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Warning, this is kind of disturbing. Almost surreal.
http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/national/us-cargo-plane-crash-in-afghanistan-kills-7
KABUL, AFGHANISTAN - A civilian cargo plane owned by an American company crashed at Bagram Air Field, north of the Afghan capital, soon after takeoff on Monday, killing all seven people aboard, the U.S.-led military coalition said.
The Taliban quickly claimed responsibility for downing the Boeing 747-400, but NATO said in a statement to The Associated Press that the Taliban "claims are false." The coalition says the cause of the crash was being investigated by emergency crews that rushed to the site, but there was no sign of insurgent activity in the area at the time.
tridim
(45,358 posts)Gravitycollapse
(8,155 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,586 posts)which has nothing to do with engines, although that seems to be a common misconception. It appeared to be climbing steeply, which might have meant that it was going too slowly - that means there's insufficient airflow across the wings to generate lift, so it simply stops flying. I noticed that it banked steeply at one point, which would have caused it to lose even more lift, and even though it leveled out just before crashing they could not have recovered at that point. I am only guessing that the usual practice at that airfield is to climb as high as possible to avoid possible enemy fire as soon as they can, but maybe the airplane was too heavy (or cargo loaded or slid aft) for such a steep climb. It's highly unlikely that all 4 engines on a 747 would fail at once; anyhow, that aircraft can climb on 2 or 3 and fly on only one. It is possible, though, that one engine failed (might have explained the sudden bank, although it seemed pretty extreme) and because of the steep pitch angle the plane couldn't maintain flying speed.
enlightenment
(8,830 posts)but doesn't it look like the nose is way too high? It looks like they stalled and had no time to recover.
Very sad for all involved.
Gravitycollapse
(8,155 posts)backscatter712
(26,355 posts)That plane seemed like it was trying to climb way too steeply, and a trained pilot would know better than to try to do what was in the video on purpose. Sounds like some cargo might have broken loose, slid to the back, and threw off the center of gravity.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)I'd hate to be the Loadmaster that signed for the cargo.
Somewhere there's a video of a Navy cargo plane catapulting off of a carrier and when the cat stroke begins, the entire load went to aft. As soon as the plane cleared the catapult the nose went straight up into the air.
Mika
(17,751 posts)A cargo plane went down after takeoff @ MIA a while back - same thing... the cargo wasn't fastened properly and shifted aft.
ProdigalJunkMail
(12,017 posts)I think.
sP
OnEdit : looks like control issues and overweight on the Charlotte crash
sarisataka
(18,483 posts)that was similar. IIRC the pilot pushed it too far and stalled out.
Maybe a pilot here can give a trained opinion
octothorpe
(962 posts)Amazing how calm the guy who was filming was. That's at least "holy shit" worthy. Shame about the loss of life .
Gravitycollapse
(8,155 posts)dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)that the Daily Mail had posted stills taken from a car dashcam. Didn't realise the video had been posted on Youtube. Seems to me to be a sick subject to post there.
ProdigalJunkMail
(12,017 posts)it looks like an extremely steep takeoff and then into a stall... no matter, that was awful.
sP
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)It looked almost motionless.
Surreal.