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napkinz

(17,199 posts)
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 10:16 PM Dec 2014

He has NOTHING to apologize for, NO ONE to apologize to ... this is a good man




Andray @AndrayDomise
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I really want people to remember that Bill de Blasio was blamed for police deaths by virtue of being a responsible parent to a black son.
5:13 PM - 20 Dec 2014 1,862 Retweets 1,369 favorites

https://twitter.com/andraydomise/status/546503765302722560

thanks to Cha for sharing above tweet
see http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026002280
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He has NOTHING to apologize for, NO ONE to apologize to ... this is a good man (Original Post) napkinz Dec 2014 OP
amen.... spanone Dec 2014 #1
YES! elleng Dec 2014 #2
We have his back, well some of us do anyway. randys1 Dec 2014 #3
the problem is there is an anti-Mayor de Blasio campaign; their crowd is out in full force napkinz Dec 2014 #80
Excellent thoughts, napkinz.. this needs to be out there Front and Center. Cha Dec 2014 #4
the pic in my OP brings to mind this cartoon (a fact of life these officers don't understand) napkinz Dec 2014 #101
.. Cha Dec 2014 #117
Mayor DeBlasio seems to be pretty cool shenmue Dec 2014 #5
Remembered and stored. Blamed for the death of two cops, because he has a black son. Rex Dec 2014 #6
what these racist cops don't understand ... napkinz Dec 2014 #100
I'm still enraged over the death of Martin. Justice weeps in 2014. Rex Dec 2014 #102
and the police and the right-wing are EXPLOITING the tragic murders of the two NYPD officers to napkinz Dec 2014 #104
I expect them to not only go on, but to get bigger and louder. nt Rex Dec 2014 #106
"get bigger and louder" ... as they should napkinz Dec 2014 #109
Mayor de Blasio and his beautiful family.. Cha Dec 2014 #7
A good man madokie Dec 2014 #8
Yes, and the NYPD are not going to get him ousted. Cha Dec 2014 #10
So far all they've done is show how petty they are madokie Dec 2014 #13
Precisely, madokie. Petty and lethal prepubescent playground bullies. Cha Dec 2014 #18
+1 an entire shit load. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #50
thank you for sharing, Cha napkinz Dec 2014 #86
another great pic napkinz Dec 2014 #135
Remember that Rudy's people were pissed that Joe Lhota didn't win. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #9
right.. but, things can change and hopefully they will soon in a New York Second! Cha Dec 2014 #11
There has been no polling on de Blasio but he likely took a hit, but i doubt it will last. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #14
This.. >>>>>>>.. Cha Dec 2014 #20
I think he can handle cwydro Dec 2014 #12
Well said, cwydro Cha Dec 2014 #21
Thank you Cha. nt cwydro Dec 2014 #54
It's 'Protect and Serve', NYPD, not 'Kill and Subvert' Cha Dec 2014 #15
oh, they serve and protect ... napkinz Dec 2014 #130
Excellent.. Exactly, napkinz~ Cha Dec 2014 #131
thanks to DeSwiss napkinz Dec 2014 #141
that is EXACTLY what it is Skittles Dec 2014 #16
For the benefit of us out on the left coast........ Capt.Rocky300 Dec 2014 #17
Some days you can only cry for the stupid in people napkinz. sheshe2 Dec 2014 #19
the picture of the mayor and his son SO reminds me of this cartoon (from when Trayvon Martin died) napkinz Dec 2014 #107
Shame on those cops. Shame, shame, shame. blkmusclmachine Dec 2014 #22
Huge K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Dec 2014 #23
The NYPD Showed NO Respect for Authority Today.. Cha Dec 2014 #24
Precisely. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #51
that graphic hits the nail on the head! napkinz Dec 2014 #87
And no respect for the deceased vankuria Dec 2014 #122
Exactly, vankuria. Cha Dec 2014 #123
and shame on those supporting their deplorable behavior napkinz Dec 2014 #129
I've heard this has as much to do with $$ (bitter contract talks Mayor de Blasio inherited) as FailureToCommunicate Dec 2014 #25
The NYPD has a lot to apologize for though Kalidurga Dec 2014 #26
Exactly, Kalidurga. Cha Dec 2014 #27
Wow. Phlem Dec 2014 #28
learned at my daddy's knee. mopinko Dec 2014 #111
Your dad Phlem Dec 2014 #112
he passed long ago. i am old. mopinko Dec 2014 #113
Post removed Post removed Dec 2014 #29
Did you mean to post those rightwing taking points here geek tragedy Dec 2014 #30
Ah ha ha ha Indydem Dec 2014 #34
The cops hate deblasio because his family is black and he's seen as too sympathetic geek tragedy Dec 2014 #82
... napkinz Dec 2014 #127
2 recent hidden posts, most frequently posting in History of Feminism, and mahina Dec 2014 #83
Has called for Obama to be prosecuted, accused Obama of destroying geek tragedy Dec 2014 #84
Absolutely not true. Indydem Dec 2014 #88
First link is where you say he will need to be prosecuted because geek tragedy Dec 2014 #96
Second link is where you call him "the man who destroyed social security." geek tragedy Dec 2014 #97
*CRICKETS* Rex Dec 2014 #105
That poster is NOT a History of Feminism poster. JTFrog Dec 2014 #92
I took it to mean the person was trolling HoF. geek tragedy Dec 2014 #99
