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(589 posts)napkinz
(17,199 posts)"Respect must be earned; you can't enforce it."
I sure as hell respect this officer!
helpmetohelpyou
(589 posts)My respect for the officer comes because this was a funeral for his fallen fellow officer
and not a time or place to voice displeasure in the mayors office.
napkinz
(17,199 posts)Officer Ramos.
helpmetohelpyou
(589 posts)I wonder now that some had time to reflect on what they did if some officers regret participating in it.
rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)are you serious?
helpmetohelpyou
(589 posts)but read my other comment in the thread
rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)sorry you never know here lol
Kingofalldems
(38,423 posts)Cha
(296,848 posts)showed theirselves to be prepubescent, Hypocritical with an arrogance beyond despicable, and more importantly.. heartbreakingly disrespectful to Officers Ramos.
Exactly.. complete list of those who protest at funerals.
Will they be doing the same at Officer Wenjian Liu's funeral?
napkinz
(17,199 posts)Meet the Police Chief Who's Bravely Protesting Police Brutality
Richmond California Police Chief Chris Magnus held "Black Lives Matters" sign while wearing his uniform.
Steven Rosenfeld
December 13, 2014
This past Tuesday, as the mayor and top city officials in Berkeley, California, were deciding to postpone that evening's City Council meeting to avoid a confrontation with protesters over clashes with police in demonstrations over police brutality, top officials in nearby Richmond did something unexpected.
Police Chief Chris Magnus, Deputy Chief Allwyn Brown, Mayor Gayle McLaughlin, and three City Council members all joined a similar protest on a major city thoroughfare to underscore that they understood the issues at stake and were listening to their community, which has one of region's most ethnically diverse populations.
They stood with protesters for four and a half hours, the length of time that Michael Brown's body lay on the pavement in Ferguson, Missouri, after the unarmed black man was shot and killed by a white officer.
"I spoke with my command staff and we agreed it would be nice to convey our commitment to peaceful protest and that black and brown lives do matter," said Magnus, whose remarks were widely quoted.
""We get the conversation about the use or force, we get it," said Brown on Tuesday. "This is an opportunity for all police departments, including ours, to look inward and examine our approaches and get better."
But in the days that followed, that looking inward has prompted surprising criticism from inside Richmond police ranks.
read more: http://www.alternet.org/activism/meet-police-chief-whos-bravely-protesting-police-brutality
Cha
(296,848 posts)Gutsy! We know they're out there.
Thanks for the, napkinz.
napkinz
(17,199 posts)... those gutsy officers deserve recognition and praise.
(There should be a Serpico award given to GOOD cops.)
G_j
(40,366 posts)By FRANK SERPICO October 23, 2014
In the opening scene of the 1973 movie Serpico, I am shot in the faceor to be more accurate, the character of Frank Serpico, played by Al Pacino, is shot in the face. Even today its very difficult for me to watch those scenes, which depict in a very realistic and terrifying way what actually happened to me on Feb. 3, 1971. I had recently been transferred to the Narcotics division of the New York City Police Department, and we were moving in on a drug dealer on the fourth floor of a walk-up tenement in a Hispanic section of Brooklyn. The police officer backing me up instructed me (since I spoke Spanish) to just get the apartment door open and leave the rest to us.
One officer was standing to my left on the landing no more than eight feet away, with his gun drawn; the other officer was to my right rear on the stairwell, also with his gun drawn. When the door opened, I pushed my way in and snapped the chain. The suspect slammed the door closed on me, wedging in my head and right shoulder and arm. I couldnt move, but I aimed my snub-nose Smith & Wesson revolver at the perp (the movie version unfortunately goes a little Hollywood here, and has Pacino struggling and failing to raise a much-larger 9-millimeter automatic). From behind me no help came. At that moment my anger got the better of me. I made the almost fatal mistake of taking my eye off the perp and screaming to the officer on my left: What the hell you waiting for? Give me a hand! I turned back to face a gun blast in my face. I had cocked my weapon and fired back at him almost in the same instant, probably as reflex action, striking him. (He was later captured.)
When I regained consciousness, I was on my back in a pool of blood trying to assess the damage from the gunshot wound in my cheek. Was this a case of small entry, big exit, as often happens with bullets? Was the back of my head missing? I heard a voice saying, Don worry, you be all right, you be all right, and when I opened my eyes I saw an old Hispanic man looking down at me like Carlos Castanedas Don Juan. My backup was nowhere in sight. They hadnt even called for assistanceI never heard the famed Code 1013, meaning Officer Down. They didnt call an ambulance either, I later learned; the old man did. One patrol car responded to investigate, and realizing I was a narcotics officer rushed me to a nearby hospital (one of the officers who drove me that night said, If I knew it was him, I would have left him there to bleed to death, I learned later).
