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Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 06:24 PM Apr 2013

Cargo plane in Afghanistan falls out of sky after take off (Video)

Warning, this is kind of disturbing. Almost surreal.

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http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/national/us-cargo-plane-crash-in-afghanistan-kills-7

KABUL, AFGHANISTAN - A civilian cargo plane owned by an American company crashed at Bagram Air Field, north of the Afghan capital, soon after takeoff on Monday, killing all seven people aboard, the U.S.-led military coalition said.

The Taliban quickly claimed responsibility for downing the Boeing 747-400, but NATO said in a statement to The Associated Press that the Taliban "claims are false." The coalition says the cause of the crash was being investigated by emergency crews that rushed to the site, but there was no sign of insurgent activity in the area at the time.
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Cargo plane in Afghanistan falls out of sky after take off (Video) (Original Post) Gravitycollapse Apr 2013 OP
I've had nightmares that look exactly like that. Yikes! tridim Apr 2013 #1
I just told my girlfriend the same thing. Absolutely like a nightmare. Gravitycollapse Apr 2013 #2
Wow. Looks like the engines just stopped working. JaneyVee Apr 2013 #3
No; looks like what happened is that the airplane stalled, The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2013 #10
Hard to tell from the angle and I'm not expert - enlightenment Apr 2013 #4
The nose was definitely way too high. Supposedly cargo broke loose and fell to the back. Gravitycollapse Apr 2013 #6
That seems like the most plausible explanation. backscatter712 Apr 2013 #13
That was my first impression the moment the plane came into the picture. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2013 #14
The Loadmaster was on board. Mika Apr 2013 #15
had a plane at Charlotte NC have something similar ProdigalJunkMail Apr 2013 #16
I saw a video of a B52 crash sarisataka Apr 2013 #8
That's scary how it just fell out of the sky. octothorpe Apr 2013 #5
Looks like it was a soldier in a Humvee. He's probably seen some shit. Gravitycollapse Apr 2013 #9
I noticed earlier dipsydoodle Apr 2013 #7
hard to tell from the angle but ProdigalJunkMail Apr 2013 #11
Low airspeed, high angle of attack, went into a stall and slipped sideways. NYC_SKP Apr 2013 #12
Looks like a load broke looseshifted to tail and right side on ascent put him in unrecoverable stall Drew Richards Apr 2013 #17
Glad I'm not flying for a bit. Whoah, that is something. uppityperson Apr 2013 #18

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,586 posts)
10. No; looks like what happened is that the airplane stalled,
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 06:39 PM
Apr 2013

which has nothing to do with engines, although that seems to be a common misconception. It appeared to be climbing steeply, which might have meant that it was going too slowly - that means there's insufficient airflow across the wings to generate lift, so it simply stops flying. I noticed that it banked steeply at one point, which would have caused it to lose even more lift, and even though it leveled out just before crashing they could not have recovered at that point. I am only guessing that the usual practice at that airfield is to climb as high as possible to avoid possible enemy fire as soon as they can, but maybe the airplane was too heavy (or cargo loaded or slid aft) for such a steep climb. It's highly unlikely that all 4 engines on a 747 would fail at once; anyhow, that aircraft can climb on 2 or 3 and fly on only one. It is possible, though, that one engine failed (might have explained the sudden bank, although it seemed pretty extreme) and because of the steep pitch angle the plane couldn't maintain flying speed.

enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
4. Hard to tell from the angle and I'm not expert -
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 06:35 PM
Apr 2013

but doesn't it look like the nose is way too high? It looks like they stalled and had no time to recover.

Very sad for all involved.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
13. That seems like the most plausible explanation.
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 06:46 PM
Apr 2013

That plane seemed like it was trying to climb way too steeply, and a trained pilot would know better than to try to do what was in the video on purpose. Sounds like some cargo might have broken loose, slid to the back, and threw off the center of gravity.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
14. That was my first impression the moment the plane came into the picture.
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 06:46 PM
Apr 2013

I'd hate to be the Loadmaster that signed for the cargo.

Somewhere there's a video of a Navy cargo plane catapulting off of a carrier and when the cat stroke begins, the entire load went to aft. As soon as the plane cleared the catapult the nose went straight up into the air.

 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
15. The Loadmaster was on board.
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 07:02 PM
Apr 2013

A cargo plane went down after takeoff @ MIA a while back - same thing... the cargo wasn't fastened properly and shifted aft.

ProdigalJunkMail

(12,017 posts)
16. had a plane at Charlotte NC have something similar
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 07:11 PM
Apr 2013

I think.

sP

OnEdit : looks like control issues and overweight on the Charlotte crash

sarisataka

(18,483 posts)
8. I saw a video of a B52 crash
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 06:38 PM
Apr 2013

that was similar. IIRC the pilot pushed it too far and stalled out.
Maybe a pilot here can give a trained opinion

octothorpe

(962 posts)
5. That's scary how it just fell out of the sky.
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 06:35 PM
Apr 2013

Amazing how calm the guy who was filming was. That's at least "holy shit" worthy. Shame about the loss of life .

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
7. I noticed earlier
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 06:37 PM
Apr 2013

that the Daily Mail had posted stills taken from a car dashcam. Didn't realise the video had been posted on Youtube. Seems to me to be a sick subject to post there.

ProdigalJunkMail

(12,017 posts)
11. hard to tell from the angle but
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 06:40 PM
Apr 2013

it looks like an extremely steep takeoff and then into a stall... no matter, that was awful.

sP

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
12. Low airspeed, high angle of attack, went into a stall and slipped sideways.
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 06:41 PM
Apr 2013

It looked almost motionless.

Surreal.

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