Of course not, it is the only way they can Rex Dec 2014 #103
What lack of support? dogman Dec 2014 #31
Lack of support? AYFKM!? Phlem Dec 2014 #32
Did deBlasio give them that union? Indydem Dec 2014 #33
"No he did not. The police banded together and organized it." Phlem Dec 2014 #35
So what is your point exactly? Indydem Dec 2014 #38
That the "been the mayor for 5 minutes" Phlem Dec 2014 #41
The Mayor is the ultimate civilian authority over the police. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #56
DeBlasio is not a badge sniffer who thinks it's okay for cops to kill black men willy nilly. geek tragedy Dec 2014 #78
Still mad that Joe Lhota didn't pull it out? geek tragedy Dec 2014 #79
Joe Lhota ... had to look that one up napkinz Dec 2014 #132
What you appear to miss re: who gave them that union... MrMickeysMom Dec 2014 #53
Oh? So PLEASE Enlighten Us to what exactly is NYPD's "Problem" with Mayor de Blasio? Cha Dec 2014 #36
Read his statement after the Garner GJ Indydem Dec 2014 #37
Doubling down. Phlem Dec 2014 #39
Took the challenge. dogman Dec 2014 #43
Selling cigs isn't an excuse for a cop to kill someone. The police want others to respect their Cha Dec 2014 #45
The statement is below Depaysement Dec 2014 #48
I'm with you. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #62
DISRESPECT! sheshe2 Dec 2014 #55
The NYC police deserve faint praise. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #59
I think you know the answer to that one. Rex Dec 2014 #110
What other profession expects such unwavering, self-abasing worship from Marr Dec 2014 #60
did you buddies at the Krispy Kream tell you that? rbrnmw Dec 2014 #69
Rand Bobcat Dec 2014 #91
IKR!? Rex Dec 2014 #108
They demonstrated at that funeral that they believe lovemydog Dec 2014 #42
Precisely lovemydog.. :( Cha Dec 2014 #46
Thanks Cha. lovemydog Dec 2014 #119
Yeah, I know.. not all. Just the ones who are perpetrating a lie. Cha Dec 2014 #120
and they wonder why they "get no respect" napkinz Dec 2014 #115
Precisely, napkinz. lovemydog Dec 2014 #118
I too hope the tensions will decrease but I wonder how the police will respond napkinz Dec 2014 #124
Reminds of that quote.. "The beatings will continue until moral improves".. :( Cha Dec 2014 #121
Sign me up for also being the root of this problem. lovemydog Dec 2014 #40
+1 an entire shit load. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #75
De Blasio did not turn his back to the NYPD, the NYPD turned their back to him, literally. nt SunSeeker Dec 2014 #47
Well said, SunSeeker. Cha Dec 2014 #49
I don't see how a "Dem" could feel your way. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #52
thanks for the laugh napkinz Dec 2014 #85
K & R SunSeeker Dec 2014 #44
The problem in NYC isn't their mayor JDDavis Dec 2014 #57
I'm with you. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #63
Yes, and I don't think we should ignore the racial components and JDDavis Dec 2014 #64
Is Giuliani on the Fox "News" payroll? I believe he might be. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #65
Yes, at least since 2008, or even back to Reagan and JDDavis Dec 2014 #66
I'm 62. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #67
We are of the same generation then, JDDavis Dec 2014 #68
You are correct, of course. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #76
me too, JD KMOD Dec 2014 #74
"Thousands of police who think killing a citizen for selling cigarettes illegally is fine police" napkinz Dec 2014 #137
Great post! Thanks, Chris Rock. n/t JDDavis Dec 2014 #139
thought you'd like it napkinz Dec 2014 #140
we do not have a lot of people like him a round at this time juxtaposed Dec 2014 #58
some one should grab the HP post b/c 99% of the comments are positive his way. and h/p is center juxtaposed Dec 2014 #61
Here's the link to Huffington Post's article and comments: JDDavis Dec 2014 #70
Mahalo JDDavis. Cha Dec 2014 #72
A sample.. what we've been saying around here.. All across the country and it goes on and on.. Cha Dec 2014 #73
Wow.. good to know, juxtaposed. thank you. Cha Dec 2014 #71
Absolutely nothing. NYPD just proved that suspicions about them & their behavior is true afterall. Tarheel_Dem Dec 2014 #77
Full stop, Tarheel. Cha Dec 2014 #81
The sad news is that their ignorance is on full display for the whole world to see. How embarrasing Tarheel_Dem Dec 2014 #138
I read his statement. Nothing there to criticize. It was thoughtful. dawg Dec 2014 #89
Kick! sheshe2 Dec 2014 #90
Hell yes..... daleanime Dec 2014 #93
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2014 #94
Why do you think he is not a good man? NutmegYankee Dec 2014 #98
I alerted shortly after that was posted and the jury voted 6-1 to leave it. smokey nj Dec 2014 #116
Jury got it wrong.. thanks smokey. Cha Dec 2014 #134
The rightwing is never happy gwheezie Dec 2014 #95
Agreed+ stage left Dec 2014 #114
Jon Stewart quote ... napkinz Dec 2014 #133
I hope he is embolden by their action Hutzpa Dec 2014 #125
the NYPD sure feels emboldened as illustrated by their disgraceful rhetoric and latest antics napkinz Dec 2014 #136
This message was self-deleted by its author Hutzpa Dec 2014 #126
Yes Denis 11 Dec 2014 #128