The next time I saw my back-up officers was when one of them came to the hospital to bring me my watch. I said, What the hell am I going to do with a watch? What I needed was a back-up. Where were you? He said, Fuck you, and left. Both my back-ups were later awarded medals for saving my life.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/10/the-police-are-still-out-of-control-112160.html#ixzz3NFgBNnZ5
napkinz
(17,199 posts)In the NYPD that means little next to my 40-year-old heresy, as they see it. I still get hate mail from active and retired police officers.
-snip-
A few years ago, after the New York Police Museum refused my guns and other memorabilia, I loaned them to the Italian-American museum right down street from police headquarters, and they invited me to their annual dinner. I didnt know it was planned, but the chief of police from Rome, Italy, was there, and he gave me a plaque. The New York City police officers who were there wouldnt even look at me."
That's just sad. And very telling.
Houston ... I mean New York, you STILL have a problem.
Cha
(296,848 posts)Monday, May 12, 2014
The East Bay's New Power Couple: Richmonds Gay Police Chief Gets Married
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Richmond Police Chief Chris Magnus and Terrance Cheung, the chief of staff in Supervisor John Gioias office, were married in a ceremony that took place among blooming flowers in the terraced amphitheater at the Berkeley Rose Garden over the weekend. After the small ceremony, the newlyweds held a reception for about 250 people at the Richmond waterfront restaurant Salutes.
Magnus and Cheung form something of a political power couple as was evidenced by some of the guests at the reception. Among the well-wishers were some of the heaviest hitters in the East Bay, including Congressman George Miller, state Senators Loni Hancock and Mark DeSaulnier, Assemblywoman Nancy Skinner, Contra Costa Supervisor Gioia, Berkeley Mayor Tom Bates, Richmond Mayor Gayle McLaughlin, and most of the citys councilmembers.
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Modesty aside, the two men have made considerable contributions to the communities they work in. As Supervisor Gioias chief of staff, Cheung has worked tirelessly on the development of the Ryse Center, which offers numerous resources and organizing opportunities for troubled youths in West Contra Costa County. He has also worked on the development of a one-stop service center for the formerly incarcerated that offers assistance with housing, employment, education, counseling, and medical resources for those who are struggling to get a footing after being released from prison. He is currently working the development of the West Contra Costa Family Justice Center, which provides counseling, legal and support services to the victims of domestic violence
Magnus eight years as Richmond police chief have seen a sustained reduction in violent crime that has rarely been matched in other cities that have experienced seemingly intractable violence related to gangs and chronic unemployment. When Magnus first became chief in 2006, Richmond was regularly rated as one of the most violent cities in the United States. Now, the citys crime rates are at their lowest in 30 years, which is the result of Magnus community policing programs, which include forging strong bonds with community members, church leaders, and young people. The result has been safer streets and renewed interest in the city by businesses.
MOre..
http://www.eastbayexpress.com/SevenDays/archives/2014/05/12/the-new-power-couple-richmonds-gay-police-chief-gets-married
We know about lately what he's been up to..
Richmond Police Chief Magnus says hed hold protest sign again
By Matier & Ross
Updated 6:33 pm, Monday, December 15, 2014
Richmond Police Chief Magnus says hed hold protest sign again
Richmond Police Chief Chris Magnus, who set off an avalanche of emotions when he held up a #Black Lives Matter sign at a local protest, says he wouldnt hesitate if placed in the same situation.
Sure, I would do it again, but I would like to be a little better prepared for the fallout, Magnus said Monday.
The police chief said he and about a half dozen other members of his command staff were at a community center when the protest began Dec. 9, and that a woman he was chatting with on issues of the day asked if he would hold the sign.
I looked at it for a minute and realized this is actually pretty innocuous, Magnus said. That 'black lives matter is something that I would think that we should all be able to agree upon. All lives matter.
MOre..
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/matier-ross/article/Richmond-Police-Chief-Magnus-says-he-d-hold-5959053.php
napkinz~ We'll slowly get a list together.. it will come out. I have someone in mind when I get the time to feature him.. Pretty sure anyway.
napkinz
(17,199 posts)Second, the NYPD should -- but of course won't -- look to Chief Magnus as a model for how to properly police:
Now, the citys crime rates are at their lowest in 30 years, which is the result of Magnus community policing programs, which include forging strong bonds with community members, church leaders, and young people. The result has been safer streets and renewed interest in the city by businesses.
Thanks for sharing his story, Cha. We need to hear more such stories.
I look forward to seeing that list come out.
And this year's Serpico goes to ...
