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Seeking Serenity

(2,840 posts)
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 09:32 PM Aug 2013

On military action in Syria

IF, and it's a big IF, the United States decides to engage in military action in Syria, whether it be a bombing campaign to actual boots on the ground, must the President (should the President) get congressional authorization to do so?

I say, yes, he should. Congress should always have to authorize any use of military force.

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On military action in Syria (Original Post) Seeking Serenity Aug 2013 OP
You're right of course Isoldeblue Aug 2013 #1
It will be a cya rubberstamp event....imho. I am not happy at this snappyturtle Aug 2013 #2
I agree. Isoldeblue Aug 2013 #5
Yep, I hear you. If Assad would be dumb enough, like Saddam in snappyturtle Aug 2013 #7
I wish we could say Isoldeblue Aug 2013 #8
Hello, um..., Kitty Seeking Serenity Aug 2013 #10
I thought you called me, Katie :) Isoldeblue Aug 2013 #11
Legally, he has 60 days under the War Powers Act to notify and seek an authorization for use of leveymg Aug 2013 #3
You are correct JustAnotherGen Aug 2013 #4
Genocide opens up a can of worms that can implicate the Saudis and Qataris. Powers is unlikely to leveymg Aug 2013 #6
You are right JustAnotherGen Aug 2013 #9

Isoldeblue

(1,135 posts)
1. You're right of course
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 09:35 PM
Aug 2013

But I don't have faith is this particular congress for what will motivate them to go there. I think Obama will only go to help for humanitarian sake only. I hope.

Isoldeblue

(1,135 posts)
5. I agree.
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 09:47 PM
Aug 2013

It makes me sick at the possibility of another war. Especially with wacko Putin behind much of this.

snappyturtle

(14,656 posts)
7. Yep, I hear you. If Assad would be dumb enough, like Saddam in
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 09:55 PM
Aug 2013

the first Gulf War, to fire on Israel & Israel fires back...Katie bar the
door...we've got a bite bigger than we can chew. With Russia backing
Assad we might see what the Russian weapons can do.

Isoldeblue

(1,135 posts)
8. I wish we could say
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 10:00 PM
Aug 2013

it's not our problem. But then that would be thinking like a rethug.....

PS. My name's Kitty...

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
3. Legally, he has 60 days under the War Powers Act to notify and seek an authorization for use of
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 09:42 PM
Aug 2013

military force or, failing that, would have to withdraw US forces from the area of conflict.

JustAnotherGen

(31,780 posts)
4. You are correct
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 09:44 PM
Aug 2013

I can't stand Leonard Lance - but even though it's obvious he is agreement on getting us into a war before the UN inspectors are through (they are touring more tomorrow correct?) - he is asking the President to come to Congress for approval.

Unless I missed something - are we 100% certain it was Assad? Was it the rebels? Was it Assad making it look like the rebels?

People are suffering needlessly - but we need clarity as to why. Throwing random bombs at another country is not going to resolve this in a few hours.

And someone at the UN (Power) needs to say the word Genocide. Then it becomes a global issue which requires all members who have signed the Genocide Conventions to work together to find a solution.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
6. Genocide opens up a can of worms that can implicate the Saudis and Qataris. Powers is unlikely to
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 09:51 PM
Aug 2013

use the term, much less seriously attempt to invoke the CAT.

JustAnotherGen

(31,780 posts)
9. You are right
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 10:00 PM
Aug 2013

But last month she said we "missed the mark in Rwanda". It also makes her book obsolete. I was excited to have her in that position because to me - she picked up where Lemkin and Galbraith left off. Having heard her speak in regards to Sudan gave those of us who watched those human beings get ignored hope that we could stop their suffering - I personally expect better from her.

That's the only way I can support any military action - a global unified effort where for once - for once in the age of genocide the world does the right thing. 6 million, 5 million, 700,000 to a million . . .

Okay so if we cannot stop a man made human disaster - lets just do away with the UN. No country really respects it anyway.

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