spanone

(135,637 posts)
1. amen....
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 10:17 PM
Dec 2014

k&r...

what mayor deBlasio said about eric garner's homicide had NOTHING to do with

a deranged man killing two police officers.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
80. the problem is there is an anti-Mayor de Blasio campaign; their crowd is out in full force
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 05:23 AM
Dec 2014

And it's gone unanswered ... and that has to change.

Where is our campaign to show we have the Mayor's back! It has to start now!

Cha

(295,929 posts)
4. Excellent thoughts, napkinz.. this needs to be out there Front and Center.
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 10:22 PM
Dec 2014

Thank you, Mahalo, Muchas Gracias, etc etc!

Beautiful photo of Mayor de Blasio and his son

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
101. the pic in my OP brings to mind this cartoon (a fact of life these officers don't understand)
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 02:41 PM
Dec 2014

shenmue

(38,503 posts)
5. Mayor DeBlasio seems to be pretty cool
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 10:31 PM
Dec 2014

I like him. I grew up in New York and I would like to move back someday. Hopefully while he's still in office.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
6. Remembered and stored. Blamed for the death of two cops, because he has a black son.
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 10:35 PM
Dec 2014

The racist culture in PDs needs to be wiped out ASAP.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
102. I'm still enraged over the death of Martin. Justice weeps in 2014.
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 02:45 PM
Dec 2014

People expect others to 'get over it'...nope, not going to happen. Not on my watch.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
104. and the police and the right-wing are EXPLOITING the tragic murders of the two NYPD officers to
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 02:52 PM
Dec 2014

try to SILENCE/QUELL the "Black Lives Matter" movement in this country.

