman Bernie Sanders’ Burlington office where he worked for two and a half years.[1] In late 2001 Ashe took a position with United Academics, the faculty union at the University of Vermont.

From 2002 to 2004 Ashe attended Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government.[2] While there he concentrated his studies on domestic social policy. He also served as a teaching assistant to Ed Miliband, now a British MP and the leader of the Labour Party, in a course comparing US and northern European social policy. Upon graduating Ashe moved back home to Vermont.

Ashe served on the Board of Spectrum Youth and Family Services, a community organization serving at-risk youth. He coached in the Old North End Little League for two years. He is an advocate for lost creatures, helping to reunite a dog with his family October 13, 2013.

In July 2004, Ashe successfully sought a seat on the Burlington City Council in a special election to replace Carina Driscoll. He has won re-election in 2005 and 2007. Ashe became the youngest member of the Council when elected.

Ashe worked at the Champlain Valley Office of Economic Opportunity from 2005 to 2006. Since the Fall of 2006, Ashe has been a Project Manager at Cathedral Square, a nationally recognized[citation needed] non-profit developer of affordable housing for seniors and people with disabilities.

In November 2008 Tim Ashe became the first elected Vermont Progressive to be elected to the Vermont Senate. And in November 2010 was the first Progressive to win reelection to the senate. He won on a Progressive/Democratic fusion ticket and was endorsed by Senator Bernie Sanders.[4][5]

<snip>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Ashe

David Zuckerman, State Senator:

Zuckerman ran for the Vermont House in 1994 while still enrolled in college, losing by 59 votes. He ran again two years later and become the fourth Progressive Party member to serve in the Vermont State House, a seat that he held through 2010.[1]

Prior to serving in the House, he served on the Burlington Electric Commission. While in the House he served for 6 years on the Natural Resources and Energy Committee as well as 6 years on the Agriculture Committee, including 4 as the Chairperson. He finished his time in the House of Representatives by serving on the Ways and Means Committee. In 2005, Zuckerman considered running for the sole Vermont seat in the U.S. House of Representatives in the 2006 U.S. House election, that was being vacated by Independent Rep. (now Senator) Bernie Sanders, eventually deciding not to run in order to continue serving as Agriculture Chair in the Vermont House of Representatives.

Zuckerman ran for Vermont State Senate in 2012 and won as a Progressive/Democrat.[2][3]

In his time in the General Assembly, Sen. Zuckerman has been involved in the passage of Vermont's civil union and marriage equality laws, workers' rights legislation, increasing the minimum wage, sustainable (economic and environmental) agricultural policy, marijuana policy reform, election law reform, many renewable energy initiatives, progressive taxation policy as well as universal healthcare.

In January 2014, Sen. Zuckerman introduced legislation that would allow for recreational sale and use of marijuana. If passed it would allow for possession up to 2 ounces of cannabis, and the cultivation of up to 3 plants for anyone that is 21 and over. It would also have the penalty for under-aged consumption of marijuana be the same as the current penalty± for under-aged drinking.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Zuckerman_%28politician%29

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
25. The Congressional Progressive Caucus is the largest Democratic caucus within the Congress, so
Sun May 3, 2015, 08:56 AM
May 2015

there are more progressive Democrats than you suggest.
http://cpc.grijalva.house.gov/caucus-members/

In the Senate, I'm pretty happy with Merkley, my Senator, as well as a few others. Not as many as we'd like, but none of them have to be a lone voice.

Pooka Fey

(3,496 posts)
30. Well...aside from the fact that there's no money in it
Sun May 3, 2015, 12:57 PM
May 2015

being on the Left is a serious health hazard for American political leaders whose message resonates with the people.

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