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SamKnause
(13,091 posts)As I see it, the people who support this strategy are one, or any number of combinations;
uninformed
misinformed
religious fanatics
Republicans
Tea Party
Libertarians
CEOs
corporations
banks
Fox viewers
Chamber of Commerce
Koch brothers
Wall Mart
pharmaceutical companies
private prisons
the wealthy and elite
The list is endless.
But don't get me started. I can't stand thinking about his hypocrisy.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)They wake up in a cold sweat at night from a nightmare that America thinks Reagan was wrong.
FSogol
(45,478 posts)n2doc
(47,953 posts)And those evil librul union teachers are overpaid anyway. We all know they have 3 month vacations from their jobs and gold plated pensions
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)made more money working construction in the summers than teaching in the school year (yet still came back to teach). Single women teachers worked here and there. Teacher couples usually scrambled to work when they could. A typical school day for teachers is too often thought to be the same as that of the kids. Usually teachers come in an hour earlier and leave an hour later than the students. Lesson planning and grading assigned work takes far more time at home than a plan period along with the before and after hours. I was one of the very fortunate women teachers at the time who was married to a professional outside of teaching. I taught because I wanted to do so, as did the male teachers who might have just kept doing construction work all year.
RVN VET
(492 posts)Just look to Washington for part of the answer. Then to the offices of pretty nearly every elected/selected politician -- Federal, State, Local -- in the Country. Our "leaders" seem to have a motto: "Feather my nest and I'll take care of you." We-the-people have no feathers in that game.
SharonAnn
(13,772 posts)1KansasDem
(251 posts)Who's asking teacher's to take a 20% pay cut?
momsrule
(100 posts)Teacher pay cuts are notorious here. Just ask my son who has served as a teacher 22years and earns less than 12 years ago. His top earnings were 46k then. Republican controlled states are down on unions and therefore public schools. My state is moving toward the voucher business which will allow the state to push privatization of education for the well connected individuals who would attend private schools anyway.
1KansasDem
(251 posts)pay cut in Indiana?
What kind of pay cut did they have to take?
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)to take a pay cut. It's done in a variety of ways. The most common is a wage freeze. Others include raises below the real inflation rate, increases in health insurance premiums and pension contributions without offsetting wage increases and finally, all of the above plus an actual wage cut. These things are becoming the new normal. Teachers and others spend less time bargaining over paltry wage increases than the amount of the net loss.
radical noodle
(8,000 posts)RIF the teachers. Increase class size. Teachers are re-hired as aides at minimum wage with no benefits other than medical insurance they have to pay for (like they can afford it on minimum wage). That's more than a 20% decrease in wages.
rpannier
(24,329 posts)they expect all public employees to take wage freezes and pay cuts.
These however are often the same people who see little problem with people losing their private pensions at places like Deere and United while the board uses those pensions to pay for the golden parachutes
nineteen50
(1,187 posts)private industry is drolling.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)Long answer Republicans
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)a sell out, or a chump.
libdude
(136 posts)Ohio has issues also with education and teacher pay. The current form of school funding by the state has been ruled unconstitutional by the Ohio Supreme Court on several different cases. This coupled with numerous state funding cuts along with increased unfunded State and Federal mandates has thrown the school districts to rely and seek more local funds through tax levies and income taxes for schools in order to meet the operational demands.
The recent State rollback of property valuations have only exacerbated the funding issue.
Now we come to the great recession and the decrease in property values further reducing tax revenues for schools. Also added the issue of job losses and reduction in incomes.
Now, the overreliance on property taxes has made continued compensation for teachers even more problematic.
Gov. Kasich' s response, in his biennium budget, request a small increase for more financially well off districts, leave the rest on their own as to finding other sources of funding. In addition, set aside more funding for private charter schools which further reduces funds for public education.
All I have detailed ultimately has an adverse effect on teacher compensation. President Obama's Race To The Top is really to the top of a hill that has been cut down.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)ReRe
(10,597 posts)barbtries
(28,787 posts)duh
raccoon
(31,110 posts)Heather MC
(8,084 posts)One day they will be a millionaire