The demonstrations MUST go on.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
109. "get bigger and louder" ... as they should
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 03:00 PM
Dec 2014

the question is, how will the police RESPOND to bigger and louder?

madokie

(51,076 posts)
13. So far all they've done is show how petty they are
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 10:50 PM
Dec 2014

not to mention insubordinate
the mayor won by a real big margin. Most new yorkers voted for him and I'd say most of them still like him just fine, cops be damned

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
9. Remember that Rudy's people were pissed that Joe Lhota didn't win.
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 10:45 PM
Dec 2014

They thought they were coming back into power but they believe by turning de Blasio into Dinkins they can get back into city hall. And the NY Post, NYPD, PBA, FOXNEWS, and others will do what they have to to tear Bill down.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
14. There has been no polling on de Blasio but he likely took a hit, but i doubt it will last.
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 10:50 PM
Dec 2014

Bloomberg went down to 24 percent approval in his first term and won in a landslide.

de Blasio knows how to fight back so he will when the funerals are over but he will try to make peace first.

Cha

(295,929 posts)
20. This.. >>>>>>>..
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 10:54 PM
Dec 2014

"de Blasio knows how to fight back so he will when the funerals are over but he will try to make peace first."

Mahalo hrmjustin

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
12. I think he can handle
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 10:48 PM
Dec 2014

the heat (pun intended).

He is the perfect person to be mayor at this time.

But, it won't be easy for him. I hope Bratton works with him.

Cha

(295,929 posts)
15. It's 'Protect and Serve', NYPD, not 'Kill and Subvert'
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 10:50 PM
Dec 2014
TheObamaDiary.com @TheObamaDiary
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First they kill Eric Garner, now they want a democratically elected mayor ousted.

It's 'Protect and Serve', NYPD, not 'Kill and Subvert'.

3:59 PM - 27 Dec 2014 51 Retweets 30 favorites

http://theobamadiary.com/2014/12/27/2014-hopefruits-most-memorable-moments/

Capt.Rocky300

(1,005 posts)
17. For the benefit of us out on the left coast........
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 10:52 PM
Dec 2014

could you folks in NYC tell us how the local citizenry feels about all this and particularly the police turning their backs on the mayor. Thanks.

sheshe2

(83,355 posts)
19. Some days you can only cry for the stupid in people napkinz.
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 10:53 PM
Dec 2014


Love that picture, dad hugs his sweet son.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
107. the picture of the mayor and his son SO reminds me of this cartoon (from when Trayvon Martin died)
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 02:56 PM
Dec 2014


vankuria

(901 posts)
122. And no respect for the deceased
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 07:12 PM
Dec 2014

and his family. How dare they deflect attention from funeral services and make this about them? Whatever arguments they have with the mayor, they showed extremely poor judgment to use the funeral services to make a political statement. Shame on them!

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
129. and shame on those supporting their deplorable behavior
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 10:34 PM
Dec 2014

those on the right backing these antics should be condemned as well

FailureToCommunicate

(13,989 posts)
25. I've heard this has as much to do with $$ (bitter contract talks Mayor de Blasio inherited) as
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 11:34 PM
Dec 2014

with racism and 1st amendment protest rights.

Anyone know about that as a reason for the cops to turn their backs?

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
26. The NYPD has a lot to apologize for though
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 11:42 PM
Dec 2014

We can start with their murderous ways and work our way down to the complete lack of respect for the communities they police even though it is all part of the same issue.

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
28. Wow.
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 12:05 AM
Dec 2014

The guys with the guns need our sympathy? My 1'st run in with a cop convinced me 100% they are out of control ego maniacs. The bullies in school, now have a legitimate career path. I'm not saying there are all like that because there have been a couple of cool ones, but these shit heads make it bad for the rest of them.

mopinko

(69,809 posts)
111. learned at my daddy's knee.
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 03:06 PM
Dec 2014

older sister had a bf that dad couldnt stand. she eventually met someone else. he went on to become a cop. this was 50 years ago.
dad said- he just wanted that gun. and to push people around.
thought that way about cops ever since. have yet to have an experience to the contrary. and that includes many times when my white privilege, and back in the day my girlish good looks, gave me a free pass.

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
112. Your dad
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 03:25 PM
Dec 2014

is a very smart man and sounds like a great dad. I hope I can be like that for my little girl.

mopinko

(69,809 posts)
113. he passed long ago. i am old.
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 03:30 PM
Dec 2014

he was a good many in many ways, but had the irish disease.
it took my almost 60 years to really appreciate him, and what he did give me.
i hope my kids get that old.

i am sure your little girl will be fine, tho. just remember to treat her mother as you would want her treated.
good luck.

Response to napkinz (Original post)

 

Indydem

(2,642 posts)
34. Ah ha ha ha
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 12:23 AM
Dec 2014

Man if I had a nickel.