Cha
(296,848 posts)What a concept!
napkinz
(17,199 posts)posted by ellenrr:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026016338
Cha
(296,848 posts)rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)thank you sir
Hutzpa
(11,461 posts)nothing but respect and admiration for this officer.
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)is says a lot, and none of it is good for the NYPD image.
napkinz
(17,199 posts)Do we know what exactly the NYPD image is in New York?
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)But it really wouldn't matter, would it?
napkinz
(17,199 posts)I just thought you meant the opinion of New Yorkers. I guess the NYPD doesn't care what its image is, in NY or the rest of the country. Their brazen antics pretty much supports such.
So you're right; it really doesn't matter. They're going to do as they please, regardless of public opinion.
lobodons
(1,290 posts)GOP went ape shit when Senator Wellstone's memorial service turned into a political event. I guess another example of IOKIYAR
still_one
(92,061 posts)Last edited Sun Dec 28, 2014, 10:38 PM - Edit history (1)
rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)drm604
(16,230 posts)It was, indeed, a brave act. He'll probably get a lot of harassment, or worse, from his fellow officers because of this.
sheshe2
(83,654 posts)They disrespected one of their own in a childish display of arrogance.
One brave man stood out in that crowd and stood for their fallen comrade, Officer Ramos.
napkinz
(17,199 posts)I would love to know more about him, his life.
He is an INSPIRATION!
sheshe2
(83,654 posts)One man standing bravely and alone.
napkinz
(17,199 posts)it sends a message to the world (and I hope to those other officers so blinded by hate)
mountain grammy
(26,598 posts)napkinz
(17,199 posts)mountain grammy
(26,598 posts)because I'm sure his "brothers in blue" won't.
napkinz
(17,199 posts)posted by WillyT
The black officers interviewed said they had been racially profiled by white officers exclusively, and about one third said they made some form of complaint to a supervisor.
All but one said their supervisors either dismissed the complaints or retaliated against them by denying them overtime, choice assignments, or promotions. The remaining officers who made no complaints said they refrained from doing so either because they feared retribution or because they saw racial profiling as part of the system.
see http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026010832
Ramses
(721 posts)Kinda shoots down any argument that most cops are good. Seems most cops are corrupt insubordinate hateful people.
America has the LARGEST PRISON POPULATION on the planet, and there are people who will say with a straight face that we arent a police state.
No one believes the bullshit anymore. No one buys it.
No one.
daredtowork
(3,732 posts)Portrait of Courage - that was the best comment under the original twitter post for the top picture last night.
Cha
(296,848 posts)he had to pay for that via Lynch's henchmen or not.
Cha
(296,848 posts)What he did say was, We have to understand the betrayal that they feel. Lynch kept saying that today is a day for mourning, and tomorrow everyone can go back to debating. He did not outright say whether these officers were right or wrong to do what they did.
Lynch, of course, has been incredibly critical of de Blasio, to the point where he blamed the mayors rhetoric about the police for the deaths of Ramos and his partner Wenjian Liu.
MOre..
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnn-reporter-confronts-nypd-union-head-about-cops-turning-backs-to-de-blasio/
Yeah, "a day for mourning" and a day to show that we're not above Westboro Church.. we can Protest at funeral's too. Seems to me like Lynch was the one who made this happen with his inflammatory rhetoric.
napkinz
(17,199 posts)How again were they betrayed? HOW????
1. The Mayor shared that he had a talk with his son, as any good father should.
2. And from your own thread, the mayor spoke out against violence:
You cannot talk about social change and then commit an act of violence against a police officer. It makes no sense. It denigrates the cause. It undermines the legitimacy. Its illegal, its wrong, its immoral.
Again on the 19th, a day before the killing of the officers, said:
This is what our democracy allows for, is people to make their voices heard peacefully, in an organized way and thats what this group and others have been doing. I made very clear that we cannot accept any violence against our police officers or against anyone. And they were very quick to affirm that they were appalled equally by the events on Saturday night. They find it unacceptable and they will work with the police to identify anyone who seeks to harm the police or harm anyone and undermine their non-violent peaceful progressive movement.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026002280
Pat Lynch is a DISGRACE!
Cha
(296,848 posts)pat,
napkinz
(17,199 posts)their rhetoric and antics the past week only confirm what so many had accused them of before the tragic deaths of the officers
that they are often tone-deaf and arrogant and hostile
joshcryer
(62,266 posts)He'll potentially need protection or at least public support if suddenly he's demoted or loses his benefits or retirement or is forced into an early resignation or something.
napkinz
(17,199 posts)But with what you just pointed out, now we have to be concerned for his well-being. For those of us who admire what he did, there are plenty more (his peers) who have disdain and who might seek retribution for his "disloyalty."