So it's "right-wing" to support the police, the unionization of the police, and weeding out bad cops from all the good cops and not using broad brushes?

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
82. The cops hate deblasio because his family is black and he's seen as too sympathetic
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 06:22 AM
Dec 2014

towards "those" people.

NYC cops think every police shooting is justified--especially if the victim is black.

They view themselves as above the law itself.

They need to be taken down a few pegs.

mahina

(17,506 posts)
83. 2 recent hidden posts, most frequently posting in History of Feminism, and
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 08:12 AM
Dec 2014

has a sig line about the right to bear arms.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
97. Second link is where you call him "the man who destroyed social security."
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 01:51 PM
Dec 2014
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2030437

I would tell you to take what's left of your credibility and retreat, but too late for that.
 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
92. That poster is NOT a History of Feminism poster.
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 12:11 PM
Dec 2014

2 posts in the last 90 days. One of the awesome contributions?: "FYI 4Chan = Anonymous". Trust me, I don't think that poster was posting there in good faith.



But I'm more interested in your motive to tie this poster to a feminist group on DU: "most frequently posting in History of Feminism". Care to explain exactly why you would do this or why you would consider a frequent poster there an issue to begin with?




 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
103. Of course not, it is the only way they can
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 02:48 PM
Dec 2014

stir shit on this site and get away with it. It is almost comical watching 'control freaks' or whatever they are - implode over the last few months.

I think they are coming unraveled.

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
32. Lack of support? AYFKM!?
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 12:14 AM
Dec 2014

Your talking about cops with a union that guarantees pension, no jail time for officers, and relocation in worst case scenarios?

Shit I wish my union could do that when I kill somebody, wait a minute there is no union I can apply too.

WTF?

 

Indydem

(2,642 posts)
33. Did deBlasio give them that union?
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 12:21 AM
Dec 2014

No he did not. The police banded together and organized it.

I have no idea how in the world the DEMOCRATICunderground is now a place where unions get shit on and police officers are painted with the widest brush of corruption that is usually reserved for Wall Street.

DeBlasio is a screw up. His statement after the cops in the Garner killing weren't indicted is so mealy mouthed and parsed as to be disgusting. He could have condemned the actions of the officers and praised the NYPD as a whole and he failed to even try to be anything but condemning.

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
35. "No he did not. The police banded together and organized it."
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 12:25 AM
Dec 2014

Further proving my point.

I think you need to take a nap and some critical thinking classes.

 

Indydem

(2,642 posts)
38. So what is your point exactly?
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 12:32 AM
Dec 2014

That the "been the mayor for 5 minutes" mayor doesn't need to support the police because they have each other and their union?

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
41. That the "been the mayor for 5 minutes"
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 12:37 AM
Dec 2014

5 minutes is a small amount if time to destroy or shore up anything.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
56. The Mayor is the ultimate civilian authority over the police.
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 01:27 AM
Dec 2014

The office of Mayor is a reflection of the will of the electorate. What the police (employees) did in their demonstration was show their contempt for the will of the people, the democratically elected civil authority.

It's all right wing bullshit anyway. The police know full well the Mayor's words didn't cause a fucking problem. They are just being led around by the nose by the massively powerful right wing forces that exist in this nation. Someday these same police will be very sorry for contributing to this bullshit. I hope they remember back to what the nation used to be like before the Fascists took over.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
78. DeBlasio is not a badge sniffer who thinks it's okay for cops to kill black men willy nilly.
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 04:44 AM
Dec 2014

This causes those rightwing authoritarian assholes to throw temper tantrums. Their apologists follow suit.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
79. Still mad that Joe Lhota didn't pull it out?
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 04:46 AM
Dec 2014

At least you've dropped the extreme left winger persona you had maintained, in favor of this copologism.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
53. What you appear to miss re: who gave them that union...
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 01:19 AM
Dec 2014

Many poor and honest and brave persons did this. They who labored, most coming here to build America, some forcibly brought here… many to their own demise… all for fair labor standards "gave" them that union. It's besides the point of their turning their backs on this mayor and demanding he step down.

Civil servants are not meant to be anything else, certainly what you have indicated in this instance.

Unions are not the issue here… It's the blatant disregard for how under law, THE law is to serve, not be act above the rule of order and disregard for the law.

DeBlasio didn't screw up. You just didn't dig what he had to say.

 

Indydem

(2,642 posts)
37. Read his statement after the Garner GJ
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 12:29 AM
Dec 2014

Find one word in the entire statement that praises the NYPD.

Find one word that isn't a blanket condemnation of thousands of police who had nothing to do with Garner's murder.

Find one word that takes responsibility for the fact it's deBlasio's policies that have cops out arresting people for selling "untaxed cigarettes."

Show me.

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
39. Doubling down.
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 12:34 AM
Dec 2014

Praises the NYPD!? Have you seen their union? You want praise on top of that!?

Let's see, the last time on national media that someone was caught selling "untaxed cigarettes." he was killed,....by the cops.

dogman

(6,073 posts)
43. Took the challenge.
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 12:42 AM
Dec 2014

I read the statement and fail to recognize anything you wrote in that statement. It called for recognition and resolution of a serious problem. The only implication of thousands of police is the obvious though unstated fact that they need to follow the advice given to the Ferguson protesters by the police. Be aware of and step away from those who would do wrong.

Cha

(295,929 posts)
45. Selling cigs isn't an excuse for a cop to kill someone. The police want others to respect their
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 12:48 AM
Dec 2014

authority but they act like prepubescent bullies at the funeral for Raphael Ramos and Wenjian Liu. Disrespecting them by politicizing their funeral. They show no respect but want everyone to bow down to them.

Mayor De Blasio told the truth.. the NYPD can't handle the truth.

UP Pastry Plate @UPPastryPlate
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By turning their backs to @BilldeBlasio the #NYPD is confirming everything we know to be true about that gang. #unbelievable
7:04 AM - 27 Dec 2014 70 Retweets 33 favorites

Depaysement

(1,835 posts)
48. The statement is below
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 12:55 AM
Dec 2014
http://www1.nyc.gov/office-of-the-mayor/news/540-14/statement-mayor-bill-de-blasio#/0

What part of it is incorrect?

The Garner case isn't about loose cigarettes. The statement doesn't praise the NYPD because it's about police reform, which is long overdue, better police-community relations, also long overdue, and peaceful protest in light of the Grand Jury decision. In part, it is designed to show empathy for the family and curb the urge for violence bubbling in some people. Not exactly a time to praise a police force that "trained" two police officers to kill an unarmed innocent man in the Pink Houses and another guy to use a discredited technique in restraining a suspect who may have committed a misdemeanor.

I take offense at your personal attack on the Mayor, a Progressive Democrat, one of us and one of the most pro-Union people in this town. It smacks of the kind of crass opportunism embodied by Patrick Lynch and his conservative, thin blue line brigade. It is hard to support a union brother when he's threatening you over the right to kill suspects of color. That's why many of us have mixed emotions about the police and their role in the community.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
62. I'm with you.
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 01:36 AM
Dec 2014

No one is more pro labor than me.

To rein in the injustice we must be allowed an indictment of officers that clearly appear to be guilty. You can't continue to ignore this shit. Look at the number of cases nation wide. This is ridiculous.

Are we gonna be a Fascist nation? Are we? Cops must be accountable.

sheshe2

(83,355 posts)
55. DISRESPECT!
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 01:25 AM
Dec 2014

From my post

Police publicly disrespecting the Mayor should be an eye opener to every American. It’s so disturbing. Imagine how they treat young black men and boys? Bullying the Mayor while the world watches? Young black men and boys don’t stand a chance on the streets. God help this country! Disrespecting the Mayor isn’t about honor to fallen officers, it’s about racist anger. Lets keep it real! Officers who turned their backs to the Mayor are ANGRY with him because they want to kill black people with impunity and the Mayor isn’t playing along.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026011283

So many are using blankets here. I keep hearing that. Bull effing s**t

You said?

Find one word that takes responsibility for the fact it's deBlasio's policies that have cops out arresting people for selling "untaxed cigarettes."
So now Mayor DeBlasio is a racist that calls for police to strangle black men for selling cigarettes?
'
WTF!

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
59. The NYC police deserve faint praise.
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 01:30 AM
Dec 2014

Either we have justice for all or we don't have real justice.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
110. I think you know the answer to that one.
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 03:01 PM
Dec 2014

We don't have (and haven't had for a long time now) real justice in America.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
60. What other profession expects such unwavering, self-abasing worship from
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 01:31 AM
Dec 2014

the public's representatives, even at moments when they've earned criticism? Bankers, maybe... but that's about it.

Bobcat

(246 posts)
91. Rand
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 11:45 AM
Dec 2014

Rand? Rand Paul? Is that you? How could the rest of us miss what you so brilliantly pointed out. It was the policies of Mayor deBlasio - the high taxes on cigarettes that caused the death of Mr. Garner! (sarcasm)

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
108. IKR!?
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 03:00 PM
Dec 2014

The desperation to defend authority at all costs sure makes some look foolish on a progressive site.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
42. They demonstrated at that funeral that they believe
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 12:42 AM
Dec 2014

they are above the law. Above the chain of command. Above protocol at funerals. And above humbly honoring someone's memory at a funeral.

Fuck them all.

Cha

(295,929 posts)
46. Precisely lovemydog.. :(
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 12:49 AM
Dec 2014
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By turning their backs to @BilldeBlasio the #NYPD is confirming everything we know to be true about that gang. #unbelievable
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lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
119. Thanks Cha.
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 07:05 PM
Dec 2014

I feel bad about what I said earlier, 'fuck them all.' I don't mean that. It was in a fit of anger. I pray for decreasing of tension. And for respect toward all in New York City. I hope you enjoy a great evening. Mahalo.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
115. and they wonder why they "get no respect"
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 03:47 PM
Dec 2014

as another member posted, "you have to earn respect; you can't enforce it"

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
118. Precisely, napkinz.
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 07:03 PM
Dec 2014

Respect is earned. I hope you enjoy a good evening. I hope these tensions will decrease. We're all brothers and sisters on this planet.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
124. I too hope the tensions will decrease but I wonder how the police will respond
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 08:03 PM
Dec 2014

when the demonstrations return. This movement is not going to be quelled. Voices for justice will not be silenced.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
40. Sign me up for also being the root of this problem.
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 12:37 AM
Dec 2014

The original poster is the root of this problem? Then I must be too.

I support the mayor of New York City. Those police were disrespectful toward the victim of the crime and toward the people who pay their salaries to protect and serve them. They should not throw pissant hissy fits at funerals. If I were the mayor I'd fire all their sorry asses and get police who can respect the public.

Lovemydog is also the root of this problem!

 

JDDavis

(725 posts)
57. The problem in NYC isn't their mayor
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 01:29 AM
Dec 2014

He didn't get away with murder, or come to the defense of someone who did.

Thousands of police who think killing a citizen for selling cigarettes illegally is fine police work, those people are a problem.

I'm waiting for police to speak up about that despicable murder...I'm not seeing many people on the police force doing that.

 

JDDavis

(725 posts)
64. Yes, and I don't think we should ignore the racial components and
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 01:51 AM
Dec 2014

and dynamics here.

As in Ferguson, and other locations, what seems to piss off police is their being confronted with that unbalanced element of police mistreatment of people from minorities.

We expect all our public servants to act like adults. Today, a large element of the NYPD didn't act like adults.

By contrast he mayor of NYC has always acted as a responsible and respectful adult with regard to these issues. His public remarks at the funeral today bear that out as well. Police, not so much.

Then you have Giuliani flame-baiting over race, and lying about what Obama has been saying since Ferguson, with free air time all Giuliani wants on Faux Noose, cheered on by the racist regulars which is all the Fear News station has to sell their viewers.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
65. Is Giuliani on the Fox "News" payroll? I believe he might be.
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 01:58 AM
Dec 2014

It's all about race. But not really. The racism is just a tool. A means to an end. A way to further the slow motion coop. Looks like things are ready to speed up. This looks like something right out of the Nazi playbook. Since the 2008 election Faux and the rest have been fanning the flames of racism.

 

JDDavis

(725 posts)
66. Yes, at least since 2008, or even back to Reagan and
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 02:04 AM
Dec 2014

"welfare queens in Cadillacs", your memory goes back that far, (perhaps you are younger than me).

Faux Noose has been fanning those flames for many years, at least to Obama's first campaign and Reverend Wright.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
67. I'm 62.
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 02:09 AM
Dec 2014

I remember all those Reagan assertions. The idiots sucked that right up. This population is so gullible. Reagan was the perfect president for their goals. An actor.

But the racist angle is being ramped up. This much is clear.

 

JDDavis

(725 posts)
68. We are of the same generation then,
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 02:16 AM
Dec 2014
But the racist angle is being ramped up


Well, we didn't have mobile phone video of a policeman strangling an unarmed black man to death back in Reagan's days, although, I'm pretty sure, there were murders of unarmed minority folks by police back then as well.

We didn't have Faux Noose back then in Reagan's days either, or Rudy, or all the other Republican race-baiters on TV 24/7/365
 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
74. me too, JD
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 03:27 AM
Dec 2014

very few have spoke up.

The display today, where they turned their backs on the mayor, was distressing.

Opening admitting that they just don't get it, and just don't care.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
137. "Thousands of police who think killing a citizen for selling cigarettes illegally is fine police"
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 01:11 PM
Dec 2014
 

juxtaposed

(2,778 posts)
61. some one should grab the HP post b/c 99% of the comments are positive his way. and h/p is center
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 01:34 AM
Dec 2014

right if not a little more right.... But NYPD is getting the shit kick out of them on Huffington.....

Cha

(295,929 posts)
73. A sample.. what we've been saying around here.. All across the country and it goes on and on..
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 03:16 AM
Dec 2014

Shane Shepherd · Top Commenter

This kind of school yard pettiness just makes me agree with the Mayor even more that certain reforms and better community policing are badly needed in the NYPD

Danny Clampet · Top Commenter · University of Kentucky

Exactly! Those who demonstrated at the funeral are bullies who do not respect the mayor, the public or their fallen comrade and his family. They feel they are above all civilians, those in authority and those they supposedly serve.

Anne Arthur · Top Commenter · Portland, Oregon

I agree. They want respect, but too many act like immature children. This is not the way to instill public trust or respect into their judgments or behaviors. If they want respect, the good officers are going to have to 'out' the problematic officers. And the union needs to stop protecting the officers that hurt the organization as a whole.

This is really heartening! For sanity's sake. The NYPD wanted the Protestors to stop out of respect for Officers Ramos and Liu But, they cannot bring themselves to show the same respect they ask of others. Hypocrite thy name is NYPD.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,211 posts)
138. The sad news is that their ignorance is on full display for the whole world to see. How embarrasing
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 01:53 PM
Dec 2014

for all of us.

dawg

(10,610 posts)
89. I read his statement. Nothing there to criticize. It was thoughtful.
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 11:09 AM
Dec 2014

People are saying that he "failed" to say good things about the NYPD.

What, we've got to kiss their asses every time they are mentioned? IMHO, that sense of entitlement is a big part of the problem.

Response to napkinz (Original post)

smokey nj

(43,853 posts)
116. I alerted shortly after that was posted and the jury voted 6-1 to leave it.
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 04:43 PM
Dec 2014

Looks like my suspicion was correct and the jury was horribly wrong.

On Sun Dec 28, 2014, 08:38 AM you sent an alert on the following post:

Define 'good man'
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6013426

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

YOUR COMMENTS

I suspect this person is a troll and should be escorted from the premises.

JURY RESULTS

A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Sun Dec 28, 2014, 08:52 AM, and voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT ALONE.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Another badge-sniffer, drive-by shithead. To obscurity with it.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: You may suspect but you don't know. Nothing worthy of a hide in this post.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I'm a juror, not a troll-hunter.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The alerter's suspicion is probably correct, but this post by itself doesn't do it.

Thank you.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
95. The rightwing is never happy
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 12:46 PM
Dec 2014

They're always whining that if only black folks knew how to act the police wouldn't have to kill them. So deblasio tells his son how to act around the police and they're mad at that. What do they want from black folks?

stage left

(2,934 posts)
114. Agreed+
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 03:32 PM
Dec 2014

He has nothing to apologize for. Neither do protestors. Advocating police accountability is not advocating the murder of police.

Hutzpa

(11,461 posts)
125. I hope he is embolden by their action
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 08:08 PM
Dec 2014

and pursue the most vigorous change that the NYPD have ever seen.

#westandwithmayorblasio

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
136. the NYPD sure feels emboldened as illustrated by their disgraceful rhetoric and latest antics
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 11:43 AM
Dec 2014

... and they DESPISE any talk of reform

Change MUST come. These officers are out of control.

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